Eagles to Owens: Don't Come Back This Year - Page 3

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-08-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

www.philadelphiaeagles.com has the press conference and the question and "NEXT QUESTION!" session immediately following.

"Would Terrell's situation be any different right now if you never were his agent?"

"NEXT QUESTION!"

"Since everything Terrell said was taken out of context by the media, are you saying it's ESPN's fault for him being suspended?"

"NEXT QUESTION!"

Great stuff.

Weren't they trying to blame Dan Patrick earlier last -this week for the whole bruhaha? I thought I heard somethin' about this on DP show.

miami_fan · 11-08-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Weren't they trying to blame Dan Patrick earlier last -this week for the whole bruhaha? I thought I heard somethin' about this on DP show.

Because Michael Irvin said on Patrick's radio show if Favre was the QB of the Eagles, they(the Eagles) would be undefeated. The problem is they everyone knows that he got that nugget of info FROM Owens

Arctus · 11-08-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I think this is a mistake. Need comes before image. As long as T.O. puts in the work, any locker room animosity would be short-lived. You don't have to like the guy to throw him a touchdown pass.

Under the circumstances, a one-game suspension would have been more appropriate - that's $200k worth of the only message T.O. understands. Then a long discussion with Rosenhaus during the off-season to let him know that there will be no renegotiations and that any further problems will result even more quickly in a suspension.

If they release T.O. during the off-season (which appears certain now), he will get a big contract. Not as big as he thinks he's worth, but certainly much more than a $1 million, one-year deal.

If I were an Eagles fan, I'd be livid with Reid right now.

I'm an Eagles fan and I am absolutely thrilled with the way the Eagles handled this. I agree that need comes before image, but I don't think the on field production comes before proper conduct. I don't know of many organizations that would tolerate an employee bashing them in the national media.

T.O. said and did some things and was given an ultimatum. Publicly apologize to the organization, his teammates and McNabb. He chose not to do so. He's now dealing with the consequences.

I've yet to see today's press conference. My father caught it, he said that if TO read that statement last week, he probably wouldn't have been suspended against the Skins.

Regardless of the man's god given talents and past performance this season, I wouldn't consider someone who challenges the entire team to a fight and defies the organization's leadership as someone I want suiting up on game day. I'm pretty sure the Eagles passed short lived locker room animosity a long time ago.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-08-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Because Michael Irvin said on Patrick's radio show if Favre was the QB of the Eagles, they(the Eagles) would be undefeated. The problem is they everyone knows that he got that nugget of info FROM Owens

0k I remember now! It was on Thursday and Fridays shows. IIRC Michael and, Dan got into a little heated discussion about this and, Dan had to tone the interview down.

Raiders Army · 11-09-2005, 09:03 AM

I saw TO and Rosenhaus' interview on Total Access yesterday. I think they brought up a good angle: TO's a competitor. That's why he made the comments that he did. I also agree with them that the media blows his words out of proportion and takes them out of context. That being said, I think the whole thing was a good move on their part with one exception: they should've said that even though TO's a competitor, he's also immature and that's why he made those comments. Had that been said a week ago, he would've played.

In no way did either of them acknowledge TO's fault of being immature. If they had, then it would indicate that this wouldn't happen again since they have recognized the root cause for his actions and they would work on that fault so it won't happen again.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-14-2005, 09:47 AM

This whole saga has now reached an all time low. Well, either this saga, or Jesse Jackson and Ralph Nader. I mean, seriously, wtf? What the hell are Jesse Jacskon and Ralph Nader doing chiming in on this issue? It's fucking football for crissakes.

I was never clear where I stood on Jesse Jackson before (since I never really paid all that much attention to the guy), but things are clearing up...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ns.jackson.ap/

Suspended disbelief

Rev. Jackson calls T.O. punishment 'much too severe'

Posted: Sunday November 13, 2005 1:26AM; Updated: Sunday November 13, 2005 1:59AM

Jesse Jackson spoke to Terrell Owens and came away convinced that he was sincere.
AP

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the Philadelphia Eagles' punishment of Terrell Owens "much too severe."

Jackson said in a statement released Friday that Owens could have been more professional when he publicly complained about his contract, his team and the Eagles' organization.

