I want a new game!

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 06:10 PM

This is probably the longest I've gone without getting a truly new game. It appears that OOTP6 was released on 4/16/04. Yeah, I bought Mogul this spring, but at this point, 5 months later, it is still pretty much a beta product with nice potential. Likewise, with OOTP6 and 6.5, I've spent more time testing than playing, and this was also the case with TPF and PureSim. Civ3 left much to be desired, as did RON and Rome: Total War. Some dreadful design decisions were made in Empire Earth 2, so I never even bothered to purchase it. I bought both FOF5 and FBCB in late 2003, and those are really the last two games that I've played more than tested. I don't think I've ever gone this long without something that was both new and good. It is time for a new game that keeps me playing again and again like BM (the original), Civ2, Empire Earth, FBCB, FOF2, FOF2K1, FOF5 and TCY all did in their day.

Honestly, at this point I'm not sure I even care what the next game is: BBCF, BBM07, CIV4, FBCB2, FOF6, OOTP7, TCY2, or whatever, just bring it on, and make it SOLID! I'm sure I'll get back into testing mode at some point, but for now, no more tweaking a myriad of settings and running trial after trial until I get a playable game. It doesn't need to be bug-free, but it needs to be playable without obvious major stats problems and/or imbalances. Arlie, Clay, Sid, Brian, Jim, Markus, or SOMEBODY, help a brutha out here!

For now, back to the Bear Bryant Challenge.

--Ben

Vince · 07-30-2005, 06:13 PM

Word.

A-Husker-4-Life · 07-30-2005, 06:14 PM

Great Post, you said everything I was thinking....

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 07-30-2005, 06:15 PM

This thread needs more groveling and begging.

Schmidty · 07-30-2005, 06:21 PM

Come on, join the dark side. Put on your robe and wizard hat and join the awesome game that is World of Warcraft.

(Yes, I know that my post is futile, but hey, I got wife to play. And she hates fantasy and games of all kinds, yet she been playing ever since and has had a 60th level since May

)

Galaril · 07-30-2005, 06:32 PM

SkyDog have you tried TPB 2005from Greydog Soft a Gary Gorski production? It is a great game. It should tide you over until Puresim 9.0 comes out at the end of August and hopeful after that Bowl Bound in September or so.

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

SkyDog have you tried TPB 2005from Greydog Soft a Gary Gorski production? It is a great game. It should tide you over until Puresim 9.0 comes out at the end of August and hopeful after that Bowl Bound in September or so.

I bought TPB. It just didn't do it for me, I think because of all the peculiarities of the NBA salary cap with its exceptions.

Young Drachma · 07-30-2005, 06:51 PM

I agree with SkyDog, though I got 6.5 and it's kept me occupied. And Wall Street Raider generally has enough updates to keep me going. Especially now that we have a working msg board for it.

But yeah.

Lathum · 07-30-2005, 06:52 PM

how about TCY 2?

SirFozzie · 07-30-2005, 06:52 PM

I guess this puts the kibosh on the "SD is testing Jim's new game" rumors, huh?

Rizon · 07-30-2005, 06:52 PM

Not sure how much you like these types of games, but I recently downloaded both (free):

The board game of Axis and Allies on your computer
hxxp://triplea.sourceforge.net/

Steel Panthers WWII Win compatable
hxxp://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo-2.htm

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I guess this puts the kibosh on the "SD is testing Jim's new game" rumors, huh?

I already explicitly stated that I haven't been beta testing anything in this post.

AlexB · 07-30-2005, 07:02 PM

I feel your pain - I still play FOF, but FM didn't have the usual long term appeal for me: I've just bought a cricket game (Brian Lara International Cricket for the PS2) which seems pretty good but has a number of obvious flaws/omissions and I think is going to prove to be too easy fairly quickly...

I was genuinely hoping we'd see FOF2006 with updated features, but looks like BLIC & internet poker will have to suffice until Civ IV...

PilotMan · 07-30-2005, 07:29 PM

Man SD, you need to give FM a go. It will upset the karmic balance of your life.

