1967-68 Offseason Thread (Preseason 1968 file is up!)

[Young Drachma]

(all exports are due at 10pm eastern time)
Monday: Last chance to resign your own players, Sim to start of free agency
Tues night: Sim to December 1st (Trade window begins from tonight's sim)
Wednesday night: Sim to pre-season, Draft lists available. (March 1st)
Thursday night: Trade deadline, Draft is conducted, Run Spring Training (no fatigue on), sim to opening day (trade window ends)
Friday night: Last chance to export (set lineups/depth charts, last chance to export before start of new season)
Saturday-Sunday: Season simmed.

[Chief Rum]

I find it really interesting that, as of this post, perhaps the most dominant offensive force on the planet is still unsigned to an extension for next year.

[Cringer]

I wonder how a guy would do jumping up from A ball to the majors as a starting pitcher? I may find out this year, at least in spring training. SP Pepe Santana seems to have improved a little.

[Alan T]

I wonder how a guy would do jumping up from A ball to the majors as a starting pitcher? I may find out this year, at least in spring training. SP Pepe Santana seems to have improved a little.

If his ratings and abilities are good enough, he should be fine. Check out Carlos Gonzales on my team, he is a starting pitcher that went from HS to AAA. I debated about throwing him into the majors though at the time. His AAA season was a bit rocky, but this year he was an all star at age 20.

I had another guy Sam Harmon (catcher now plays for Compton) that I did something similar with. Went directly from college to the pros, never played in the minors. His first two years were passable but nothing great, but this year for Compton was his break out year and he played well..

So if your guy has good enough ratings, it might be worth a shot for you at least.

[Commo_Soldier]

Congrats Allpro! On a side note do certain boxscore links not appear for you? Every boxscore I click on is a 1966 box score not 1967. In addition I noticed a player was signed by Compton in my news but it said he was happy to go to St. Louis? Just some oddities I thought I would see if I am alone in experiencing them or if others see the same things.

[Cringer]

If his ratings and abilities are good enough, he should be fine. Check out Carlos Gonzales on my team, he is a starting pitcher that went from HS to AAA. I debated about throwing him into the majors though at the time. His AAA season was a bit rocky, but this year he was an all star at age 20.

I had another guy Sam Harmon (catcher now plays for Compton) that I did something similar with. Went directly from college to the pros, never played in the minors. His first two years were passable but nothing great, but this year for Compton was his break out year and he played well..

So if your guy has good enough ratings, it might be worth a shot for you at least.

I might give it a shot, spring training is locked in for the guy for sure at the least. My #5 starter was a rookie who isn't living up to expectations since I signed him a few years back now. I was thinking of dropping him down to AAA and bringing up another rookie for the 5 slot. This guy night as well get a shot. Pepe Santana dominated at A in '67, with an 18-2 record, 1.42 ERA, 24 walks to 202 Ks and an OAVG of .169, so the guy is at the least starting in AAA. Three 'green' ratings have me wanting him in the majors though.

[Young Drachma]

Catching exports and processing the start of free agency file. It's time for another off-season of FOOL action!

[Tellistto]

Goodbye Hideaka Tanaka. New York will miss you.

Tell

[Young Drachma]

It's awards time!

1967 FOOL AWARD WINNERS
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CONTINENTAL LEAGUE MVP: Rick Inman, Valdosta
2nd place: Tyler Reilly, Rio Grande
3rd place: Edgardo Reyes, Valdosta

REPUBLIC LEAGUE MVP: Andy Nolan, Hartford
2nd place: Juan Rodriguez, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Riley Hollis, El Paso

REPUBLIC LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Pancho Duran, Ann Arbor
2nd place: Alberto Vargo, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Walt Withcombe, Colorado

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Tom Williams, Baltimore
2nd place: Joe Morris, Texas
3rd place: Bryan Hughes, Valdosta

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: SP Carlos Gonzales, Valdosta
2nd place: Connor Daniels, Rio Grande
3rd place: Luke Parker, Rio Grande

REPUBLIC LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Henry McKinney, Compton
2nd place: Jorge Lopez, Boston
3rd place: Pat Maddox, Boston

[Young Drachma]

Uploading the file now. Sorry that I again forgot to include the entire seasons' worth of box scores. I turn off All during the off-season to reduce file size and forgot to turn it on in a mad dash to get you all the file. But all the box scores and such alike are all there now.

In any case, file is going up now and you should get all of your messages and whatever else coming to you for major league type things, for the offseason that is upon us.

Happy Free Agent Day!

