Werewolf LXII -- The BCS (Racer and Swaggs win)

[Racer]

To that end, who is supposed to be scanning my conference? Shouldn't they have scanned me by now to verify?

I don't care much whether you are a good guy or a wolf honestly. You make your conference very dangerous to the other three conferences. My conference loses if either the wolves win or another conference wins. So either way, you're a threat. I changed my vote solely because I'd rather vote for Molson then have the vote be "no sanctions".

[Alan T]

By the way, there's been no talk about the Catholic thing that came up at the end of day 3. Anyone have thoughts on that?

I would say don't knock it until you try it!

[chesapeake]

Since I was too lazy to count the votes earlier. I'm not a wolf guys, I"m a lobbyist.

Uh oh. I know many, many lobbyists. Wolves, every one. ;)

[chesapeake]

I would say don't knock it until you try it!

I went through 18 years of that. Never again!

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll

1. jeheinz72
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. Lathum
3. Buffalo State Bengals (RendeR)
5. Mr. Wednesday

(I might have made a mistake up there -- feel free to check my math if you're so inclined)

Private Poll
1. Lathum
2. Chief Rum
3. Notre Dame (Alan T)
3. path12
5. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)

[Lathum]

ZING!!!

I didn't even vote in the private poll/

[st.cronin]

Do you feel the love?

[path12]

Dola, and either nobody took my advice to look at claphamsa, or they're not talking if they did.

I'm not giving out who I'm scanning until I come up with a concrete result -- but I am scanning your conference.

I would hope the other scouts are focusing on the other conferences, including mine.

[path12]

I went through 18 years of that. Never again!

+eleventy billion! My guilt complexes have guilt complexes.

[Passacaglia]

Day 4 Matchups

Racer vs. Team 49
SnDvls vs. Team 40
st.cronin vs. Team 40
Swaggs vs. Team 45
Chief Rum vs. Team 30
Alan T vs. Team 42
claphamsa vs. Team 45
Barkeep49 vs. molson
chesapeake vs. Team 40
Lathum vs. Team 50
RendeR vs. Team 75
ntndeacon vs. Team 60
path12 vs. Team 88
Mr. Wednesday vs. Team 35
jeheinz72 vs. Team 72
Anxiety vs. Team 80

[Passacaglia]

Day 4 Results

Racer DEFEATS Team 49
SnDvls DEFEATS Team 40
st.cronin LOSES TO Team 40
Swaggs DEFEATS Team 45
Chief Rum LOSES TO Team 30
Alan T DEFEATS Team 42
claphamsa LOSES TO Team 45
Barkeep49 DEFEATS molson
chesapeake LOSES TO Team 40
Lathum LOSES TO Team 50
RendeR LOSES TO Team 75
ntndeacon LOSES TO Team 60
path12 LOSES TO Team 88
Mr. Wednesday DEFEATS Team 35
jeheinz72 LOSES TO Team 72
Anxiety LOSES TO Team 80

[Passacaglia]

COMPUTER POLL

1. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer) 189
2. Mr. Wednesday 185
3. Univrsity Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake) 150
4. MD superkittens (claphamsa) 140
5. jeheinz72 125
6. U of BK Drones (Barkeep49) 115
7. Chief Rum 105
8. Swaggs 93
9. ntndeacon 90
10. Notre Dame (Alan T) 82
11. Lathum 68
12. St. Cronin's University Blue Man Group (st.cronin) 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Boone County Vocational Technical Institute (Anxiety) 23
16. path12 -10
16. Buffalo State Bengals (RendeR) -10

[Passacaglia]

BCS POLL

1. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
2. jeheinz72
2. Lathum
4. Mr. Wednesday
5. Chief Rum
5. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer)

[st.cronin]

Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

[Passacaglia]

Day 5
-------
Mr. Wednesday vs. ntndeacon
claphamsa vs. st.cronin
RendeR vs. SnDvls
Anxiety vs. jeheinz72
chesapeake vs. molson
Lathum vs. path12
Racer vs. Chief Rum
Barkeep49 vs. Swaggs

Day 6
------
Mr. Wednesday vs. claphamsa
ntndeacon vs. st.cronin
Anxiety vs. SnDvls
RendeR vs. jeheinz72
chesapeake vs. path12
Lathum vs. molson
Racer vs. Barkeep49
Chief Rum vs. Swaggs