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Man SD, you need to give FM a go. It will upset the karmic balance of your life.

I tried a previous version. Bottom line: the games are meaningless, therefore making the results, stats, and everything else meaningless. Well done, but I wish they'd do a sports game.

Raiders Army · 07-30-2005, 07:38 PM

Give in to EA Sports. NCAA Football 2006 is awesome.

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Give in to EA Sports. NCAA Football 2006 is awesome.

I heard that stats are way off when simming games. Has that been corrected? That's an absolute must if I'm going to spend the money on a console system just for one game.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-30-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I heard that stats are way off when simming games. Has that been corrected? That's an absolute must if I'm going to spend the money on a console system just for one game.

No, it has not. The simulated stats are terrible.

You might like Supreme Ruler 2010. It is a very deep simulation game in which you can control economic, military, social, and diplomatic options for a "region."

PilotMan · 07-30-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I tried a previous version. Bottom line: the games are meaningless, therefore making the results, stats, and everything else meaningless. Well done, but I wish they'd do a sports game.

That's the problem. You haven't tried the most rescent version. I think that the games and strategy are more important now than any previous version.

I guess that EHM doesn't count as a sports game either huh?

Ben E Lou · 07-30-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan

That's the problem. You haven't tried the most rescent version.

I really gave it a seriuos attempt in the prior version. It was obviously well-down and all of that, but the bottom line is that it is about something that holds zero interest for me, therefore rendering the games, the strategies and the stats meaningless. I'm fairly certain that no amount of new features and tweaks can change that aspect.

Galaril · 07-30-2005, 09:54 PM

Here is an indie game I saw mentioned over at Bill's (from Gone gold night call fame) Dubious Quality Blog . It looks really cool .It's basically RISK with a lot of etra maps and stuff. They have maps for the Vietnam war, world war 1/2, Roman Empire etc. There actually 241 plugin maps so it will keep you going for along time and 11 diifernet AI opponents or multi player online.

Link:sillysoft/lux-risk clone

Cringer · 07-30-2005, 10:02 PM

I too am dying for a new game. FOF2004 is the last computer game I payed for I do believe, or maybe it was FBCB I guess.

The only PS2 games I have bought over that is GTA: San Andreas and Gran Turismo 4. Great games, but I do not get much PS2 time.

Me needs a new game soon.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 07-30-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I heard that stats are way off when simming games. Has that been corrected? That's an absolute must if I'm going to spend the money on a console system just for one game.

If you can get past every qb throwing for at least 40-50 tds per season then its a good game.

Galaril · 07-30-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

If you can get past every qb throwing for at least 40-50 tds per season then its a good game.

I had the game and couldn't past the easy long pass exploit as well as the 90 pancakes I was getting a game from my o-line. I am going to return my copy and opt not to get madden either.

PSUColonel · 07-30-2005, 11:22 PM

I just ordered FM 2005. Iknow a new one will come out in November, but I figured why not? I guess when all is said and done, it really is the most fun sports management game out there...and that from a man who really isn't in to Soccer at all. I had CM, but I' hearing it's worth the upgrade

Anthony · 07-31-2005, 02:17 AM

it was a tad hard for me to get into FM. i keep telling myself that even though i don't care about soccer that it's the best sports sim game in the market so that should count for something, but i guess like SD - i don't care about the sport itself so i always have a feeling of detachment towards my team.

since i don't know much about the sport other than what i've picked up from being interested in FM/CM, i have no idea what effects the tweaks i make to the gameplan have on the end result. i know the ins and outs of football and basketball, with baseball a close 3rd, so i know what constitutes realistic stats and what are flawed stats, i know how tweaking this or adjusting that *should* play out in the game. not so with soccer. great game though, i might move on to EHM though since i care more about hockey than i do about soccer (even though hocky isn't a top 3 sport of mine).

ice4277 · 07-31-2005, 08:02 AM

I'm still playing the crap out of FM, having a great time with my current career. I will probably pick up EHM at some point, likely when the big patch comes out. I got NCAA '06 but, just like the last couple years, haven't been able to get into it. I think I may be getting past the stage of enjoying console sports games in general. So I wouldn't mind to see any of those games on SD's list make an appearance soon, its been a while since I've really played and gotten into a football or baseball sim.