[Young Drachma]

File is 43.45MB and it's online. Dated October 21, 1967. Tomorrow, we sim to December 1st.

[Young Drachma]

There are some pretty big names on the market this year. Probably the "biggest" free agent market we've seen ever. Should be interesting where the chips fall and who gets where and how it helps them, I'd say.

[muns]

Just another rant that screams I have no idea what the hell im doing. 3 out of the 4 top free agents are or were from hartford this year........

[muns]

Goodbye Hideaka Tanaka. New York will miss you.

Tell

Tell just out of curiosity what was he asking from you?

[muns]

It's awards time!

1967 FOOL AWARD WINNERS
----
CONTINENTAL LEAGUE MVP: Rick Inman, Valdosta
2nd place: Tyler Reilly, Rio Grande
3rd place: Edgardo Reyes, Valdosta

REPUBLIC LEAGUE MVP: Andy Nolan, Hartford
2nd place: Juan Rodriguez, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Riley Hollis, El Paso

REPUBLIC LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Pancho Duran, Ann Arbor
2nd place: Alberto Vargo, Ann Arbor
3rd place: Walt Withcombe, Colorado

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE PITCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD: Tom Williams, Baltimore
2nd place: Joe Morris, Texas
3rd place: Bryan Hughes, Valdosta

CONTINENTAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: SP Carlos Gonzales, Valdosta
2nd place: Connor Daniels, Rio Grande
3rd place: Luke Parker, Rio Grande

REPUBLIC LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: Henry McKinney, Compton
2nd place: Jorge Lopez, Boston
3rd place: Pat Maddox, Boston


DC you do these, or did the AI do them? Pretty solid choices IMO...... Nolan gets his second straight MVP for Hartford

[Young Drachma]

I did everything except the rookie of the year, since it was my guy that got picked for the RL, even though he was probably the top choice, I let the AI decide on that one and they picked him, so I let it stand. But I picked the rest, because the AI values VORP much too highly and doesn't pick using "real" eyes, etc.

And I never picked the Best Nine, because I'm too lazy to bother.

[gstelmack]

Glad to see Lopez and Maddox in the running for rookie of the year. The young guys really stepped up last season, and now they've got a year under their belt. My SS Osario in particular, who hit .205 for the season last year, was hitting .250 in August and September...

[muns]

Glad to see Lopez and Maddox in the running for rookie of the year. The young guys really stepped up last season, and now they've got a year under their belt. My SS Osario in particular, who hit .205 for the season last year, was hitting .250 in August and September...

I love what you have done with the young guys, you have shaped yourself up and are looking quite nice this offseason IMO

[Tellistto]

Tell just out of curiosity what was he asking from you?

He asked for a three year deal worth 15.51 million per. I wouldn't give it to him.

Of course he's only asking for 10 mil over 6 years now. Just find it interesting that the best rated hitter on the market is only valueing himself at 10 mil a season, given that he was making 15.48 the season before.

Tell

[Young Drachma]

My take is that he's the best player in the game and that he's still got some years left in him, but you have to wonder about the later years of that deal and how he'll hold up.

Strange too, is how many young catchers we have floating around the league. I remember when there were none and now it seems everybody seems to have one.

But he's a difference maker and with the DH finally showing up in RL land, he could surely make someone a contender with his bat.

[muns]

He asked for a three year deal worth 15.51 million per. I wouldn't give it to him.

Of course he's only asking for 10 mil over 6 years now. Just find it interesting that the best rated hitter on the market is only valueing himself at 10 mil a season, given that he was making 15.48 the season before.

Tell

That does seem cheap, but I doubt its gonna be in the 10-12 range that gets him. Gonna be real interested to see who takes the plunge on him and for how many years

[Young Drachma]

With less than 30 minutes to go before we kick off the free agency period (I'm eager!), I gotta say that this got to be the Golden Age in FOOL. Never before have we had so many teams who are 1) thinking they're in the race or 2) positioning themselves to be competitive. It's really a fun and exciting situation for the league.

Next year will be great as we finally get our scheduling situation intact, too, because I'm intrigued to see how the new leagues shape up and how the league is affected by the DH, etc.

Should be awesome.

[Chief Rum]

Can I get a couple minutes? I have been running the WW game nonstop, so I haven't been able to finish my bids. Will only take a few minutes at most.

[Young Drachma]

::looks at clock::

[Chief Rum]

::looks at clock::

Exported. Thanks.

[Young Drachma]

Alright kids..it's gametime. Time to check the dust from the most exciting offseason yet!

