US will go bye bye in 2007

[GoldenEagle]

I guess I better make plans to go Vegas before 2007.

A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian scholar Ziad Silwadi. The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar. He said he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking and frightening."

His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.

"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster occurs because of the great services that American society has rendered to the economy, industry and science."

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and "ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to use nuclear weapons during World War II.

"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a big archive called the Koran."

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters) in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate heinous sins actually refer to the US.

As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura, which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their own souls."

Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin" of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by drowning for his evil deeds.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the unjust [verses 38-40]."

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231 years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a tree that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.

In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran, Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's surface; it has no stability."

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[Peregrine]

Wow, this is good to know, I'll make some plans to hide out in Canada, there should be some pretty sweet looting going on in the US after the tsunami.

[Coffee Warlord]

Learn to swim, seeya down in Arizona Bay!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Learn to swim, seeya down in Arizona Bay!

Yah, im safe here in az...any flood would evaporate before it got to me..lol, yah, loot CA!...i got steal me a model or two

[Easy Mac]

If I don't believe his god exists, then there's no way I can get hurt by him... what doesn't exist can't hurt me, so I'm safe.

[Fonzie]

I'm glad I moved to Illinois - I should have some nice beachfront property in a few years.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

I'm glad I moved to Illinois -

Six words I never thought I would read.

[VPI97]

OH NOES!!!!

[Pyser]

im curious as to what could cause tsunamis in both the atlantic and pacific. more spefically (an incredibly), tsuanmis that ONLY hit america.

[SunDancer]

This guy has way too much time on his hands...

[sovereignstar]

I'd better get two chicks at once before this fizzle happens.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by VPI97

OH NOES!!!!

[illinifan999]

I find the way the Muslim men treat their women a sin. So I am going to predict a great earthquake followed by a Israeli led assault to capture all of the Middle Easts oil in 2006. May not be a world-renowned scholar, but hey I have a responsibility.

[timmynausea]

Originally Posted by Pyser

im curious as to what could cause tsunamis in both the atlantic and pacific. more spefically (an incredibly), tsuanmis that ONLY hit america.

How about the Omnipotent Allah's force?

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by illinifan999

I find the way the Muslim men treat their women a sin. So I am going to predict a great earthquake followed by a Israeli led assault to capture all of the Middle Easts oil in 2006. May not be a world-renowned scholar, but hey I have a responsibility.

I am sorry but you have to make up some calcuations such 1,776 sins for your research to be posted in some random news source.

[Ksyrup]

I'll wait for the movie. And watch it from the comfort of my Florida home in 2010. Of course, that's when Jesus is coming back according to Doomsday Sabremetricians, right?

[KeyserSoze]

It´s the bad thing of predicting the end of the world. If you are right, there´s no world. If you fail, you are an idiot.

I predict the end of US in the 2150 Give me millions!!! giveme millions!!

[Havok]

im screwed... i live 2 miles from the beach!!!!!!!

[Tekneek]

Damn right that it would have to be a lot larger to wipe out the United States. How does he think it will wipe out the US but not damage Canada or Mexico? One thing that always just blows my mind about a lot of this sort of stuff that comes out of the Middle East is how they think the USA is roughly about the same size as their nations are, and geographically about the same as well. A tsunami that is going to clear all the mountain ranges? It will be amazing.

Oh well. If it is God's will for you to die in a tsunami, you've just got it coming. It's time to find out who is right about God and who is wrong. Maybe God will let somebody take their "American" family on a big boat and ride it out, along with some animal species that only live in the U.S.

[Ksyrup]

None of you are going to have seafront property. If the US is going to cease to exist, I assume that means we're all equally screwed. Those of us near the water will just have a better view and get it over with quicker.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I'm safe here in Europe, and I've got a spare bedroom if anybody needs it....

[Fritz]

everytime a prediction like this is made, and does not come true, it damages someone's/some group's credibility.

[ice4277]

Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

I'm safe here in Europe, and I've got a spare bedroom if anybody needs it....

Eh, I'm pretty sure there will be some mini-monsoons around the world to drown all the heathen Americans not in the States at that time.

[sterlingice]

Bitches. See how you like flyover country now when we're kicking you all back into the ocean

SI

[ice4277]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Bitches. See how you like flyover country now when we're kick you all back into the ocean

SI

Sorry, only true believers and the gramatically correct will survive.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by ice4277

Sorry, only true believers and the gramatically correct will survive.

Dammit. I hate trying to be awake at this time of the day.

SI

[tucker rocky]

....until then, everyday life will go on for me.

[CamEdwards]

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar.

I'm wondering how these became an article in the first place. Must be a slow day at the Jerusalem Post.

[Mustang]

"A great sin will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."


A great sin? Hmm.. they aren't bringing back the T.V show 'Full House' are they???

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

Looks like its time to convert to Muslim.