Peregrine · 07-31-2005, 08:10 AM

I have recently started playing FM, and do like it, it's got a lot of features and is very immersive. I can't get into it as much as FOF and TCY though, and it's not because I don't like the sport involved, it's just the pace of the game. I like very fast paced sims where I can crank through the seasons as fast as I want to, and FM is just not like that. It seems to take forever to play through a month, much less a whole year.

Samdari · 07-31-2005, 10:15 AM

Crusader Kings. Really. So many layers of depth its amazing.

Ben E Lou · 07-31-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

Crusader Kings. Really. So many layers of depth its amazing.

Tell me a little about it.

Mike D · 07-31-2005, 10:33 AM

Ah looking for video games during the summer time blues. An annual drought.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-31-2005, 10:37 AM

Since EHM 2005 has come out I have had neither the time nor interest in playing any other game. Well, that's not true. I did dabble in that "War of the Rings" game (needed to test out my new PC) and played some of KOTOR (to get my Star Wars fix and to remove the horrible taste of Ep III from my mouth). But other than that, it's all-EHM all the time for me. Again, just another reason to pity the poor bastards who don't like/get hockey. What hollow, empty lives y'all must live.

Samdari · 07-31-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Tell me a little about it.

Well, read Izulde's dynasty to give yourself a good flavor.

Basically it is a medieval empire builder. It's nominally in real time, but can be done turn based. It rarely feels rushed, unless you are in a massive war.

The game is played on a map of Europe divided into hundreds of counties. You start as either a Count (ruler of a county) Duke (can rule more counties, have counts as vassals) or King - (can have Dukes as vassals, rule many counties). You do some high level management and can influence the makeup of the army, and can improve the county. Just as important as building the economy to have a bigger army are the diplomatic and spy relations you have with other countries. Your character (always the leader of your dynasty) should get married, to have children who can grow up to be given land, married off (to strategically important people, of course). Of course, the assasinating the right noble can improve your position as well. You are trying to build your empire, by acquiring more counties, either ones you control directly, or ones that are vassals to you.

I just thought you might like it given your stated dislike of the tactical combat in M:TW, and decrying the empire building depth in same. This game is the polar opposite, with all kinds of depth in how to build an empire, but gives you no tactical control whatsoever. Combat feels more like risk, with army size being the determining factor, but die rolls can turn a close battle.

Anthony · 07-31-2005, 11:32 AM

this is why i prefer the Total War games. it's not about "i have 700 troops, the other army has 1,000 troops - therefor i'm going to lose this battle". it's about taking in several factors to see if it's worth fighting the war:

1. how many stars does my general have? (for those that don't know - the more decisive battles you win w/ your general, the more stars he gets, till he's a very decorated general who can will his army to victory, llike Maximus in "Gladiator")

2. how experienced in battle are my units (the more battles your units fight the more experience they get in warfare, so that eventually they're seasoned vets who don't run away when they get scared, you can develop troops w/ a "fight to the death" mentality

3. superior weapons (obviously if you have great weapons like war elephants, swords forged by a blacksmith and seige equipment and your foe is still fighting with archers and spears, odds are in your favor)

4. i probably would hesitate to attack an army if i had far less troops (i certainly don't want to risk losing my valuable general in a suicide mission), but if i'm getting attacked - letting me be the defending army and getting to place my troops in much more favorable positions (high up a hill so the other army has to waste energy getting to me; hiding in the forest to ambush, etc).

if you enjoy movies like Gladiator, Braveheart, LOTR, The Patriot, Troy, the opening scene of Gladiator, you'll love the Total War series. i love great battle scenes, i love watching scenes with massive armies. Total War really allows me to recreate that.

but yeah, the territory/empire building/diplomatic side to the game is lacking, but to be honest, before i got enough confidence in my tactical knowledge to fight my own battles i used to "auto-fight" and let the PC determine the winner of the battle so that i would just focus on empire building strategy. i've since researched plenty of battle tactics and tips, so i'm quite confident in myself - although i have yet to win a MP match.

jbmagic · 07-31-2005, 12:27 PM

A lot of people love Galactic Civilizations

http://www.galciv.com/

Galactic Civilizations is a space based strategy game in which you are in control of humanity's destiny.

