Will you be upset if... (FOF related)

maximus · 09-26-2005, 02:34 AM

(Assuming Jim is releasing anything at all. Also assuming that he is releasing a football game)

Will you be upset if Jim releases FOF2K(5 or 6) over TCY2? I see a LOT of people are pulling for TCY2. I notice this in a lot of different threads, ect. Personally, I hope it is a pro football sim. Although I like college football I would prefer pro football because in TCY I just sim all my games/seasons and let the AI do the handling/recruiting. I do this to get the rookies I want for FOF2K4.

I used to recruit, ect in TCY but I found that it was very time consuming. So now I just sim the seasons. I do, however, keep a database in access and track player stats outside of the game for TCY.

FBPro · 09-26-2005, 03:00 AM

Not I.

Blade6119 · 09-26-2005, 03:17 AM

I played TCY for the recruiting..i loved it...i stopped buying FOF after 2001, but would buy TCY2 in a heartbeat...

Izulde · 09-26-2005, 03:17 AM

Upset? No. But FOF 2K4 is still extremely solid and fun to play. TCY, on the other hand, has been showing its age for a while now. So I think TCY 2 would be a better idea.

Peregrine · 09-26-2005, 03:19 AM

I am definitely hoping it will be TCY2. I mean, FOF 2K4 is rock-solid and how much improvement can really be done to it? TCY needs a lot of help though.

Darkiller · 09-26-2005, 05:09 AM

I am more of a Pro Football fan but I still have a blast playing my solo careers on FOF2 and multiplayer careers on FOF2004 so I can wait....

I think I'd rather see a TCY2.

Yossarian · 09-26-2005, 05:46 AM

Not me. I don't have any personal interest in college football and I can't wait for the next FOF so...

Raiders Army · 09-26-2005, 05:53 AM

Why ask this question? There is certainly no game in the near future coming out, so why even think about it?

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Why ask this question? There is certainly no game in the near future coming out, so why even think about it?

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(Assuming Jim is releasing anything at all. Also assuming that he is releasing a football game)

Key word=Assuming

gottimd · 09-26-2005, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus

Key word=Assuming

You know what happens when you assume?

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

You know what happens when you assume?

don't go there gottimd. dont' go there..........I'm warning you.

Raiders Army · 09-26-2005, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus

Key word=Assuming

That's a huge assumption...as much as assuming that women don't have mood swings.

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

That's a huge assumption...as much as assuming that women don't have mood swings.

women have mood swings?

gottimd · 09-26-2005, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus

don't go there gottimd. dont' go there..........I'm warning you.

You make an ass......Oh I am going there......

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

You make an ass......Oh I am going there......

I will pee on you.....

Alf · 09-26-2005, 06:20 AM

....

That FOFC board has come to an excellent level of discussion.......

Why do I even open these threads ?

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

....

That FOFC board has come to an excellent level of discussion.......

Why do I even open these threads ?

What was wrong with my initial post Alf? I asked this question to see what people think. Big deal. Geez.

cthomer5000 · 09-26-2005, 06:26 AM

There's nothing wrong with the question, everyone just seems to be an asshole around here lately.

Personally I'll be fine with any Solecismic release. Having said that however I feel that TCY 2 is the logical prodcut. The game feels dated compared to FOF2004 now.

Now on a personal level I'm much more into FOF than TCY, so maybe I wouldn't mind another FOF release.

And as for other sports....I'd be willing to give anything a shot.

maximus · 09-26-2005, 06:30 AM

I agree that TCY needs to be updated (needs a new fresh release). I mean, no matter what I will buy it if it is TCY2 (again, assuming that Jim releases anything).

Joe · 09-26-2005, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus

What was wrong with my initial post Alf? I asked this question to see what people think. Big deal. Geez.

Yeah, at least it wasnt like this post

TroyF · 09-26-2005, 07:11 AM

I've stated this in another thread, I'd MUCH rather see the game be a new version of FOF. I think I'm in the minority though. I'll still buy TCY2 if that were the release.