[Young Drachma]

Here are some of the deals I've seen so far:

Will Thompson, 2B, (LBI) signed a 2-year deal worth $3.14 million with Compton.

Raleigh Wildridge, RF (Compton) signed a 2 year deal worth $3.28 million with Ann Arbor

[JetsIn06]

Had to stay out of FA this year because of the trade I made, but I'm very happy with my starting pitching now.

[Young Drachma]

I'll consummate that Hartford/Seattle trade too, since I'm here.

[Commo_Soldier]

So anyone willing to admit who their #1 target was? Mine was Joe Morris, I have a feeling many are looking for SP's unfortunately :(

[Alan T]

Had to stay out of FA this year because of the trade I made, but I'm very happy with my starting pitching now.


Same here, I was pretty much near cap space.. so put out some small offers, but no big splashes. I guess for the most part I'll be returning roughly the same team next year. As not many people seem to need starting pitching to trade for either.

[Young Drachma]

Seattle trade processed. Now at $64.1 million in payroll


John Donovan, LF (CPT) signed a 4 year deal worth $31.74 million with El Paso

Joe Morris, SP (TEX) signed a 7 year deal worth $96.41 million with Compton

Todd King, MR (CPT) signed a 3 year deal worth $3.255 million with Baltimore

[Young Drachma]

Juan Nunez (HAR) signed a 5 year deal worth $42.5 million with Colorado

Mike McBridge (CTN) signed a 2 year deal worth $7.55 million with Baltimore

Alonso Margo (CGO) signed a 4 year deal worth $16.67 million with Baltimore

[Commo_Soldier]

Same here, I was pretty much near cap space.. so put out some small offers, but no big splashes. I guess for the most part I'll be returning roughly the same team next year. As not many people seem to need starting pitching to trade for either.

I am in desparate need of SP my top guy is 2 1/2 stars.

[Young Drachma]

Here's the biggun:


Teruo Miyahara, 3B (International) signed a 6 year deal worth $86 million with Colorado

[Commo_Soldier]

Seattle trade processed. Now at $64.1 million in payroll


John Donovan, LF (CPT) signed a 4 year deal worth $31.74 million with El Paso

Joe Morris, SP (TEX) signed a 7 year deal worth $96.41 million with Compton

Todd King, MR (CPT) signed a 3 year deal worth $3.255 million with Baltimore

Dang you Compton

[muns]

Juan Nunez (HAR) signed a 5 year deal worth $42.5 million with Colorado

Mike McBridge (CTN) signed a 2 year deal worth $7.55 million with Baltimore

Alonso Margo (CGO) signed a 4 year deal worth $16.67 million with Baltimore

Good sign for Colorado, Nunez is a beast, i had to let him go cause I couldnt afford 5 mil per season with my payroll...... real sad to see him leave Hartford

[Young Drachma]

Hideaki Tanaka, C (NYH) signed a 6 year deal worth $57.87 million with Rio Grande

[muns]

Here's the biggun:


Teruo Miyahara, 3B (International) signed a 6 year deal worth $86 million with Colorado

That guy is a beast as well....... sigh....... Colorado is looking damn good right now, and that was BEFORE FA!!!!!!!

[Young Drachma]

Uploading the file now. Looks like Colorado is serious, Baltimore is making a run for it and well....the rest we can see for ourselves. What a start!

[Young Drachma]

Gotta say (file is packing...) that Colorado made some shrewd moves to burnish what they're hoping is a run at the RL title this year. Really smart to give a kid that young a deal like that, get the good years out of 'em and then get rid of 'em. Really shrewd. I think paying a middle reliever as much as they did was strange, but..short of that, smart stuff.

Rio Grande gets the coup getting Tanaka to go south, let's hope that's the only thing that goes south for him.

Gotta say I'm thrilled to have Joe Morris back. I hope that he rewards my faith in him with some strong seasons in LA.

[Young Drachma]

I don't really know who else got signed and the file is packing, so I can't look, but...I wonder if there are other guys out there like Jake Brewer and others. Seems like the teams who have holes should be hitting the trade market as we approach draft day later this week.

The file is 44 MB and is uploading now. (2%)

[Commo_Soldier]

I have a question about the draft. Would it be possible to do our own draft lists in game using the builtin utility for those of us that choose to do so since the list can be auto-complied by scouts or not filled in at all for those not wishing to select their first few rounds.

[Young Drachma]

I have a question about the draft. Would it be possible to do our own draft lists in game using the builtin utility for those of us that choose to do so since the list can be auto-complied by scouts or not filled in at all for those not wishing to select their first few rounds.