As leader of United Earth, you must research new technologies, build an economy, create a powerful military force, all the while carefully balancing your political, diplomatic and trade skills. Compete against up to 35 alien civilizations for domination of the galaxy.

maximus · 07-31-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

That's an absolute must if I'm going to spend the money on a console system just for one game.

Don't tell me you are converting over to faggoty console joystick jockey games now....

Ben E Lou · 07-31-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus

Don't tell me you are converting over to faggoty console joystick jockey games now....

Did you actually READ what I was asking, or was this just another knee-jerk response?

maximus · 07-31-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Did you actually READ what I was asking, or was this just another knee-jerk response?

Read? I dont read posts...

Just a knee-jerker.

Ben E Lou · 08-01-2005, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

Ah looking for video games during the summer time blues. An annual drought.

It wouldn't bother me if something from the spring (or even last fall) had really grabbed me. The problem is that my best two games are from 2003.

Warhammer · 08-01-2005, 08:07 AM

If you like submarine sims, I'd go with Silent Hunter 3. But you need a lot of time for that one. Or you could always try NetHack.

PSUColonel · 08-01-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer

If you like submarine sims, I'd go with Silent Hunter 3. But you need a lot of time for that one. Or you could always try NetHack.

Dangerous Waters is also a good one Falcon4.0 Allied Force is also great. (Dynamic Campaign)

Anthony · 08-01-2005, 09:11 AM

i downloaded this mod for R:TW called "Rome:Total Realism". it's features are vastly improved AI armies and more accurate placement of factions on the map (among many other things, mind you).

uhhhh...it seems that the game is infinitely harder now. i thought i had got good at playing out the battles in the Total War series. nope, i guess the default AI was probably weak.

i got my ass handed to me. i decided to start off as the Romans again (even though another mod i downloaded greatly enhances the Total Realism mod allows you to start off as any faction you like), and the starting map has the Romans *at war* with the Gauls to the north and some Thracian faction of some sort to the south of Italy. i've only played out 2 battles, one i lost by a landslide cuz i don't have much experience fighting against hoplights (guys with ridiculously long spears); the other i won because i commanded a small army that i accidentally placed too far from the action to factor into the battle and the AI commanded the much larger army.

it's more of a challenge, i'll tell you. the Total Realism mod already enhances the AI of the other factions, so i might start over with a normal level difficulty (i went up to the 2nd highest difficulty). it's a lot of fun, i might start over as the Macedonians and try to bring the post-Alexander faction back to prominance.

highly recommended if you've put R:TW back on the shelf for a bit.

Abe Sargent · 08-01-2005, 10:15 AM

I absolutely agree that recent games have ben crap or really easy. With that in mind, I've recently been adding to my catalogue of games from the near past, and I have picked up a few older games thatI have really enjoyed.

I just finished Jagged Alliance 2 from 2000, I think. It's essentially the squad based tactical system from X-Com games overtop a Fallout 2 style RPG setup. I liked it a lot.

Some games, like SimCity4, you can just keep playing and playing and playing....

I am trying a new career in CK just a few days ago. Lots of fun!

I'm always up for an evening of Tropico. It's the one game I've owner that I can just pop in and play every few months. It only takes me one day to play a game, and I really like that.

If you've yet to play Sid Meier's Pirates or Tropico 2, then pick one up. You can get some enjoyment out of both. Neither will last you more than a couple of weeks of heavy playing, but both may be worth a discounted puirchase price.