Samdari · 09-26-2005, 07:16 AM

I would be, because the incremental updates in FOF2k6 would leave little reason for me to buy that game. After FOF4 was such a huge disappointment (I felt there was nothing to compel playing that over 2001) I would likely not have purchased FOF5 unless it had the addition of the multiplayer feature. I don't see that game evolving much - there is little in the way of features that would improve the single player game for me very much, and the engine is so well advanced that improvements there would be incremental.

I will be extremely disappointed if it is not a football product or college basketball. I would certainly not buy a baseball game (unless there was an IHOB).

As for this:

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Originally Posted by RaidersArmy

There is certainly no game in the near future coming out

I don't see how you can say this about Solecismic. To the neverending frustration of many, he does not announce games until they are very close to release. We could have a game as soon two weeks from today, or perhaps as late as two years.

panerd · 09-26-2005, 08:09 AM

I am hoping for TCY2 with multiplayer. I feel like my knowledge and enjoyment of FOF aren't enough to be in an online league, but if it were TCY I would join one in a heartbeat.

Critch · 09-26-2005, 08:14 AM

I'm hoping for something non-football. Don't have any real preferences, just something new instead of an update of one of the existing games.

Either that or a unified college/pro game where it's all ran in one universe.

wade moore · 09-26-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

I am hoping for TCY2 with multiplayer. I feel like my knowledge and enjoyment of FOF aren't enough to be in an online league, but if it were TCY I would join one in a heartbeat.

You'd be surprised how little knowledge it takes...

TRUST me...

Subby · 09-26-2005, 08:22 AM

I would actually like to see a new version of FOF with enhanced MP support.

Alf · 09-26-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

I would actually like to see a new version of FOF with enhanced MP support.

What kind of enhancements ?

Chubby · 09-26-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

What kind of enhancements ?

Check out FOF 6 Suggestions thread

Subby · 09-26-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

What kind of enhancements ?

- built-in FTP
- better html (player pages with ratings, etc.)
- ability to turn scouting and coaches and financials "off"
- one default gameplan button that sets a default for all offensive situations (instead of having to go into each situation screen and clicking default gameplan button)
- improved AI handling of depth charts and roster moves when teams add FA in gameday export
- ability to save - when you close the game now, you lose everything (in MP)
- CSV exporting capabilities for draft classes and free agency

cuervo72 · 09-26-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

- one default gameplan button that sets a default for all offensive situations (instead of having to go into each situation screen and clicking default gameplan button)

Actually, this one is in there.

Subby · 09-26-2005, 09:49 AM

Actually, I want something that sets the default for each situation, not a recommend once and then "set all screens to this" solution.

Better put - a "global" recommend button.

cuervo72 · 09-26-2005, 09:53 AM

Ah, misunderstood - you mean a global recommend...

Anthony · 09-26-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Actually, I want something that sets the default for each situation, not a recommend once and then "set all screens to this" solution.

Better put - a "global" recommend button.

that'd be handy. the way it is now - why would i want to hit recommend for goal line situation and transfer that gameplan as the default for 4th quarter when i'm ahead by a large margin situation?

Kodos · 09-26-2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

that'd be handy. the way it is now - why would i want to hit recommend for goal line situation and transfer that gameplan as the default for 4th quarter when i'm ahead by a large margin situation?

But when are YOU ever ahead by a large margin?

WrongWay · 09-26-2005, 11:17 AM

I wonder how many TCY2'ers in this thread will be buying Bowl Bound CF the first week it comes out?

Ben E Lou · 09-26-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WrongWay

I wonder how many TCY2'ers in this thread will be buying Bowl Bound CF the first week it comes out?

I'll be buying both the first moment that I'm at a computer after they are released. What's your point?

sovereignstar · 09-26-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WrongWay

I wonder how many TCY2'ers in this thread will be buying Bowl Bound CF the first week it comes out?

I'd buy TCY2 the moment it came out if it was released first. If BBCF was released first, I'd wait to get opinions on it before I ever purchased it. The catch is, I wouldn't buy TCY2 if I bought BBCF first and it was holding me down.

