Man On Fire

Chief Rum · 01-23-2005, 08:31 PM

I just rented and watched this movie, because when it came out I thought it might be good and it got good reviews.

Still, it was more of a toss on after getting The Village and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (planning to watch the latter tonight).

So I was pleasantly surprised that this Denzel flick is one very powerful and emotional film. It's also brutally violent, but I thought it was extremely well done and felt "real" (which is hard to do for this sort of movie, because it comes down to a shoot-em-up sorta thing).

Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had caught this and what they thought of it.

CR

kingfc22 · 01-23-2005, 08:33 PM

I really enjoyed the movie and yes it is very brutal at times.

FBPro · 01-23-2005, 08:36 PM

Yes, quite a good flick. Saw it at the theatre but still enjoyed it.

Joe · 01-23-2005, 08:37 PM

yeah, two thumbs up on that one

Ragone · 01-23-2005, 08:46 PM

Figured this was a thread about Deion Branch

Qwikshot · 01-23-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W Bush

yeah, two thumbs up on that one

"I wish...I wish you had more time."

This movie wasn't that great. In fact, it's a remake. Scott Glenn was in the original.

I don't get how they could say Mexico City is a beautiful place when they make it out to be a den of corruption and violence.

Lots of stereotypical characters here, and cliche-ridden.

Walken is good as usual.

And what the hell was up with the ending when they have an "In Memoriam", what is this a true story?

I think for an action movie it's okay, but I just felt the plot had been done to death...

On a side note, I watched "Lone Wolf McQuade", now that's a masterpiece in unintentional comedy.

Sun Tzu · 01-23-2005, 08:54 PM

I thought it was pretty good. Not as awesome as some of my buddies made it out to be when they mentioned it to me. I made sure to watch it with no expectations though. On a scale of 1-10 I'd give it a high 6.

Chief Rum · 01-23-2005, 08:59 PM

Yeah, Qwikshot, I discovered most of that after looking around to see if the story was real (given the "hints" at the end).

I found out about the Scott Glenn movie, and that that was based on a book written about a similar situation in the 70s in Italy. Not sure how much of it was true from real life-->book-->first movie--->Man on Fire, but clearly the specifiics (Mexico, the date, John Creasy, etc.) didn't actually exist as represented. Whatever they were copied from, though, for all I know might be reasonably accurate.

Personally, I have never understood what the big gripe is about stereotypical characters. For one thing, there is a reason why characters like this exist--because there are generally people like that who actually exist. I'm not talking super heroes, but regular people commonly represented in these things (criminals, cops, elite soldiers, etc.). Sure, no soldier out there is likely exactly like Arnold in The Predator, but I would bet there are some serious badass muthaf... in the special forces, and they can do a lot of stuff you see in these movies.

So I have learned to ignore stuff like this and just enjoy the movie as the entertainment it's meant to be, and not worry about how accurate a stereotype is, or that they come across that way.

CR

P.S. I thought the tahnking of Mexico City and calling ti a beautiful place was pretty funny, too, in retrospect.

PilotMan · 01-23-2005, 09:13 PM

I liked the movie, but I was dissapointed that there wasn't more brutal violence. It was a little soft and I wanted more ass kicking.

BigPapi · 01-23-2009, 01:30 PM

Just re-watched this movie again last night.....Definitely in my top 10- Denzel played this perfectly IMO. Sure it's a bit stereotypical, but there are few movies I've enjoyed more, however, than this one for dishing out vigilante justice. Waffling about the political correctness of the film definitely wasn't a subject of much debate here....And for as outlandish as the general theme was, the movie never seemed beyond plausible.

One other thing that really struck was how powerful and influential the movie's musical score was on me- almost in every scene. Lot's of classic lines in here as well; I love Walken's "Creasy's art is death....And he's about to paint his masterpiece"

DaddyTorgo · 02-06-2009, 10:43 AM

still never seen this movie

01-23-2005, 08:33 PM	#2
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01-23-2005, 08:36 PM	#3
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	Yes, quite a good flick. Saw it at the theatre but still enjoyed it. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

01-23-2005, 08:54 PM	#7
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Stuck in Folsom Prison	I thought it was pretty good. Not as awesome as some of my buddies made it out to be when they mentioned it to me. I made sure to watch it with no expectations though. On a scale of 1-10 I'd give it a high 6. __________________ I'm back, this time with 20% more bacon!

01-23-2005, 08:59 PM	#8
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Yeah, Qwikshot, I discovered most of that after looking around to see if the story was real (given the "hints" at the end). I found out about the Scott Glenn movie, and that that was based on a book written about a similar situation in the 70s in Italy. Not sure how much of it was true from real life-->book-->first movie--->Man on Fire, but clearly the specifiics (Mexico, the date, John Creasy, etc.) didn't actually exist as represented. Whatever they were copied from, though, for all I know might be reasonably accurate. Personally, I have never understood what the big gripe is about stereotypical characters. For one thing, there is a reason why characters like this exist--because there are generally people like that who actually exist. I'm not talking super heroes, but regular people commonly represented in these things (criminals, cops, elite soldiers, etc.). Sure, no soldier out there is likely exactly like Arnold in The Predator, but I would bet there are some serious badass muthaf... in the special forces, and they can do a lot of stuff you see in these movies. So I have learned to ignore stuff like this and just enjoy the movie as the entertainment it's meant to be, and not worry about how accurate a stereotype is, or that they come across that way. CR P.S. I thought the tahnking of Mexico City and calling ti a beautiful place was pretty funny, too, in retrospect. __________________ . . On this subject I do not wish to think, or speak, or write, with moderation. No! no! Tell a man whose house is on fire, to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen; but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest--I will not equivocate--I will not excuse--I will not retreat a single inch-- AND I WILL BE HEARD!!! Last edited by Chief Rum : 01-23-2005 at 08:59 PM.

01-23-2005, 09:13 PM	#9
PilotMan Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I liked the movie, but I was dissapointed that there wasn't more brutal violence. It was a little soft and I wanted more ass kicking. __________________ Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Need an FOFC Alternative? Try the forum over in the FOFC Steam group. Look under discussions for the FOFC Steam Edition sub-forum. You have to be a member to see it and it should be the default forum for the group. Direct link to the group above or Google FOFConSteam.

01-23-2005, 08:37 PM	#4
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	yeah, two thumbs up on that one

01-23-2005, 08:46 PM	#5
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Figured this was a thread about Deion Branch

01-23-2009, 01:30 PM	#10
BigPapi n00b Join Date: Feb 2007	Just re-watched this movie again last night.....Definitely in my top 10- Denzel played this perfectly IMO. Sure it's a bit stereotypical, but there are few movies I've enjoyed more, however, than this one for dishing out vigilante justice. Waffling about the political correctness of the film definitely wasn't a subject of much debate here....And for as outlandish as the general theme was, the movie never seemed beyond plausible. One other thing that really struck was how powerful and influential the movie's musical score was on me- almost in every scene. Lot's of classic lines in here as well; I love Walken's "Creasy's art is death....And he's about to paint his masterpiece"

02-06-2009, 10:43 AM	#11
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	still never seen this movie

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