I'm currently finding that Age of Wonders 2 is very difficult. I don't know if it will hold my interest long enough, but I am quite entranced by its difficulty and epic-feel.

I never much cared for GalCiv, to be honest.

Hope that this helps!

-Anxiety

Warhammer · 08-01-2005, 10:55 AM

Two that I started playing again recently are Close Combat (series) and Worms Armageddon. I forgot how much I love Worms!

flere-imsaho · 08-01-2005, 11:09 AM

Penalty Box O-Rama

Step 1: Pick a number between 1 and 100.

Step 2: Use Excel's random number generator to generate a random number between 1 and 100.

Step 3: You don't know how to use Excel's random number generator?

Step 4: Learn how to use Excel's random number generator.

Step 5: If Excel picks the number you picked, go to Step 9.

Step 6: Use Excel's random number generator to pick a number between 1 and Jeeber's current post count.

Step 7: Find the person (or persons) with the same post count as that number.

Step 8: Penalty Box them for a week.

Step 9: If, in Step 5, Excel picked the same number you did, Penalty Box yourself for a week.

Step 10: Repeat once a week until Ryan S takes over the board in a bloody coup or Maple Leafs posts the results from IWS #114, whichever comes first.

hukarez · 08-01-2005, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

You might like Supreme Ruler 2010. It is a very deep simulation game in which you can control economic, military, social, and diplomatic options for a "region."

I'll second this!

http://www.battlegoat.com/

Buccaneer · 08-07-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

Well, read Izulde's dynasty to give yourself a good flavor.

Basically it is a medieval empire builder. It's nominally in real time, but can be done turn based. It rarely feels rushed, unless you are in a massive war.

The game is played on a map of Europe divided into hundreds of counties. You start as either a Count (ruler of a county) Duke (can rule more counties, have counts as vassals) or King - (can have Dukes as vassals, rule many counties). You do some high level management and can influence the makeup of the army, and can improve the county. Just as important as building the economy to have a bigger army are the diplomatic and spy relations you have with other countries. Your character (always the leader of your dynasty) should get married, to have children who can grow up to be given land, married off (to strategically important people, of course). Of course, the assasinating the right noble can improve your position as well. You are trying to build your empire, by acquiring more counties, either ones you control directly, or ones that are vassals to you.

I just thought you might like it given your stated dislike of the tactical combat in M:TW, and decrying the empire building depth in same. This game is the polar opposite, with all kinds of depth in how to build an empire, but gives you no tactical control whatsoever. Combat feels more like risk, with army size being the determining factor, but die rolls can turn a close battle.

I finally got the summer time blues, burning after playing OOTP5 for 6 weeks. Don't want to do another text sim for a while and my old strategy favorites (Civ2, Imp2, Pharaoh, etc.) just don't interest me now. I've done a lot action gaming earlier this year but several other attempts at playing new games have failed.

This sounds interesting, I'm going to check it out if I can find web site.

Capital · 08-07-2005, 07:19 PM

I'm playing Pirates right now and enjoying it.

MizzouRah · 08-07-2005, 07:29 PM

I'd like to get into a different genre PC game right now. I'll have to check out some websites to see what's out there non-sports releated.

WrongWay · 08-07-2005, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

A lot of people love Galactic Civilizations

http://www.galciv.com/

Galactic Civilizations is a space based strategy game in which you are in control of humanity's destiny.

Anyone out there playing the Beta version of the sequal? If you preOrder galciv2 you get to download the beta version right now.

Also, Civ4 should be just around the corned. And, don't forget about The Movies.

07-30-2005, 06:13 PM	#2
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07-30-2005, 06:14 PM	#3
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07-30-2005, 06:21 PM	#5
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07-30-2005, 06:51 PM	#8
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I agree with SkyDog, though I got 6.5 and it's kept me occupied. And Wall Street Raider generally has enough updates to keep me going. Especially now that we have a working msg board for it. But yeah. __________________ CURRENT DYNASTY: NBA Players League \| WNBA SLOP: Commissioner FOOL: Colorado Rancheros FOBL: Semi-retired FOFC-FBCB: St. John's NCFA-FCS: Minnesota A&M Redhorse OOTP Mods: FOOL73 Homekit \| Arena Baseball \| 200+ History Quickstart \| OOTP Market Size Calculator FBCB/FBPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 07-30-2005 at 06:51 PM.

