Packers Vs Rams Tonight

Suicane75 · 11-29-2004, 02:28 PM

Why in the hell are the Packers 7 point favorites? They have no RB's and IMO are being highly overvalued tonight. I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people think the Pack is gonna roll tonight.

rkmsuf · 11-29-2004, 02:29 PM

St. Louis is dreadful on the road and has a dreadful defense.

korme · 11-29-2004, 02:29 PM

Suicane, meet Mike Martz.

Arles · 11-29-2004, 02:30 PM

There's a big bias against St. Louis in bad weather games because they play on turf and rely on speed. That, IMO, is more a reason for the big line than their opponent.

Franklinnoble · 11-29-2004, 02:34 PM

I think the big spread is more a factor of the sports books wanting to cover their asses in the likely event that there would be heavy wagering on GB at home in bad weather.

rkmsuf · 11-29-2004, 02:36 PM

I think it should be more. Based on that, lay it in on the Rams.

Suicane75 · 11-29-2004, 02:38 PM

Im actualy thinking that the worse the weather the better it is for the Rams, all things considered i'd rather have the Rams offense trying to operate in the conditions than the Packers with their running game in the shape it's in.

gstelmack · 11-29-2004, 03:41 PM

There's also the "Brett Favre always has a career night on MNF" factor.

Joe · 11-29-2004, 03:52 PM

yep, that factors has me taking the Pack

Joe · 11-29-2004, 04:01 PM

Also, I'm pretty sure the Rams losing to Miami, New Orleans, and Buffalo has something to do with it.

MizzouRah · 11-29-2004, 08:29 PM

Not a good start for my Rams.

Todd

miami_fan · 11-29-2004, 08:31 PM

Anybody need a kicker? Jeff Wilkins might be on the market based on Martz's mood over the last few weeks

-Mojo Jojo- · 11-29-2004, 11:24 PM

Given how easily the Rams were moving the ball up and down the field, that was a remarkable ass-whuppin. Go back to your dome, losers!!

Fonzie · 11-29-2004, 11:27 PM

Green Bay 45 - St. Louis 17

An impressive showing by the Packers. Favre and Davenport looked great, and the defense forced several turnovers.

A not-very-impressive showing by the Rams, highlighted by Martz' questionable decision to fake a FG in the 1st half (Wilkins failed to get the 1st, when a FG would've made it a one-TD game). Martz is stupid-crazy.

Solecismic · 11-29-2004, 11:40 PM

I think John Madden just proposed marriage to Brett Favre. The guy is impressive, a first-ballot Hall of Famer, sure, no question. But that was a rather sickening 60 minutes of splooging from Madden and friends. I'm surprised they didn't get Elton John up in the booth to compose yet another variation of Candle in the Wind for Favre.

Suicane75 · 11-29-2004, 11:42 PM

I'm sticking to the NBA. Stupid coach, stupid mistakes, is there a chance Martz gets the heave ho following the season?

cthomer5000 · 11-30-2004, 06:27 AM

The playoff picture in the NFC ain't that pretty at all. A 5-6 team is currently the #6 seed. Oh my.

miked · 11-30-2004, 06:33 AM

Stupid Martz, I lost in fantasy football by 2 pts and I had Wilkins. If Martz had kicked the FG instead of that dreadful fake, I would have won. Just one more reason to hate that bastard.

Samdari · 11-30-2004, 08:34 AM

[quote=Suicane75]They have no RB's [quote]

This is the really surprising statement.

There is growing sentiment in Green Bay that Davenport is better than Ahman Green, as good as he is. And Fisher is easily the best #3 RB in the league. They have running backs.

rkmsuf · 11-30-2004, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I think it should be more. Based on that, lay it in on the Rams.

Never doubt my genius.

The Afoci · 11-30-2004, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

This is the really surprising statement.

There is growing sentiment in Green Bay that Davenport is better than Ahman Green, as good as he is. And Fisher is easily the best #3 RB in the league. They have running backs.

I am not sure which one is the Vikings #3 back, but I am sure he is better than Fisher. Not saying 1 or 2 are anywhere near Green and Davenport.

Fonzie · 11-30-2004, 08:42 AM

[quote=Samdari][quote=Suicane75]They have no RB's

Quote:

This is the really surprising statement.

There is growing sentiment in Green Bay that Davenport is better than Ahman Green, as good as he is. And Fisher is easily the best #3 RB in the league. They have running backs.

I agree with you Samdari - the Packers have great depth at RB. I rather took Suicane's comment to mean that all of their backs were hurt, not that they had no RB talent - because they clearly do.

rkmsuf · 11-30-2004, 08:44 AM

Davenport will struggle to stay healthy.