Yes, you can do your own draft lists in-game. But not until the draft appears and it won't appear until after the pre-season starts. No matter what, you all will have 24 hours to complete your draft lists before we start the draft, so don't worry about it happening again without at least getting a chance to make sure you get some say in who your team picks.

File is at 38%

[Commo_Soldier]

Yes, you can do your own draft lists in-game. But not until the draft appears and it won't appear until after the pre-season starts. No matter what, you all will have 24 hours to complete your draft lists before we start the draft, so don't worry about it happening again without at least getting a chance to make sure you get some say in who your team picks.

File is at 38%

Ok, I was unsure. I thought it would both appear and be simmed tomorrow evening.

[Young Drachma]

Ok, I was unsure. I thought it would both appear and be simmed tomorrow evening.

Tomorrow evening is when it ought to be revealed. It'd be simmed the night after. I know I think it lists Wednesday night on the schedule, but that's not right, because you all need a night to see the draft pool. So that should say Thursday night. Sorry.

67%

[Young Drachma]

File is up. Marked December 1, 1967.

[allpro10050]

Rio Grande got a bargain on tanaka

[Cringer]

Downloading the file still, but YES!!! I got Tanaka? I love that, he was really the only big name I was going after that I remember, with some of the other stars being at spots where I wanted some youngsters to come up and play.

C though has been a slight pain for me. My starter over several years now has actually played better the last couple of seasons and I have been happy with him but Tanaka is a major upgrade. I started right away trying to bring young guys into the system and so far none have worked out really. Tanaka is a great guy to see sign with the Roadrunners.

[JeeberD]

Ugh...ONE signing after all the offers I made. We're screwed...

Edit: OK, make that two signings.

[Cringer]

Rio Grande got another guy they wanted, MR Justin Barr from CGO. Not a star, but a solid looking guy to help the bullpen.

We also got Juan Navarro who will be interesting to watch and has a good shot at making the major league roster as Jose Rivera runs off to Colorado (of course). Navarro is officially my first (the league's first? or did someone else get one?) player from the vulture league, coming from the Cardinals. Few starts, but good ratings it seems and he ripped it up in the vulture league at 20 years old.

[Chief Rum]

Gotta say (file is packing...) that Colorado made some shrewd moves to burnish what they're hoping is a run at the RL title this year. Really smart to give a kid that young a deal like that, get the good years out of 'em and then get rid of 'em. Really shrewd. I think paying a middle reliever as much as they did was strange, but..short of that, smart stuff.

Nunez END rating 56.

I didn't need another MR. ;)

[Young Drachma]

Alright, processing now.

[Young Drachma]

Walt Withecombe (COL) signed a 1 year deal with Brooklyn worth $7.5 million

Manny Soto (BAL) signed a 3 year deal worth $15.4 million with Atlanta

Jake Brewer (CTN) signed a 5 year deal worth $17.1 million with Atlanta

William Kay (CTN) signed a 5 year deal worth $16.6 million with Atlanta

Theodore Reid resigned with Ann Arbor for a 2 year deal worth $18.5 million

Ray Pearson (ANN) signed a 3 year deal worth $8.2 million with Ann Arbor

Ivan Lopez (LBI) signed a 1 year deal with Brooklyn worth $2.75 million

[muns]

Damnit Commo......... :)

[Commo_Soldier]

Good to see two of my 3 high one year deals went through to burn cap-room.

[Young Drachma]

With this file, you'll see the draft class and also, your schedule for the upcoming season, with things finally back to normal with 22 games against each team in your league. The RL will adopt the designated hitter and the Continental League will continue with out it.

[Young Drachma]

The All-Star game is scheduled for September 16th, the day after the end of the regular season. The game never did a traditional all-star break anyway, so...this is a nice way to end the year before the postseason begins. I'll turn fatigue off for that day and push the FOOL Classic games back a few days in the schedule to ensure that no one gets hurt by their guys playing in the Classic. But this lets the All-Star game become a showcase of the league's best talent, rather than a mid-season afterthought.

[muns]

The All-Star game is scheduled for September 16th, the day after the end of the regular season. The game never did a traditional all-star break anyway, so...this is a nice way to end the year before the postseason begins. I'll turn fatigue off for that day and push the FOOL Classic games back a few days in the schedule to ensure that no one gets hurt by their guys playing in the Classic. But this lets the All-Star game become a showcase of the league's best talent, rather than a mid-season afterthought.

love the decision dc.

[Young Drachma]

Packing and uploading now. Just wanted to make sure I didn't screw anything up.