Noop · 09-26-2005, 11:49 AM

I will buy Bowl Bound if they release it on CD without e-license which I abore.

WrongWay · 09-26-2005, 11:52 AM

My point is this is exactly what happened in 2003 with TPF. TPF was getting all the headlines with its prerelease press and screen shots, then bamo Jim made his little announcement, that btw...FOF2004 will be released in 2 weeks. Thus, Stealing the thunder of TPF. And, I might add, causing me to hold of on purchasing TPF; Thank God, if Jim hadn't come along I would of been one of the many to get burned by TPF's early years.

So, If there is going to be a TCY2, Jim will at least have to make an announcement of TCY2 before BBCF is released. The market for text sims is extremly small and a mojor part of that seems to be college student on very fixed incomes.

Ben E Lou · 09-26-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WrongWay

The market for text sims is extremly small and a mojor part of that seems to be college student on very fixed incomes.

...which is why the largest segment of people on this message board fall in the 28-40 age range, right?

vex · 09-26-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

...which is why the largest segment of people on this message board fall in the 28-40 age range, right?

And we all know that this board is a large majority of his sales.

WrongWay · 09-26-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

...which is why the largest segment of people on this message board fall in the 28-40 age range, right?

Funny, I seem to read a lot about people's college schedules in MP leagues.

WrongWay · 09-26-2005, 12:06 PM

Has Jim ever announced a Failure? Maybe there was already a TCY2?

I am just curious as I have had a couple of my Advertising Campaigns go down in flames after spending over 4 months and countless dollars, simply because of bad testing.

Ben E Lou · 09-26-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

And we all know that this board is a large majority of his sales.

No, but I'd be willing to be that something like age distribution in a forum this size would be *very* similar to age distribution in the audience as a whole. Plus, my impression is that the OOTP market is a little older than the FOF market, meaning that perhaps the "text sim market" is actually a little older than FOFC.

Honolulu Blue · 09-26-2005, 12:24 PM

I don't care what, or when, Jim releases his next game. Solecismic has made good games so far, and would merit serious consideration if (1) the game is of interest to me, (2) initial reviews are good, and (3) if a variation of FOF or TCY, makes changes significant enough for me to purchase it.

Chas in Cinti · 09-26-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I will buy Bowl Bound if they release it on CD without e-license which I abhor.

Fixed.

Unless you meant e-license was a bore, but that's hard to believe with all the baby-sitting it usually requires.

-Chas

Samdari · 09-26-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I'd buy TCY2 the moment it came out if it was released first. If BBCF was released first, I'd wait to get opinions on it before I ever purchased it. The catch is, I wouldn't buy TCY2 if I bought BBCF first and it was holding me down.

I would normally say that I would buy both regardless, but both BBCF and any potential Solecismic release are going to have a tough time getting noticed if they are released after Civ4.

Anthony · 09-26-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

I would normally say that I would buy both regardless, but both BBCF and any potential Solecismic release are going to have a tough time getting noticed if they are released after Civ4.

right on - my interest in Civ 4 has surged as of late to the point where it's on my must-have list.

WrongWay · 09-26-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

right on - my interest in Civ 4 has surged as of late to the point where it's on my must-have list.

But, have you pre-ordered that nifty binder yet?

Anthony · 09-26-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WrongWay

But, have you pre-ordered that nifty binder yet?

no. i don't know what you're talking about actually.

09-26-2005, 03:00 AM	#2
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09-26-2005, 03:17 AM	#3
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I played TCY for the recruiting..i loved it...i stopped buying FOF after 2001, but would buy TCY2 in a heartbeat... __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

09-26-2005, 03:17 AM	#4
Izulde Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004	Upset? No. But FOF 2K4 is still extremely solid and fun to play. TCY, on the other hand, has been showing its age for a while now. So I think TCY 2 would be a better idea. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

09-26-2005, 03:19 AM	#5
Peregrine Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	I am definitely hoping it will be TCY2. I mean, FOF 2K4 is rock-solid and how much improvement can really be done to it? TCY needs a lot of help though. __________________ Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. --Sideshow Bob

09-26-2005, 05:09 AM	#6
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	I am more of a Pro Football fan but I still have a blast playing my solo careers on FOF2 and multiplayer careers on FOF2004 so I can wait.... I think I'd rather see a TCY2. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

09-26-2005, 05:46 AM	#7
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	Not me. I don't have any personal interest in college football and I can't wait for the next FOF so...