But Jackson said Owens' suspension without pay for four games and deactivation for the rest of the season is "much too severe for the charge" and hurts the athlete's NFL career at its height.

The civil rights activist said the level of punishment could have been warranted if Owens had been caught shaving points, selling drugs, carrying a gun or fighting fans without sufficient restraint.

"This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game," Jackson said, adding that the Eagles should release Owens to the open market or free agency if they no longer want to associate with him.

Ralph Nader, a consumer activist and former presidential candidate, has already called for the suspension to be rescinded.

Owens was suspended last week after he said in an interview that the Eagles showed "a lack of class" for not publicly recognizing his 100th career touchdown catch, and that the team would be better off with Green Bay's Brett Favre as quarterback. He has since apologized.

Complete statement

"Terrell Owens did an interview last week and engaged in some unsportsmanlike speech, deemed detrimental to the team, but nonetheless free speech. He expressed some dissatisfaction with his contract, his team and the Eagles' organization, which should have been expressed in a more professional manner. The Eagles have suspended T.O. for four games without pay and have decided to deactivate him for the rest of the year. His future in the National Football League is uncertain, thus potentially ending his career at its heights.

"This punishment is much too severe for the charge. If he had been caught shaving points, selling drugs, carrying a gun or fighting some fans, who provoked him, and he had not shown sufficient restraint, we could understand the severe suspension, because those are very serious and illegal acts. Unfortunately for T.O., who belatedly apologized three days after the infraction, the real question is do his comments warrant a penalty this severe?

"The answer is no. This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game. The NFL Players Association has taken a position that the punishment does not correspond with the infraction and the association wants the Eagles to cut T.O. if they are not going to reinstate him. I agree. T.O. has publicly apologized. His heart is contrite. If the Philadelphia Eagles' owners do not find his apology acceptable and no longer aim to maintain an association with him, they should release him to the open market or free agency, allowing him to test the free market for his services. I call for fairness in this dispute."

Raiders Army · 11-14-2005, 09:50 AM

I love it when people talk out of their ass and make a good living doing so.

flere-imsaho · 11-14-2005, 09:53 AM

This is a nice dovetail with the Robertson/O'Reilly thread.

Let's see if anyone wants to be hypocrites.

As usual, Jackson is way off base here and is only doing this to keep his name in the press. Someone ought to point out to Rev. Jackson that if any one of us said similar things in public of our employers we'd just be out of a job. Even, gasp, if we were white!

Ksyrup · 11-14-2005, 09:57 AM

"His future in the National Football League is uncertain, thus potentially ending his career at its heights."

Fucking bullshit hyperbole. I'm so sick of listening to this, and not just from Unkle Jesse. He loses one year of playing on a team for being such an ass no one wants him on the team. When the time comes for the roster bonus he's due to kick in, he'll have been cut loose by Philly and free to sign with any team he wants - a chance he lost out on 2 years ago by the action (or inaction) of his own agent, btw. Until then, he can take his 5 weeks worth of pay or whatever he'll get after the 4 weeks is up, go home, and shut up.

Having said all of that, I have no doubt that the arbitrator is going to cut the suspension (meaning more unpaid leave for Owens) and order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him. I just hope it doesn't happen before the end of the season (i.e., immediately following the SB). I think this is going to come down to a more technical issue than the broad issues being discussed in the press. I heard that, for instance, the Eagles suspended him for the Redskins game and gave the complete reasoning they are now relying on at the time they gave that suspension, then went back and added the other 3 game suspension to the same set of reasons. I could see the arbitrator ruling that the suspension should only be for 1 game, if that's true.

rkmsuf · 11-14-2005, 10:00 AM

I don't see how they can force his release. Maybe they can unsuspend him in which case I'd guess he would just be inactive each week.

Unless Upshaw and the players start actually doing something I can't see much coming of any appeal.

Kodos · 11-14-2005, 10:01 AM

It's never good when Jesse has to weigh in on a matter.

You did the right thing, Eagles. Never back off.

jeff061 · 11-14-2005, 10:02 AM

I don't think anyone on this planet except for Drew and Jesse support him, I think the players association would see him burn if they could get away with it.

rkmsuf · 11-14-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

I don't think anyone on this planet except for Drew and Jesse support him, I think the players association would see him burn if they could get away with it.

you'll notice upshaw and the nflpa has been absent from any press conferences or media on owens behalf. instead they let drew yell and scream for to.

stevew · 11-14-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

"His future in the National Football League is uncertain, thus potentially ending his career at its heights."