Day 7
-------
Mr. Wednesday vs. st.cronin
claphamsa vs. ntndeacon
SnDvls vs. jeheinz72
Anxiety vs. RendeR
Lathum vs. chesapeake
path12 vs. molson
Racer vs. Swaggs
Chief Rum vs. Barkeep 49

[jeheinz72]

Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

Yeah, my conference officially has no shot now

[Passacaglia]

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
---------
claphamsa 0-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-0
ntndeacon 0-0
st.cronin 0-0
Tiebreaker: head to head, overall record, coin flip

Four Horsemen Conference
--------
Anxiety 0-0
jeheinnz72 0-0
RendeR 0-0
SnDvls 0-0
Tiebreaker: Head to head, Overall, Powerpoints

Sorry Excuse for Coaches (SEC) Conference
------------------
chesapeake 0-0
Lathum 0-0
molson 0-0
path12 0-0
Conference Championship: 1 vs. 2
Tiebreaker: head to head, overall, powerpoints

Big 3
-----
Barkeep49 0-0
Cheif Rum 0-0
Racer 0-0
Swaggs 0-0
Conference Championship: 1 vs. 2
Tiebreaker: head to head, powerpoints, overall record, powerpoints of opponents, coin flip

[Passacaglia]

Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.

whoops -- molson won the vote, didn't he? Fixed.

[Passacaglia]

BCS Poll is fixed, too. With that, I think we're set for Day 5.

[Passacaglia]

I'll be checking in off and on for a little while before I go, though. Let me know if anything looks amiss.

[SnDvls]

so If I'm caculating things right path & RendeR have no shot at winnnig a league game right?

if RendeR (-10) plays Anxiety (23)

Anxiety has a 1.76 chance to win and RendeR has a -.76 chance to win

or am I way off here?

[Passacaglia]

so If I'm caculating things right path & RendeR have no shot at winnnig a league game right?

if RendeR (-10) plays Anxiety (23)

Anxiety has a 1.76 chance to win and RendeR has a -.76 chance to win

or am I way off here?

Negative powerpoints are treated like zero, when calculating win-loss. Yes, unless Anxiety throws the game, RendeR will not win.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wow, jeheinz lost about 100 power points.
If by "about 100" you mean 50, yes.

I haven't looked at Molson yet, but I'd guess a lobbyist moved the sanctions.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, er, or maybe all 50 sabotage points got put on him, which would be kinda an odd thing to do unless the bad guys are really desperate.

[path12]

I can definitively say that the detractor seer is in the Transylvania conference. I have scanned all four teams (who all lost the day they were scanned I believe, but I'll check that again to make sure) and no detractor was found.

[RendeR]

Claphamsa is NOT a detractor. According to my scan last night.

[RendeR]

I'l apologize to everyone again, this week has been hell at work and I've been a terrible terrible player. Missed 2 scans and forgot to put in orders at least once.

Bleh, sorry guys.

[path12]

Claphamsa is NOT a detractor. According to my scan last night.

Still could be, see my above post. I scanned him last night also.

[Mr. Wednesday]

st.cronin is the avowed scout in our conference. If we assume that the role is the same regardless of whether the individual is a wolf or normal, and if we trust your results, then that would make cronin the detractor.

[Passacaglia]

If by "about 100" you mean 50, yes.

I haven't looked at Molson yet, but I'd guess a lobbyist moved the sanctions.

That was my fault -- it was 100 before I fixed an error.

[path12]

st.cronin is the avowed scout in our conference. If we assume that the role is the same regardless of whether the individual is a wolf or normal, and if we trust your results, then that would make cronin the detractor.

Actually, cronin was my top suspect just going by gut off of his posts. The order your conference was scanned was: ntn, Mr W, cronin and clapham. All results came back not a detractor.

[Mr. Wednesday]

And I'm assuming that you scanned cronin on day 3, because he won on day 1 and day 2.

[path12]

Dola, apparently not all the scouts have been scouting every day. I think we're at the point going into conference play where we need to get our results out there such as they are.

[path12]

And I'm assuming that you scanned cronin on day 3, because he won on day 1 and day 2.

Correct.

[ntndeacon]

Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

[Passacaglia]

Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

Thanks. Fixed.

[SnDvls]

Pass you have claphamsa playing st. cronin twice. I assume the second day I should play him.

his team is so good he gets to play St. C & Mr. W on the same day at the same time ;)

[ntndeacon]

his team is so good he gets to play St. C & Mr. W on the same day at the same time ;)

that is fine as long as I can get half his points :D

[chesapeake]

How did BK earn 35 points by losing to molson? He would have gained that if he had won.

