what formations is good for Finesse Running?

jbmagic · 10-02-2005, 12:01 PM

what formations is good for Finesse Running?

what formations are bad for Finesse Running?

we know finesse running is good against aggressive run defense.

whats good against aggressive pass defense?

Warhammer · 10-02-2005, 03:50 PM

I would imagine that the finesse running plays are good against an aggressive pass D as well. If you have a big pass rush, the big three plays to catch them off balance is a draw, a screen, or play action.

I would assume the best formations for finesse running plays are the single back formations, but I could be wrong.

This actually brings up another issue, I think it would be great if Jim could put out a list of plays by formation. I tried to write them down, but it was a royal pain in the neck trying to figure out how to organize them all.

Chubby · 10-02-2005, 05:20 PM

finesse running? blech

Briggs · 10-03-2005, 04:35 AM

When I used to call my own plays I found that finesse plays worked excellently if used sparingly.

As mentioned above, Single Back formations/ 3 WR sets etc.. work the best (finesse plays include draws so will work against agg pass D). I also found that if my run game was suffering all other formations (standard/2TE) will work very well, I'm assuming this is against an aggressive run D as I was otherwise being stuffed, but don't expect anything much if they are playing read & react defense.

Note: I remember running tests when game planning and found that my average went up noticeably when I halved the finesse plays.

Dan

Warhammer · 10-03-2005, 08:22 AM

Yeah, don't use TOO many finesse runs.

jbmagic · 10-03-2005, 03:57 PM

what % do you guys usually set it for each fromation type?

thanks

Briggs · 10-03-2005, 04:28 PM

In my current career I'm using the recommendations as a guide and I've halved the recommended for I-Form, Strong, Weak and Pro figures, but left the others as they were pretty low to start with.

CraigSca · 10-04-2005, 10:30 PM

Aren't you supposed to change your formation setting based on what your quarterback knows?

Briggs · 10-05-2005, 02:59 AM

It ignores any settings your QB doesn't know, but ideally yes.

10-02-2005, 05:20 PM	#3
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	finesse running? blech __________________ 2010 & 2017 IHOF WORLD CHAMPS! Q - When will the slander against Dean Houston abate? A - Never :) Syracuse Mohawks - IHOF Joe Teeters - 2005 IHOF MVP 153 Tackles & 28.5 Sacks! "Rowdy" Roddy Piper

10-03-2005, 03:57 PM	#6
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	what % do you guys usually set it for each fromation type? thanks Last edited by jbmagic : 10-03-2005 at 03:59 PM.

10-04-2005, 10:30 PM	#8
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Delaware	Aren't you supposed to change your formation setting based on what your quarterback knows? __________________ Matthew 10:32-33

10-02-2005, 03:50 PM	#2
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis, TN	I would imagine that the finesse running plays are good against an aggressive pass D as well. If you have a big pass rush, the big three plays to catch them off balance is a draw, a screen, or play action. I would assume the best formations for finesse running plays are the single back formations, but I could be wrong. This actually brings up another issue, I think it would be great if Jim could put out a list of plays by formation. I tried to write them down, but it was a royal pain in the neck trying to figure out how to organize them all.

10-03-2005, 04:35 AM	#4
Briggs n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cardiff, Wales.	When I used to call my own plays I found that finesse plays worked excellently if used sparingly. As mentioned above, Single Back formations/ 3 WR sets etc.. work the best (finesse plays include draws so will work against agg pass D). I also found that if my run game was suffering all other formations (standard/2TE) will work very well, I'm assuming this is against an aggressive run D as I was otherwise being stuffed, but don't expect anything much if they are playing read & react defense. Note: I remember running tests when game planning and found that my average went up noticeably when I halved the finesse plays. Dan

10-03-2005, 08:22 AM	#5
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis, TN	Yeah, don't use TOO many finesse runs.

10-03-2005, 04:28 PM	#7
Briggs n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cardiff, Wales.	In my current career I'm using the recommendations as a guide and I've halved the recommended for I-Form, Strong, Weak and Pro figures, but left the others as they were pretty low to start with.

10-05-2005, 02:59 AM	#9
Briggs n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cardiff, Wales.	It ignores any settings your QB doesn't know, but ideally yes.

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