Fucking bullshit hyperbole. I'm so sick of listening to this, and not just from Unkle Jesse. He loses one year of playing on a team for being such an ass no one wants him on the team. When the time comes for the roster bonus he's due to kick in, he'll have been cut loose by Philly and free to sign with any team he wants - a chance he lost out on 2 years ago by the action (or inaction) of his own agent, btw. Until then, he can take his 5 weeks worth of pay or whatever he'll get after the 4 weeks is up, go home, and shut up.

Having said all of that, I have no doubt that the arbitrator is going to cut the suspension (meaning more unpaid leave for Owens) and order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him. I just hope it doesn't happen before the end of the season (i.e., immediately following the SB). I think this is going to come down to a more technical issue than the broad issues being discussed in the press. I heard that, for instance, the Eagles suspended him for the Redskins game and gave the complete reasoning they are now relying on at the time they gave that suspension, then went back and added the other 3 game suspension to the same set of reasons. I could see the arbitrator ruling that the suspension should only be for 1 game, if that's true.

One thing i have heard is the arbitrator can definately not order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him.

The suspension was a bit shady, only cause they changed it from 1 game to 4 games for the same reason. I bet that he is only not paid for the one game.

Anthony · 11-14-2005, 10:14 AM

Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton are what's wrong with America. the black cause will be further advanced once those two are out of the picture.

Samdari · 11-14-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

One thing i have heard is the arbitrator can definately not order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him.

The suspension was a bit shady, only cause they changed it from 1 game to 4 games for the same reason. I bet that he is only not paid for the one game.

I'll agree with this. The arbitrator will throw the NFLPA a bone, and it will be the return of some pay (be it two games worth or three). It is certainly not within his rights to unilaterally release T.O. Somewhat nebulous is the arbitrator's ability to force the Eagles to let him practice/play. I don't think he can do that either, at least I feel he won't.

I just hope this leads to the end of Rosenhaus' reign as a 'superagent' known as someone who can strong arm any organization into a new contract for veteran players. Sacrificing 2/3 of a season worth of TO is worth it to me, if that takes place.

Ksyrup · 11-14-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

One thing i have heard is the arbitrator can definately not order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him.

I'm not sure he has the legal grounds (or balls), but I definitely think he can. The faux-article Peter King wrote for today's MMQB is a great reason why I hope he doesn't, though.

Anthony · 11-14-2005, 10:30 AM

i'm curious as to how Rosenhaus thought this would play out and not have the end result being such a negative backlash from media and the league. TO is my favorite player but he should be blacklisted in the league, and no one should give him a contract. the abuse of his powers as a pro athlete/celeb are sickening, being allowed to get away with an insane amount of wrongdoings that a normal person would have been terminated over long ago.

rkmsuf · 11-23-2005, 10:58 AM

The ShowGirl: (11:35 AM ET ) Hey folks. Mort had to run as his phone was getting hot. As for all of you asking for the T.O. scoop, as of right now, Newsday is reporting that arbitrator Richard Bloch is expected to reduce Owens' four-game suspension from four games to one or two games later today.

The ShowGirl: (11:36 AM ET ) The report indicates that the Eagles, who planned to de-activate Owens for the remainder of the season, will release the receiver instead.

The ShowGirl: (11:37 AM ET ) Coach Andy Reid news conference is on the way. Keep it here for updates ... and it will be broadcast on ESPNews.

stevew · 11-23-2005, 11:00 AM

If he gets released, i wonder who claims?

SirFozzie · 11-23-2005, 11:01 AM

football doesn't have claims like baseball, he'd become a fa and sign with whoever he wants

SegRat · 11-23-2005, 11:23 AM

From KFFL:
Eagles | Owens update
Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:47:28 -0800

Bob Glauber, of Newsday, reports an arbitrator is expected to rule Wednesday, Nov. 23, that Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens' suspension will be reduced to one or two games, and that he will immediately be reinstated. A league source familiar with the Eagles' situation said this morning that the team is prepared to release Owens if he decides to return to the team and create a distraction. If reinstated he can return to the team, however, the Eagles have stated they plan to de-activate him for the remainder of the season. If released he is subject to the league's waiver rules.

rkmsuf · 11-23-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

football doesn't have claims like baseball, he'd become a fa and sign with whoever he wants

I don't believe that is true. The team that claims the player assumes his contract except for the bonus money. At least that's what happened with a guy like Dimetrius Underwood when he was cut from the Vikings and was awarded to Miami.