JasonC23 · 11-30-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I think John Madden just proposed marriage to Brett Favre. The guy is impressive, a first-ballot Hall of Famer, sure, no question. But that was a rather sickening 60 minutes of splooging from Madden and friends. I'm surprised they didn't get Elton John up in the booth to compose yet another variation of Candle in the Wind for Favre.

Did you catch last Sunday night's game, Packers v Texans? I'm surprised Favre could even play last night, what with those 3 guys' lips still surgically attached to his ass.

(Off-topic rant) Why do the networks think that all we want the announcers to do is pick a player in the game and then fawn all over him the whole night? Would actual football analysis really be so complicated that casual fans would turn it off???

MizzouRah · 11-30-2004, 06:17 PM

This team continues to piss me off to no end.

Again, Martz is an idiot and I hope he gets fired real soon. Friggin Packers are NOT that good.

Todd

cthomer5000 · 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Again, Martz is an idiot and I hope he gets fired real soon. Friggin Packers are NOT that good.

I agree, but I do think they are good enough, particularly in the NFC.

MizzouRah · 11-30-2004, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I agree, but I do think they are good enough, particularly in the NFC.

Agreed here... but they won't last in the playoffs.

Todd

11-29-2004, 02:29 PM	#2
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	St. Louis is dreadful on the road and has a dreadful defense. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-29-2004, 02:30 PM	#4
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	There's a big bias against St. Louis in bad weather games because they play on turf and rely on speed. That, IMO, is more a reason for the big line than their opponent. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

11-29-2004, 02:38 PM	#7
Suicane75 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Im actualy thinking that the worse the weather the better it is for the Rams, all things considered i'd rather have the Rams offense trying to operate in the conditions than the Packers with their running game in the shape it's in. __________________ Jake "The Snake" Roberts

11-29-2004, 03:41 PM	#8
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	There's also the "Brett Favre always has a career night on MNF" factor. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of FOF 2k7 Utility Suite - v2.0.6 released September 24, 2012 -- The Ladder (NCAA 13) - South Florida

11-29-2004, 11:42 PM	#16
Suicane75 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I'm sticking to the NBA. Stupid coach, stupid mistakes, is there a chance Martz gets the heave ho following the season? __________________ Jake "The Snake" Roberts

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11-29-2004, 02:34 PM	#5
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I think the big spread is more a factor of the sports books wanting to cover their asses in the likely event that there would be heavy wagering on GB at home in bad weather.

11-29-2004, 02:36 PM	#6
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I think it should be more. Based on that, lay it in on the Rams. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales Last edited by rkmsuf : 11-30-2004 at 08:34 AM.

11-29-2004, 03:52 PM	#9
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	yep, that factors has me taking the Pack

11-29-2004, 04:01 PM	#10
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	Also, I'm pretty sure the Rams losing to Miami, New Orleans, and Buffalo has something to do with it.

11-29-2004, 08:29 PM	#11
MizzouRah General Manager Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Not a good start for my Rams. Todd

11-29-2004, 08:31 PM	#12
miami_fan Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Part Unknown	Anybody need a kicker? Jeff Wilkins might be on the market based on Martz's mood over the last few weeks

11-29-2004, 11:24 PM	#13
-Mojo Jojo- High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2003	Given how easily the Rams were moving the ball up and down the field, that was a remarkable ass-whuppin. Go back to your dome, losers!!

11-29-2004, 11:27 PM	#14
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Green Bay 45 - St. Louis 17 An impressive showing by the Packers. Favre and Davenport looked great, and the defense forced several turnovers. A not-very-impressive showing by the Rams, highlighted by Martz' questionable decision to fake a FG in the 1st half (Wilkins failed to get the 1st, when a FG would've made it a one-TD game). Martz is stupid-crazy.

11-29-2004, 11:40 PM	#15
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	I think John Madden just proposed marriage to Brett Favre. The guy is impressive, a first-ballot Hall of Famer, sure, no question. But that was a rather sickening 60 minutes of splooging from Madden and friends. I'm surprised they didn't get Elton John up in the booth to compose yet another variation of Candle in the Wind for Favre.

11-30-2004, 06:33 AM	#18
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Stupid Martz, I lost in fantasy football by 2 pts and I had Wilkins. If Martz had kicked the FG instead of that dreadful fake, I would have won. Just one more reason to hate that bastard.

11-30-2004, 08:34 AM	#19
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	[quote=Suicane75]They have no RB's [quote] This is the really surprising statement. There is growing sentiment in Green Bay that Davenport is better than Ahman Green, as good as he is. And Fisher is easily the best #3 RB in the league. They have running backs. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

11-30-2004, 08:44 AM	#23
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Davenport will struggle to stay healthy. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-30-2004, 06:17 PM	#25
MizzouRah General Manager Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	This team continues to piss me off to no end. Again, Martz is an idiot and I hope he gets fired real soon. Friggin Packers are NOT that good. Todd

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