07-30-2005, 06:52 PM	#10
SirFozzie General Manager Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Franklin, MA, 02038	I guess this puts the kibosh on the "SD is testing Jim's new game" rumors, huh? __________________ Hey, Foz now has a video game blog. Go and Read It.. NOW. http://8bitmindin64bitworld.blogspot.com/

07-30-2005, 06:15 PM	#4
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	This thread needs more groveling and begging.

07-30-2005, 06:32 PM	#6
Galaril Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Castle Rock,Co	SkyDog have you tried TPB 2005from Greydog Soft a Gary Gorski production? It is a great game. It should tide you over until Puresim 9.0 comes out at the end of August and hopeful after that Bowl Bound in September or so.

07-30-2005, 06:52 PM	#9
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Madeira, Oh	how about TCY 2?

07-30-2005, 07:02 PM	#13
AlexB College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	I feel your pain - I still play FOF, but FM didn't have the usual long term appeal for me: I've just bought a cricket game (Brian Lara International Cricket for the PS2) which seems pretty good but has a number of obvious flaws/omissions and I think is going to prove to be too easy fairly quickly... I was genuinely hoping we'd see FOF2006 with updated features, but looks like BLIC & internet poker will have to suffice until Civ IV... __________________ A song is a beautiful lie

07-30-2005, 07:29 PM	#14
PilotMan Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Man SD, you need to give FM a go. It will upset the karmic balance of your life. __________________ Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Need an FOFC Alternative? Try the forum over in the FOFC Steam group. Look under discussions for the FOFC Steam Edition sub-forum. You have to be a member to see it and it should be the default forum for the group. Direct link to the group above or Google FOFConSteam.

07-30-2005, 07:38 PM	#16
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Give in to EA Sports. NCAA Football 2006 is awesome.

07-30-2005, 09:54 PM	#21
Galaril Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Castle Rock,Co	Here is an indie game I saw mentioned over at Bill's (from Gone gold night call fame) Dubious Quality Blog . It looks really cool .It's basically RISK with a lot of etra maps and stuff. They have maps for the Vietnam war, world war 1/2, Roman Empire etc. There actually 241 plugin maps so it will keep you going for along time and 11 diifernet AI opponents or multi player online. Link:sillysoft/lux-risk clone Last edited by Galaril : 07-30-2005 at 09:55 PM.

07-30-2005, 10:02 PM	#22
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I too am dying for a new game. FOF2004 is the last computer game I payed for I do believe, or maybe it was FBCB I guess. The only PS2 games I have bought over that is GTA: San Andreas and Gran Turismo 4. Great games, but I do not get much PS2 time. Me needs a new game soon. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

07-30-2005, 11:22 PM	#25
PSUColonel Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wayne, PA	I just ordered FM 2005. Iknow a new one will come out in November, but I figured why not? I guess when all is said and done, it really is the most fun sports management game out there...and that from a man who really isn't in to Soccer at all. I had CM, but I' hearing it's worth the upgrade

07-31-2005, 02:17 AM	#26
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	it was a tad hard for me to get into FM. i keep telling myself that even though i don't care about soccer that it's the best sports sim game in the market so that should count for something, but i guess like SD - i don't care about the sport itself so i always have a feeling of detachment towards my team. since i don't know much about the sport other than what i've picked up from being interested in FM/CM, i have no idea what effects the tweaks i make to the gameplan have on the end result. i know the ins and outs of football and basketball, with baseball a close 3rd, so i know what constitutes realistic stats and what are flawed stats, i know how tweaking this or adjusting that should play out in the game. not so with soccer. great game though, i might move on to EHM though since i care more about hockey than i do about soccer (even though hocky isn't a top 3 sport of mine).