Samdari · 11-23-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

football doesn't have claims like baseball, he'd become a fa and sign with whoever he wants

Uhh, yeah, they do.

stevew · 11-23-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

football doesn't have claims like baseball, he'd become a fa and sign with whoever he wants

Waivers. At least according to the previous post.

scooper · 11-23-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I don't believe that is true. The team that claims the player assumes his contract except for the bonus money. At least that's what happened with a guy like Dimetrius Underwood when he was cut from the Vikings and was awarded to Miami.

I believe waivers only come into play for players under a certain amount of time in the league. Underwood obviously was a younger guy when he was released. It might be five years or so. So TO would immediately be a free agent.

rkmsuf · 11-23-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scooper

I believe waivers only come into play for players under a certain amount of time in the league. Underwood obviously was a younger guy when he was released. It might be five years or so. So TO would immediately be a free agent.

Who knows. I can find very little about this on the internets.

vtbub · 11-23-2005, 11:49 AM

He needs to clear waivers before his release. I've read that many times and from many different places.

Surtt · 11-23-2005, 11:51 AM

If a play is released after the trade deadline he is subject to wavers.

Surtt · 11-23-2005, 11:55 AM

Dola

And players with less then 4 years of service.

CleBrownsfan · 11-23-2005, 11:56 AM

This could help my fantasy team when I reach the playoffs!!

stevew · 11-23-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

He needs to clear waivers before his release. I've read that many times and from many different places.

Unfortunately, the average fan knows more about shit like this than the reporters often due. I could see the no waivers thing on older players, i was just going on what had been reported.

vtbub · 11-23-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Unfortunately, the average fan knows more about shit like this than the reporters often due. I could see the no waivers thing on older players, i was just going on what had been reported.

I wasn't ragging on anything that was specifially said on hee, I think I read it five different times just yesterday.

The point is moot now any way, Owens lost his case in every aspect, meaning the Eagles are free to hide him on their roster and not play him this year.

Samdari · 11-23-2005, 12:47 PM

Sal Pal just came on and said that the Eagles won totally - the Four game suspension and deactiviating him for the year are both within the Eagles rights.

Solecismic · 11-23-2005, 03:49 PM

I suppose the sole purpose of hiding him on the roster the rest of the year is just to keep him away from a potential playoff opponent. The Eagles may just release him once they're out of playoff contention anyway. They would have zero luck trading him prior to next season because of the roster bonus.

And I don't really see them competing for a playoff spot without a healthy McNabb.

Raiders Army · 11-23-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I suppose the sole purpose of hiding him on the roster the rest of the year is just to keep him away from a potential playoff opponent. The Eagles may just release him once they're out of playoff contention anyway. They would have zero luck trading him prior to next season because of the roster bonus.

And I don't really see them competing for a playoff spot without a healthy McNabb.

So should we pick him up in our fantasy leagues?

GrantDawg · 11-23-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I suppose the sole purpose of hiding him on the roster the rest of the year is just to keep him away from a potential playoff opponent. The Eagles may just release him once they're out of playoff contention anyway. They would have zero luck trading him prior to next season because of the roster bonus.

And I don't really see them competing for a playoff spot without a healthy McNabb.

Woudn't there be a salary cap advantage next year by waiting until spring (Can't remember the cap dates)? Then his cap hit splits into two years instead of it mostly hiting next.

SFL Cat · 11-24-2005, 01:03 AM

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Crapshoot · 11-24-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Woudn't there be a salary cap advantage next year by waiting until spring (Can't remember the cap dates)? Then his cap hit splits into two years instead of it mostly hiting next.

yeah - but given the Eagles have $7 million in cap room this year, they might as well use it eat Owens contract - as opposed to taking that hit next year.