[st.cronin]

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

I love when Islamic extremists take the US to task for slavery, conveniently ignoring the fact that it was Islam which INVENTED the concept of racial slavery.

[Lathum]

So is he counting Alaska in this?

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I love when Islamic extremists take the US to task for slavery, conveniently ignoring the fact that it was Islam which INVENTED the concept of racial slavery.

You miss an important point. Their use of slavery was approved by Allah. Everything is ok if your God approves it.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So is he counting Alaska in this?

Heat seeking Tsunamis. With lasers to track their prey. They will undoubtably also hit US military bases accross the world; the ones that specifically hit only US European bases which are surrounded by land will be a site to see.

[vex]

What about the Indians, Blacks, and Muslims living in the US?

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by vexroid

What about the Indians, Blacks, and Muslims living in the US?

Once again, they will be brought down by the rest of us...the ultimate disgrace.

[sportsfan13]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

How does he think it will wipe out the US but not damage Canada or Mexico?

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Because the Mexicans and Canadians live their lives without sin, duh!!!

[Franklinnoble]

Guess I'd better start building that Ark.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by sportsfan13

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Because the Mexicans and Canadians live their lives without sin, duh!!!

Oh yeah, I forgot that. I keep trying to use logic and reason, when I should know that we're dealing with the power of faith.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Guess I'd better start building that Ark.

So you were the one that was picked?

[Hurst2112]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

So you were the one that was picked?

Is it because he is a drunk like Noah was?

[Tekneek]

Noah wasn't a drunk. He accidentally became drunk while, inexplicably, deciding to engage in some wine tasting. He got carried away and simply forgot to spit out the wine and swallowed it. The effect it had on him was increased because of the significant change in atmospheric pressure during those torrential rains.

Or, at least, that is the explanation I've found...

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

So you were the one that was picked?

Yeah.

How long can you tread water?

[gottimd]

[Tekneek]

That's me. The guy with gills that mumbles all the time and never changes his expression.

[Desnudo]

And drinks his own urine?

[Bubba Wheels]

When I first became born-again and started attending services regularly in the 80s there was alot of emphasis on prophecy, end times, ect.; What is interesting to me is that way back then biblical scholars using timelines interpreted from the Bible pegged the years of around 2006-2012 for things to start 'breaking loose' leading into the rise of the anti-christ and the return of Christ Himself.

Since then many other sources (including the famed Mayan calendar that ends in 2012) outside of the Bible keep coming up with predictions of events, upheavals, ect, all right about the same time-frame. Obviously not all can be correct (many theories conflict) but many including me believe that God is trying to get our attention about things possibly taking a dramatic change in the near future.

Also intriguing to me is the question of 'what happens to the U.S.A.", what happens to the world's greatest power not mentioned in end time prophecies during these calamities. Many Christians believe that the 'Rapture" takes place and enough key people in civilian and government life within the U.S. dissappear to make the U.S. a second-rate power overnight. Interesting that this Muslim scholar also sees the U.S. missing but has an entirely different explanation (obviously not believing in the Christian rapture of Revelation and other New Testement books.)

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

When I first became born-again and started attending services regularly in the 80s there was alot of emphasis on prophecy, end times, ect.; What is interesting to me is that way back then biblical scholars using timelines interpreted from the Bible pegged the years of around 2006-2012 for things to start 'breaking loose' leading into the rise of the anti-christ and the return of Christ Himself.

Since then many other sources (including the famed Mayan calendar that ends in 2012) outside of the Bible keep coming up with predictions of events, upheavals, ect, all right about the same time-frame. Obviously not all can be correct (many theories conflict) but many including me believe that God is trying to get our attention about things possibly taking a dramatic change in the near future.

Also intriguing to me is the question of 'what happens to the U.S.A.", what happens to the world's greatest power not mentioned in end time prophecies during these calamities. Many Christians believe that the 'Rapture" takes place and enough key people in civilian and government life within the U.S. dissappear to make the U.S. a second-rate power overnight. Interesting that this Muslim scholar also sees the U.S. missing but has an entirely different explanation (obviously not believing in the Christian rapture of Revelation and other New Testement books.)

Bubba, the Bible says we won't know when Christ will come again... it's a waste of time to try to predict it.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

[gottimd]

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Bubba, the Bible says we won't know when Christ will come again... it's a waste of time to try to predict it.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Franklin, the partial answer is contained in your own posted quote "..thou shalt not know what hour...". Jesus says be watchful, but He does give a general timing of events to come.

Matthew 24:32 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel); When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: (The rebirth of Israel 1948)
33 "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know it
is near, even at the door."
34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation (about 60yrs) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Mark 13:24-30 Covers the same and a little more beforehand

Books are written on this, but very clear in old and new testements that God did want us to have a general sense of when things were going to change (from the age of grace and the church into the Millenium of Christ rule and reign on earth.)