07-31-2005, 08:02 AM	#27
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	I'm still playing the crap out of FM, having a great time with my current career. I will probably pick up EHM at some point, likely when the big patch comes out. I got NCAA '06 but, just like the last couple years, haven't been able to get into it. I think I may be getting past the stage of enjoying console sports games in general. So I wouldn't mind to see any of those games on SD's list make an appearance soon, its been a while since I've really played and gotten into a football or baseball sim.

07-31-2005, 08:10 AM	#28
Peregrine Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	I have recently started playing FM, and do like it, it's got a lot of features and is very immersive. I can't get into it as much as FOF and TCY though, and it's not because I don't like the sport involved, it's just the pace of the game. I like very fast paced sims where I can crank through the seasons as fast as I want to, and FM is just not like that. It seems to take forever to play through a month, much less a whole year.

07-31-2005, 10:15 AM	#29
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	Crusader Kings. Really. So many layers of depth its amazing. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

07-31-2005, 10:33 AM	#31
Mike D "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Ah looking for video games during the summer time blues. An annual drought. Last edited by Mike D : 07-31-2005 at 10:34 AM.

07-31-2005, 10:37 AM	#32
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Since EHM 2005 has come out I have had neither the time nor interest in playing any other game. Well, that's not true. I did dabble in that "War of the Rings" game (needed to test out my new PC) and played some of KOTOR (to get my Star Wars fix and to remove the horrible taste of Ep III from my mouth). But other than that, it's all-EHM all the time for me. Again, just another reason to pity the poor bastards who don't like/get hockey. What hollow, empty lives y'all must live. __________________ *Steve Yzerman: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons). Last edited by Honolulu_Blue : 07-31-2005 at 10:37 AM.*

07-31-2005, 11:32 AM	#34
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	this is why i prefer the Total War games. it's not about "i have 700 troops, the other army has 1,000 troops - therefor i'm going to lose this battle". it's about taking in several factors to see if it's worth fighting the war: 1. how many stars does my general have? (for those that don't know - the more decisive battles you win w/ your general, the more stars he gets, till he's a very decorated general who can will his army to victory, llike Maximus in "Gladiator") 2. how experienced in battle are my units (the more battles your units fight the more experience they get in warfare, so that eventually they're seasoned vets who don't run away when they get scared, you can develop troops w/ a "fight to the death" mentality 3. superior weapons (obviously if you have great weapons like war elephants, swords forged by a blacksmith and seige equipment and your foe is still fighting with archers and spears, odds are in your favor) 4. i probably would hesitate to attack an army if i had far less troops (i certainly don't want to risk losing my valuable general in a suicide mission), but if i'm getting attacked - letting me be the defending army and getting to place my troops in much more favorable positions (high up a hill so the other army has to waste energy getting to me; hiding in the forest to ambush, etc). if you enjoy movies like Gladiator, Braveheart, LOTR, The Patriot, Troy, the opening scene of Gladiator, you'll love the Total War series. i love great battle scenes, i love watching scenes with massive armies. Total War really allows me to recreate that. but yeah, the territory/empire building/diplomatic side to the game is lacking, but to be honest, before i got enough confidence in my tactical knowledge to fight my own battles i used to "auto-fight" and let the PC determine the winner of the battle so that i would just focus on empire building strategy. i've since researched plenty of battle tactics and tips, so i'm quite confident in myself - although i have yet to win a MP match.

07-31-2005, 12:27 PM	#35
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	A lot of people love Galactic Civilizations http://www.galciv.com/ Galactic Civilizations is a space based strategy game in which you are in control of humanity's destiny. As leader of United Earth, you must research new technologies, build an economy, create a powerful military force, all the while carefully balancing your political, diplomatic and trade skills. Compete against up to 35 alien civilizations for domination of the galaxy.

