St. Joe's/S. Carolina: NIT Final

Young Drachma · 03-31-2005, 08:11 PM

Did you see that shot? That ending was craziness. I didn't have the TV on, I just turned it on at the last minute and that was happening.

Good stuff.

Joe · 03-31-2005, 08:12 PM

what happened

Young Drachma · 03-31-2005, 08:13 PM

St. Joe's down by 3 with 7 seconds or something..hits a 3 to tie it.

South Carolina drives down, doesn't call time out...with 7 seconds, the kid gets down there, gets past the NBA three line and just shoots a 3. Money.

0.9 seconds left, S. Carolina seals it. Nice job by both teams at the end.

Karlifornia · 03-31-2005, 08:14 PM

South Carolina gets a big "66th place" trophy. This actually brings me to an interesting question:

If you were a player or coach, would you rather get blown away in the first round of the NCAA tourney, or win the NIT?

Young Drachma · 03-31-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

South Carolina gets a big "66th place" trophy. This actually brings me to an interesting question:

If you were a player or coach, would you rather get blown away in the first round of the NCAA tourney, or win the NIT?

Win the NIT. It keeps your school on TV when all those other schools are at home. And even if it's not the "national championship," it's still a national championship.

I think the conferences are the ones that benefit the most from being in the NCAA tourney, because of the payouts. So no team in this age would turn down an NCAA bid for the chance to win the NIT, even if it would be better for their program long-term to be associated with winning, rather than being a "cinderella" who has no shot of winning more than a game.

Of course, if they lose in the NIT, it's probably worse.

B & B · 03-31-2005, 11:12 PM

Making the finals of the NIT is much, much better than getting blasted at the NCAA tourney by 20+.

More games, more exposure, ticket sales, local media buzz, better evaulation of your players. Still shocked that USC won, though.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2005, 11:30 PM

I think the development would be invaluable...

NoMyths · 03-31-2005, 11:53 PM

Woohoo!

ahbrady · 04-01-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

South Carolina gets a big "66th place" trophy. This actually brings me to an interesting question:

If you were a player or coach, would you rather get blown away in the first round of the NCAA tourney, or win the NIT?

That's a question I've heard asked before, and I can definitely see good points to both sides of it. However, I would say that if you are a team that can win the NIT, you probably wouldn't get blown out in the first round of the NCAA.

NoMyths · 04-01-2005, 12:42 AM

I for one would rather win my last game of the season than lose it, especially if I was a senior.

Logan · 04-01-2005, 10:41 AM

2-3 weeks of more practice. Extra ticket/concession sales (especially when you're given 3 home games before MSG, like RU got last year). National TV exposure, especially when no other tourney games are going on.

There's no doubt in my, and other Rutgers fans minds, that getting to the NIT finals last year IMMENSELY helped our recruiting. We have a class coming in next year that might end up ranked in the Top 25, and it definitely wouldn't have happened if we didn't look as good on TV (and packed the Garden like we did) and if we didn't perform in the NIT.

st.cronin · 04-01-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ahbrady

That's a question I've heard asked before, and I can definitely see good points to both sides of it. However, I would say that if you are a team that can win the NIT, you probably wouldn't get blown out in the first round of the NCAA.

Not neccesarily. Last team into the NCAA is usually a 11-13 seed, something like that. Depending on the matchup, that could easily be a blowout.

VPI97 · 04-01-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

If you were a player or coach, would you rather get blown away in the first round of the NCAA tourney, or win the NIT?

Winning the NIT. At VT, our '95 squad that won the NIT is revered...the team made the NCAA's twice while I was a student, too, but the NIT season is the one everyone has fond memories of.

ahbrady · 04-01-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Not neccesarily. Last team into the NCAA is usually a 11-13 seed, something like that. Depending on the matchup, that could easily be a blowout.

What I'm saying though, is that if a team is good enough to win 4 or 5 games against some pretty decent competition in the NIT, then they probably wouldn't be one of the 11-13 seeds that get blown out.

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04-01-2005, 10:41 AM	#11
Logan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	2-3 weeks of more practice. Extra ticket/concession sales (especially when you're given 3 home games before MSG, like RU got last year). National TV exposure, especially when no other tourney games are going on. There's no doubt in my, and other Rutgers fans minds, that getting to the NIT finals last year IMMENSELY helped our recruiting. We have a class coming in next year that might end up ranked in the Top 25, and it definitely wouldn't have happened if we didn't look as good on TV (and packed the Garden like we did) and if we didn't perform in the NIT. Last edited by Logan : 04-01-2005 at 10:42 AM.

03-31-2005, 08:12 PM	#2
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	what happened

03-31-2005, 11:53 PM	#8
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Woohoo!

04-01-2005, 12:42 AM	#10
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	I for one would rather win my last game of the season than lose it, especially if I was a senior.

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