[Young Drachma]

Rio Grande got another guy they wanted, MR Justin Barr from CGO. Not a star, but a solid looking guy to help the bullpen.

We also got Juan Navarro who will be interesting to watch and has a good shot at making the major league roster as Jose Rivera runs off to Colorado (of course). Navarro is officially my first (the league's first? or did someone else get one?) player from the vulture league, coming from the Cardinals. Few starts, but good ratings it seems and he ripped it up in the vulture league at 20 years old.

Colorado got the first kid from the VL, a Japanese starlet who played for the Royals last year. Third baseman. He's an absolute stud. We'll all remember his name real soon, I bet.

[Young Drachma]

Atlanta's signings are like a who's who of past FOOL All-Stars. If nothing else, the fans of the city will get to see some of the better guys who've played the game, as they all look to get their chance to capture past glory.

File is at 32%

The RL is gonna be brutal. I think both leagues will be tight this year in the standings, as the better teams didn't make a ton of whole sale moves, but lots of other teams have some younger players getting better or have made moves to keep pace.

Should be crazy to see what the year is gonna look like when the dust settles.

[Young Drachma]

Preseason file is up!

[Alan T]

Bryan Hughes signs what could be his last contract to finish his career with Valdosta at a hometown bargain price. Fellow future Hall of Famer Matt Wood did the same, albeit not for a bargain price, he just renewed at the existing rate.

[Young Drachma]

Bryan Hughes signs what could be his last contract to finish his career with Valdosta at a hometown bargain price. Fellow future Hall of Famer Matt Wood did the same, albeit not for a bargain price, he just renewed at the existing rate.

I remember when Hughes began his career in Gary and we were battling with them during my St. Louis days for titles. It's good to see him having had such success in his career, especially when you almost lost him in the expansion draft a few years ago. ;)

For sure first ballot HoFer I'd think for Hughes. I'd expect to see their numbers retired in Valdosta too, yes?

[Alan T]

I remember when Hughes began his career in Gary and we were battling with them during my St. Louis days for titles. It's good to see him having had such success in his career, especially when you almost lost him in the expansion draft a few years ago. ;)

For sure first ballot HoFer I'd think for Hughes. I'd expect to see their numbers retired in Valdosta too, yes?


Most definitely!

[muns]

I remember when Hughes began his career in Gary and we were battling with them during my St. Louis days for titles. It's good to see him having had such success in his career, especially when you almost lost him in the expansion draft a few years ago. ;)

For sure first ballot HoFer I'd think for Hughes. I'd expect to see their numbers retired in Valdosta too, yes?

Which brings me to a question. Can we all vote on the hall?

[Young Drachma]

Which brings me to a question. Can we all vote on the hall?

Yes, we will post the player for consideration here and then we'll all vote. It'll take a majority of the votes cast -- with at least 9 owners voting -- to induct someone into the hall.

Dunno if we wanna have a waiting period of a few years or not.

I'll serve as the Hall of Fame museum for the purposes of deciding what hat a player goes into the Hall with, though it'll be pretty easy for most of our longer term guys. And yes, I know how to get the jerseys on them after their retire and to freeze it so they "look their best" befitting a Hall of Fame plaque.

[muns]

Thats a pretty sweet feature. I had no idea we could do that.

[Young Drachma]

Thats a pretty sweet feature. I had no idea we could do that.

Not really a feature in the traditional sense. What I end up doing is, putting the guy on a minor league team and changing their logo to fit that of the major league club, so the guy can wear it for his induction and freeze the picture and then put him off their roster and he stays retired throughout. More like a "loophole."

[muns]

sigh....... why I thought that it was something easy and simple for ootp to do, that involved you not doing anywork is beyond me

[muns]

holy crap i have like 45 guys becoming FA's.... new rules bring tougher choices, this is crazy

[Alan T]

holy crap i have like 45 guys becoming FA's.... new rules bring tougher choices, this is crazy

Yikes, that is pretty bad :) I have like 10-12 guys to resign now (I already resigned a handful last sim). The majority of my guys now though are older minor league players that are getting near put up or shut up time though so likely won't get resigned. I like having people become minor league free agents at this age instead of closer to 30 personally!

[Young Drachma]

Ok, doing the spring training/pre-season tandem file now. Processing it and then uploading it. You all will have until Saturday at noon to get me the file. I don't know for sure that I'll have wireless internet this weekend after tomorrow, so...I'll say that the season will get run sometime on Sunday, but when I'm not certain yet, but if I can get somewhere to do it Saturday night, I will.

But you'll have all of Friday to get me your file, it won't be due at 10pm.