08-01-2005, 08:07 AM	#40
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	If you like submarine sims, I'd go with Silent Hunter 3. But you need a lot of time for that one. Or you could always try NetHack. Last edited by Warhammer : 08-01-2005 at 08:07 AM. Reason: Added Nethack

08-01-2005, 09:11 AM	#42
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i downloaded this mod for R:TW called "Rome:Total Realism". it's features are vastly improved AI armies and more accurate placement of factions on the map (among many other things, mind you). uhhhh...it seems that the game is infinitely harder now. i thought i had got good at playing out the battles in the Total War series. nope, i guess the default AI was probably weak. i got my ass handed to me. i decided to start off as the Romans again (even though another mod i downloaded greatly enhances the Total Realism mod allows you to start off as any faction you like), and the starting map has the Romans at war with the Gauls to the north and some Thracian faction of some sort to the south of Italy. i've only played out 2 battles, one i lost by a landslide cuz i don't have much experience fighting against hoplights (guys with ridiculously long spears); the other i won because i commanded a small army that i accidentally placed too far from the action to factor into the battle and the AI commanded the much larger army. it's more of a challenge, i'll tell you. the Total Realism mod already enhances the AI of the other factions, so i might start over with a normal level difficulty (i went up to the 2nd highest difficulty). it's a lot of fun, i might start over as the Macedonians and try to bring the post-Alexander faction back to prominance. highly recommended if you've put R:TW back on the shelf for a bit. Last edited by Anthony : 08-01-2005 at 09:12 AM.

08-01-2005, 10:15 AM	#43
Abe Sargent General Manager Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: King of Prussia, PA	I absolutely agree that recent games have ben crap or really easy. With that in mind, I've recently been adding to my catalogue of games from the near past, and I have picked up a few older games thatI have really enjoyed. I just finished Jagged Alliance 2 from 2000, I think. It's essentially the squad based tactical system from X-Com games overtop a Fallout 2 style RPG setup. I liked it a lot. Some games, like SimCity4, you can just keep playing and playing and playing.... I am trying a new career in CK just a few days ago. Lots of fun! I'm always up for an evening of Tropico. It's the one game I've owner that I can just pop in and play every few months. It only takes me one day to play a game, and I really like that. If you've yet to play Sid Meier's Pirates or Tropico 2, then pick one up. You can get some enjoyment out of both. Neither will last you more than a couple of weeks of heavy playing, but both may be worth a discounted puirchase price. I'm currently finding that Age of Wonders 2 is very difficult. I don't know if it will hold my interest long enough, but I am quite entranced by its difficulty and epic-feel. I never much cared for GalCiv, to be honest. Hope that this helps! -Anxiety __________________ Check out my CURRENT weekly Magic column! /http://www.gatheringmagic.com/author/abesargent/ This is my old column, now its just biweekly: http://www.starcitygames.com/php/new...=Abe%20Sargent My D&D Dynasty: http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=77570

08-01-2005, 10:55 AM	#44
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Two that I started playing again recently are Close Combat (series) and Worms Armageddon. I forgot how much I love Worms!

08-01-2005, 11:09 AM	#45
flere-imsaho Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MS Paint	Penalty Box O-Rama Step 1: Pick a number between 1 and 100. Step 2: Use Excel's random number generator to generate a random number between 1 and 100. Step 3: You don't know how to use Excel's random number generator? Step 4: Learn how to use Excel's random number generator. Step 5: If Excel picks the number you picked, go to Step 9. Step 6: Use Excel's random number generator to pick a number between 1 and Jeeber's current post count. Step 7: Find the person (or persons) with the same post count as that number. Step 8: Penalty Box them for a week. Step 9: If, in Step 5, Excel picked the same number you did, Penalty Box yourself for a week. Step 10: Repeat once a week until Ryan S takes over the board in a bloody coup or Maple Leafs posts the results from IWS #114, whichever comes first.

08-07-2005, 07:19 PM	#48
Capital High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm playing Pirates right now and enjoying it.

08-07-2005, 07:29 PM	#49
MizzouRah General Manager Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I'd like to get into a different genre PC game right now. I'll have to check out some websites to see what's out there non-sports releated.

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