[chesapeake]

Also, by my count, Alan T should be at 82 points instead of 72 and Sndvls at 30 instead of 40.

[Passacaglia]

How did BK earn 35 points by losing to molson? He would have gained that if he had won.

That was my fault, too. Barkeep49 won that game.

[claphamsa]

This sucks, I lost to computers twice :( I mean team 40 was supposed to be a pushover!

[Passacaglia]

Also, by my count, Alan T should be at 82 points instead of 72 and Sndvls at 30 instead of 40.

Right on both counts. Sorry about all these mistakes, guys -- today has been a crazy day for me, starting with the fact that I left my spreadsheet on my work computer! These are both fixed -- luckily it doesn't change the computer rankings -- everyone stays in the same order.

[Passacaglia]

Okay, I'm out. Have a good weekend, all! If my PM box is full, my e-mail address is agage1 AT gmail DOT com

[Chief Rum]

Man, I lost to Team 30? That sucks!

You know, it would be fun to know the rolls in the honest games. I hope Pass is keeping track. That way, I know if I erred too far in going with 30 instead of 25 let's say (a decision I made last night), or if I was screwed no matter what (roll came up, like, 2, or something).

[st.cronin]

updated standings in a format I understand:

conf #1:

Chesapeake 2-2 (150)
Lathum 2-2 (68)
Molson 2-2 (55)
path12 0-4 (-10)

conf #2
Mr.Wednesday 3-1 (185)
Claphamsa 2-2 (140)
Ntndeacon 1-3 (90)
St.Cronin 2-2 (62)

conf #3
Racer 3-1 (189)
Barkeep 2-1 (115)
Chief Rum 2-2 (105)
Swaggs 2-1 (93)

conf #4
Jeheinz72 2-2 (125)
Sndvls 1-3 (30)
Anxiety 1-3 (23)
Render 0-4 (-10)

Alan T 2-2 (82)

[st.cronin]

dola, I am not a detractor.

[chesapeake]

I think we've found the wolf scout, St. Cronin, and equipment manager, Molson, leaving the lobbyist and saboteur still at large.

[chesapeake]

Rumours from South Bend indicate that new coach Alan T has instituted his gameplan for longterm success. Teams from across the country are being recruited to join a new Catholic Conference, whose headquarters would lie in South Bend, chaired by Alan T himself. Word is that the Irish are in talks with several coaches, and as many as 3 major powers could be "converting" to the Catholic Conference. Financial experts speculate that in order to succeed in establishing the conference, the money provided by the BCS to the at-large team would be required.

Starting now, when a scout throws the game, he must specify if he wants to learn whether or not the team he's scouting is a Catholic, or a detractor.

We've essentially ignored this for a day, but we need to start trying to identify the Catholics. And it is about time, if you ask me. Would it make sense for our seers to start with scanning folks with 100+ PPs? I would think that those teams would be the most likely to end up with the at-large berth.

[Barkeep49]

Basically we now have a second group of bad guys to worry about, as I see it. And we're far behind finding out who they might be than the initial wolves.

[Racer]

I think we've found the wolf scout, St. Cronin, and equipment manager, Molson, leaving the lobbyist and saboteur still at large.

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

[Racer]

By the way, if Molson and St. Cronin are indeed detractors, I would suggest scanning Barkeep or Chief Rum in my conference. I am the equipment manager and Swaggs is the scout (the same roles as Molson and St. Cronin).

[Passacaglia]

Man, I lost to Team 30? That sucks!

You know, it would be fun to know the rolls in the honest games. I hope Pass is keeping track. That way, I know if I erred too far in going with 30 instead of 25 let's say (a decision I made last night), or if I was screwed no matter what (roll came up, like, 2, or something).

I plan to publish my spreadsheet after the game is over, which has this info, including what your roll would have been for games that were thrown.

[Passacaglia]

By the way, I'm back! :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

With respect to Molson, I didn't remember that we had raised serious questions about dectractor status, rather that it was a situation where there was a risk of getting the at-large bid by an unknown. I'll have to go back at some point and see if something more definitive was offered.

[Chief Rum]

My usual public vote post before leaving for the day.

Public Poll

1. Chief Rum
2. Racer
3. Barkeep
4. Swaggs
5. Render

and for sanctions...