09-26-2005, 05:53 AM	#8
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Why ask this question? There is certainly no game in the near future coming out, so why even think about it?

09-26-2005, 06:20 AM	#16
Alf Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	.... That FOFC board has come to an excellent level of discussion....... Why do I even open these threads ? __________________ FOFL - GEFL - IHOF - FranceStats

09-26-2005, 06:30 AM	#19
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	I agree that TCY needs to be updated (needs a new fresh release). I mean, no matter what I will buy it if it is TCY2 (again, assuming that Jim releases anything).

09-26-2005, 07:11 AM	#21
TroyF Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000	I've stated this in another thread, I'd MUCH rather see the game be a new version of FOF. I think I'm in the minority though. I'll still buy TCY2 if that were the release. __________________ TAF1972 on XBOX LIVE http://pro-football-blog.com/

09-26-2005, 08:09 AM	#23
panerd Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I am hoping for TCY2 with multiplayer. I feel like my knowledge and enjoyment of FOF aren't enough to be in an online league, but if it were TCY I would join one in a heartbeat.

09-26-2005, 08:14 AM	#24
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I'm hoping for something non-football. Don't have any real preferences, just something new instead of an update of one of the existing games. Either that or a unified college/pro game where it's all ran in one universe.

09-26-2005, 08:22 AM	#26
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Shut up, rowech.	I would actually like to see a new version of FOF with enhanced MP support. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!!

09-26-2005, 09:49 AM	#31
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Shut up, rowech.	Actually, I want something that sets the default for each situation, not a recommend once and then "set all screens to this" solution. Better put - a "global" recommend button. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! Last edited by Subby : 09-26-2005 at 09:53 AM.

09-26-2005, 09:53 AM	#32
cuervo72 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ah, misunderstood - you mean a global recommend... __________________ Commish - FOFL FOFL - Bar Harbor Whitecaps FOBL - Las Vegas Lightning IHOF - Frederick Red Menace

09-26-2005, 11:17 AM	#35
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	I wonder how many TCY2'ers in this thread will be buying Bowl Bound CF the first week it comes out? Last edited by WrongWay : 09-26-2005 at 11:18 AM.

09-26-2005, 11:49 AM	#38
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I will buy Bowl Bound if they release it on CD without e-license which I abore. __________________ You cannot enjoy outstanding success in life without power, and you can never enjoy power without sufficient personality to influence other people to co-operate with you in the spirit of harmony ~ Napoleon Hill

09-26-2005, 11:52 AM	#39
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	My point is this is exactly what happened in 2003 with TPF. TPF was getting all the headlines with its prerelease press and screen shots, then bamo Jim made his little announcement, that btw...FOF2004 will be released in 2 weeks. Thus, Stealing the thunder of TPF. And, I might add, causing me to hold of on purchasing TPF; Thank God, if Jim hadn't come along I would of been one of the many to get burned by TPF's early years. So, If there is going to be a TCY2, Jim will at least have to make an announcement of TCY2 before BBCF is released. The market for text sims is extremly small and a mojor part of that seems to be college student on very fixed incomes.

09-26-2005, 12:06 PM	#43
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	Has Jim ever announced a Failure? Maybe there was already a TCY2? I am just curious as I have had a couple of my Advertising Campaigns go down in flames after spending over 4 months and countless dollars, simply because of bad testing.

09-26-2005, 12:24 PM	#45
Honolulu Blue Dynasty Boy Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Michigan	I don't care what, or when, Jim releases his next game. Solecismic has made good games so far, and would merit serious consideration if (1) the game is of interest to me, (2) initial reviews are good, and (3) if a variation of FOF or TCY, makes changes significant enough for me to purchase it.

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