Strategy

alterra · 10-28-2003, 01:43 PM

Couldn't find anything in the strategy section, but I'm looking for advice on playcalling in FOF4. Any advice at all! My teams do much, much better when I quicksim, and I don't know why.

Subby · 10-28-2003, 02:00 PM

What kind of gameplan do you normally follow?

SplitPersonality1 · 10-28-2003, 02:01 PM

Looking for actual FOF game advice at FOFC?

What's wrong with you man!

alterra · 10-28-2003, 02:08 PM

Basically I try to play a balanced offense, although because of the salary structure I try to play a lot of two tight end sets, with a strong running game. In my last season, in the 6 games I playcalled, my star rb (82) averaged less than 3 ypc - after quicksimming the last 10 games, he finished 2nd in the league in yards, with just under 4 ypc.

FBPro · 10-28-2003, 02:27 PM

Yet I would say alot of your success or failure depends on matching the makeup of your team(west coast, longball, 3 yards and a cloud of dust) to the correct gameplan/playcalling. Have you determined what type of offensive team you have?

Subby · 10-28-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by alterra
Basically I try to play a balanced offense, although because of the salary structure I try to play a lot of two tight end sets, with a strong running game. In my last season, in the 6 games I playcalled, my star rb (82) averaged less than 3 ypc - after quicksimming the last 10 games, he finished 2nd in the league in yards, with just under 4 ypc.

Six games is not really much of a sample size. I would try playcalling a whole season and then replaying that season with a quicksim and comparing the results.

Is your gameplan tailored to how you call your games? Compare how many rushes your team gets when you playcall versus a quicksim. You may be relying to heavily on the run - may not be running around end enough...you really need more data to make a valid comparison.

alterra · 10-28-2003, 02:41 PM

That was just an example from my latest career ... I've had similiar results with every career I've tried, good teams, bad teams, teams with strong qbs or poor qbs. I call about 50/50 runs on 1st and 10, more if it's the second half and I've got a good lead. Basically, no matter the talent of my team, I haven't been able to get a good Rushing Offense, or Passing Defense while playcalling. I just want ideas from people who have had success at playcalling.

RPI-Fan · 10-28-2003, 02:55 PM

If you have such a good running back, you should be running more on 1st & 10, IMO. Even situations like 2nd & 10 you should run a fair amount.

Morgado studied, in detail, playcalling in FOF2 (which I'd guess is very similar to FOF4), and found that the run sets up the pass, and not the other way around.

~rpi-fan

Subby · 10-28-2003, 02:59 PM

What Kyle said.

Most of your evidence is kind of anecdotal, so it is hard to tell if you are running your backs as much as the computer would. I would recommend running on first down 70/30.

Leonidas · 10-28-2003, 08:52 PM

I selctively play call. I'll do 20-30% of the calls and it seems to work well for me. When it's a big play I make the call. I also make sure the game doesn't hose me by punting when I want to try a FG and vice versa. I've lost games where the AI punted late on a no brainer go for it situation. But for routine gameplay the AI does a decent job calling my plays.

10-28-2003, 02:00 PM	#2
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Shut up, rowech.	What kind of gameplan do you normally follow? __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!!

10-28-2003, 02:01 PM	#3
SplitPersonality1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Grafton, WI	Looking for actual FOF game advice at FOFC? What's wrong with you man! __________________

10-28-2003, 02:27 PM	#5
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	Yet I would say alot of your success or failure depends on matching the makeup of your team(west coast, longball, 3 yards and a cloud of dust) to the correct gameplan/playcalling. Have you determined what type of offensive team you have? __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

10-28-2003, 02:55 PM	#8
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	If you have such a good running back, you should be running more on 1st & 10, IMO. Even situations like 2nd & 10 you should run a fair amount. Morgado studied, in detail, playcalling in FOF2 (which I'd guess is very similar to FOF4), and found that the run sets up the pass, and not the other way around. ~rpi-fan __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

10-28-2003, 02:59 PM	#9
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Shut up, rowech.	What Kyle said. Most of your evidence is kind of anecdotal, so it is hard to tell if you are running your backs as much as the computer would. I would recommend running on first down 70/30. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!!

10-28-2003, 02:08 PM	#4
alterra Mascot Join Date: Jul 2003	Basically I try to play a balanced offense, although because of the salary structure I try to play a lot of two tight end sets, with a strong running game. In my last season, in the 6 games I playcalled, my star rb (82) averaged less than 3 ypc - after quicksimming the last 10 games, he finished 2nd in the league in yards, with just under 4 ypc.

10-28-2003, 02:41 PM	#7
alterra Mascot Join Date: Jul 2003	That was just an example from my latest career ... I've had similiar results with every career I've tried, good teams, bad teams, teams with strong qbs or poor qbs. I call about 50/50 runs on 1st and 10, more if it's the second half and I've got a good lead. Basically, no matter the talent of my team, I haven't been able to get a good Rushing Offense, or Passing Defense while playcalling. I just want ideas from people who have had success at playcalling.

10-28-2003, 08:52 PM	#10
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	I selctively play call. I'll do 20-30% of the calls and it seems to work well for me. When it's a big play I make the call. I also make sure the game doesn't hose me by punting when I want to try a FG and vice versa. I've lost games where the AI punted late on a no brainer go for it situation. But for routine gameplay the AI does a decent job calling my plays. __________________ Molon labe

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