Crapshoot · 11-24-2005, 01:19 AM

dola,
there are a lot of people who appear to have feeling of schadenfreude here - not surprising, but still dissappointing.

Icy · 11-24-2005, 03:24 AM

Umm i released him in the euro fofc fantasy and somebody picked him so fast, maybe i was to fast releasing him. If i were the Eagels i would keep him in the team, but would play him only as olinemen in blowouts to taste the strong guys.

Btw, i know it's stupid but i'm curious now, would that be possible? has the team the rights to play him where they want? can he refuse? what happends if he does?

stevew · 11-24-2005, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Woudn't there be a salary cap advantage next year by waiting until spring (Can't remember the cap dates)? Then his cap hit splits into two years instead of it mostly hiting next.

Nah, they'd have to keep him on the roster at a large cap # and pay that roster bonus if they keep him till june 1st. If they just flat out release him at some point, his dead cap number for next year would be like 4-5 million. If they release him before the end of the this season, im not sure if it still counts against next years cap(06-07), or if it all gets washed away on this years. I know they have some cap room left, which Im sure they folded into someones contract as an incentive, so that they could save it for next year.

Mike D · 11-24-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Umm i released him in the euro fofc fantasy and somebody picked him so fast, maybe i was to fast releasing him. If i were the Eagels i would keep him in the team, but would play him only as olinemen in blowouts to taste the strong guys.

Btw, i know it's stupid but i'm curious now, would that be possible? has the team the rights to play him where they want? can he refuse? what happends if he does?

That reminds me actually of a play I saw on Sunday Night Football between the Vikings and the Packers. Cris Carter was in motion (yeah it was a while back) and when he got to the RT the ball was snapped. The RT blocked in on the DT and Cris Carter found himself matched up one on one on Reggie White. Moments after Cris Carter was sent flying through the air by a Reggie White arm-sweep, the Vikings QB was sacked. Morale of the story? Never use your Hall of Fame WR to block their Hall of Fame DE.

11-14-2005, 09:57 AM	#109
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	"His future in the National Football League is uncertain, thus potentially ending his career at its heights." Fucking bullshit hyperbole. I'm so sick of listening to this, and not just from Unkle Jesse. He loses one year of playing on a team for being such an ass no one wants him on the team. When the time comes for the roster bonus he's due to kick in, he'll have been cut loose by Philly and free to sign with any team he wants - a chance he lost out on 2 years ago by the action (or inaction) of his own agent, btw. Until then, he can take his 5 weeks worth of pay or whatever he'll get after the 4 weeks is up, go home, and shut up. Having said all of that, I have no doubt that the arbitrator is going to cut the suspension (meaning more unpaid leave for Owens) and order the Eagles to terminate their rights to him. I just hope it doesn't happen before the end of the season (i.e., immediately following the SB). I think this is going to come down to a more technical issue than the broad issues being discussed in the press. I heard that, for instance, the Eagles suspended him for the Redskins game and gave the complete reasoning they are now relying on at the time they gave that suspension, then went back and added the other 3 game suspension to the same set of reasons. I could see the arbitrator ruling that the suspension should only be for 1 game, if that's true. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 11-14-2005 at 09:58 AM.

11-14-2005, 10:00 AM	#110
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I don't see how they can force his release. Maybe they can unsuspend him in which case I'd guess he would just be inactive each week. Unless Upshaw and the players start actually doing something I can't see much coming of any appeal. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-14-2005, 10:02 AM	#112
jeff061 Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I don't think anyone on this planet except for Drew and Jesse support him, I think the players association would see him burn if they could get away with it. __________________

11-23-2005, 10:58 AM	#119
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	The ShowGirl: (11:35 AM ET ) Hey folks. Mort had to run as his phone was getting hot. As for all of you asking for the T.O. scoop, as of right now, Newsday is reporting that arbitrator Richard Bloch is expected to reduce Owens' four-game suspension from four games to one or two games later today. The ShowGirl: (11:36 AM ET ) The report indicates that the Eagles, who planned to de-activate Owens for the remainder of the season, will release the receiver instead. The ShowGirl: (11:37 AM ET ) Coach Andy Reid news conference is on the way. Keep it here for updates ... and it will be broadcast on ESPNews. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-23-2005, 11:01 AM	#121
SirFozzie General Manager Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Franklin, MA, 02038	football doesn't have claims like baseball, he'd become a fa and sign with whoever he wants __________________ Hey, Foz now has a video game blog. Go and Read It.. NOW. http://8bitmindin64bitworld.blogspot.com/

11-09-2005, 09:03 AM	#105
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I saw TO and Rosenhaus' interview on Total Access yesterday. I think they brought up a good angle: TO's a competitor. That's why he made the comments that he did. I also agree with them that the media blows his words out of proportion and takes them out of context. That being said, I think the whole thing was a good move on their part with one exception: they should've said that even though TO's a competitor, he's also immature and that's why he made those comments. Had that been said a week ago, he would've played. In no way did either of them acknowledge TO's fault of being immature. If they had, then it would indicate that this wouldn't happen again since they have recognized the root cause for his actions and they would work on that fault so it won't happen again.

11-14-2005, 09:50 AM	#107
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I love it when people talk out of their ass and make a good living doing so.

11-14-2005, 09:53 AM	#108
flere-imsaho Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MS Paint	This is a nice dovetail with the Robertson/O'Reilly thread. Let's see if anyone wants to be hypocrites. As usual, Jackson is way off base here and is only doing this to keep his name in the press. Someone ought to point out to Rev. Jackson that if any one of us said similar things in public of our employers we'd just be out of a job. Even, gasp, if we were white!

11-14-2005, 10:01 AM	#111
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It's never good when Jesse has to weigh in on a matter. You did the right thing, Eagles. Never back off.

11-14-2005, 10:14 AM	#115
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton are what's wrong with America. the black cause will be further advanced once those two are out of the picture.

11-14-2005, 10:30 AM	#118
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i'm curious as to how Rosenhaus thought this would play out and not have the end result being such a negative backlash from media and the league. TO is my favorite player but he should be blacklisted in the league, and no one should give him a contract. the abuse of his powers as a pro athlete/celeb are sickening, being allowed to get away with an insane amount of wrongdoings that a normal person would have been terminated over long ago.

11-23-2005, 11:00 AM	#120
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If he gets released, i wonder who claims?

11-23-2005, 11:23 AM	#122
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	From KFFL: Eagles \| Owens update Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:47:28 -0800 Bob Glauber, of Newsday, reports an arbitrator is expected to rule Wednesday, Nov. 23, that Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens' suspension will be reduced to one or two games, and that he will immediately be reinstated. A league source familiar with the Eagles' situation said this morning that the team is prepared to release Owens if he decides to return to the team and create a distraction. If reinstated he can return to the team, however, the Eagles have stated they plan to de-activate him for the remainder of the season. If released he is subject to the league's waiver rules. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

11-23-2005, 11:49 AM	#128
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	He needs to clear waivers before his release. I've read that many times and from many different places. __________________

11-23-2005, 11:51 AM	#129
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	If a play is released after the trade deadline he is subject to wavers.

11-23-2005, 11:55 AM	#130
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Dola And players with less then 4 years of service.

11-23-2005, 11:56 AM	#131
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	This could help my fantasy team when I reach the playoffs!! __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

11-23-2005, 12:47 PM	#134
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	Sal Pal just came on and said that the Eagles won totally - the Four game suspension and deactiviating him for the year are both within the Eagles rights. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

11-23-2005, 03:49 PM	#135
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	I suppose the sole purpose of hiding him on the roster the rest of the year is just to keep him away from a potential playoff opponent. The Eagles may just release him once they're out of playoff contention anyway. They would have zero luck trading him prior to next season because of the roster bonus. And I don't really see them competing for a playoff spot without a healthy McNabb.

11-24-2005, 01:03 AM	#138
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

11-24-2005, 01:19 AM	#140
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	dola, there are a lot of people who appear to have feeling of schadenfreude here - not surprising, but still dissappointing.

11-24-2005, 03:24 AM	#141
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Umm i released him in the euro fofc fantasy and somebody picked him so fast, maybe i was to fast releasing him. If i were the Eagels i would keep him in the team, but would play him only as olinemen in blowouts to taste the strong guys. Btw, i know it's stupid but i'm curious now, would that be possible? has the team the rights to play him where they want? can he refuse? what happends if he does? Last edited by Icy : 11-24-2005 at 03:27 AM.

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