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

He has the most points of the at larges; might as well bring him back to the pack.

Since the schedule is set, I assume I don't have to announce who I am playing or nothing.

[Alan T]

Hmm.. looks to me that Racer has the most power points, I am sure that has to do with some form of inappropriate contributions from alumni!

Vote Racer

Since everyone is too scared to play me, guess I will play a different team..

Schedule team 39

[molson]

PUBLIC POLL

1. Chesapeake
2. Lathum
3. Molson
4. Racer
5. Mr. Wednesday

[Racer]

I've looked through the thread and from what I can tell, Molson is suspected to be a wolf because Lathum has been cleared and Alan T (now path12) and Chesapeake have contributed more in this thread. Is that correct?

Anyways, below are the teams Chesapeake, Molson, Path12, and St Cronin scheduled in their non-conference schedule.

Molson - Racer (loss), team 40 (win), Team 65 (win), Barkeep (loss) * only week 4 game scheduled between 2 humans
Path12 - Team 50 (loss), team 35 (loss), Team 20 (loss), team 88 (loss)
Chesapeake - Jeheinz (loss), Anxiety (loss) * only week 3 game scheduled between 2 humans, ntndeacon (win), team 40 (loss)
St. Cronin - team 35 (win), team 37(win), team 45 (loss), team 40 (loss)

I think it would have been to the wolves' advantage to schedule each other in week 1. That could have not happened though since according to Chesapeake, Molson and I share the same role.

[Racer]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Swaggs
3. Chief Rum
4. Barkeep
5. Alan T

Vote St. Cronin

Since it appears he's a wolf, I'd like to minimize his chances of getting his conference's at-large bid.

[RendeR]

Does anyone have a solid list of players we should NOT be voting for in either poll?

[Racer]

Does anyone have a solid list of players we should NOT be voting for in either poll?

It really doesn't matter until the final day.

[chesapeake]

By the way, if Molson and St. Cronin are indeed detractors, I would suggest scanning Barkeep or Chief Rum in my conference. I am the equipment manager and Swaggs is the scout (the same roles as Molson and St. Cronin).

CR seemes more likely to me, but that is just a hunch. Folks are also welcome to scan me, if they like. I am neither Catholic nor wolf.

BK makes a good point -- we are way behind in finding the Catholics.

[Lathum]

does conference play begin today?

[Barkeep49]

does conference play begin today?
Yes.

[Mr. Wednesday]

PUBLIC POLL
1. Racer
2. Mr. Wednesday
3. chesapeake
4. claphamsa
5. jeheinz72

[Mr. Wednesday]

After claphamsa, who's in my own conference, Barkeep has the most points of any at-large team, and is still suspect.

VOTE Barkeep49

[Lathum]

Vote Molson

[path12]

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

I agree with you. Chesapeake has been pushing this point hard, which I usually find suspicious. Of course, Molson hasn't exactly been strenuously denying anything either, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

[Racer]

I have a question for Pass. Can I PM just you and one or two members of my conference or do I have to include everyone in my conference when sending any PMs?

[chesapeake]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Mr. W
3. Claphamsa
4. Jeheinz
5. Barkeep

Vote St. Cronin

[chesapeake]

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

It was concluded for me when Lathum was cleared. Obviously, others will feel differently.

I argued as hard as I did because I believed that it was more valuable to sanction Molson last turn than it was to sanction jeheinz. As it turned out, the wolves smacked jeheinz but good, so both of them took equal hits.

Quiet today.

[Passacaglia]

I have a question for Pass. Can I PM just you and one or two members of my conference or do I have to include everyone in my conference when sending any PMs?

You may PM freely with members of your conference.

[path12]

PUBLIC POLL

1) Chesapeake
2) Racer
3) Mr. W
4) Lathum
5) Molson

VOTE BARKEEP

[jeheinz72]

VOTE BARKEEP

PUBLIC POLL
1. jeheinz72
2. SnDvls
3. RendeR
4. Anxiety
5. Barkeep

[claphamsa]

vote heinz

[SnDvls]

it's a busy day here at work today so I'll just throw this together and to be fair will only vote myself today

public poll
1. SnDvls

no sancations

[Racer]

I think this is the current vote count.

Barkeep49 3
St. Cronin 2
Claphamsa 1
Racer 1
Molson 1
Jeheinz 1
No Sanctions 1

[Passacaglia]

I think this is the current vote count.

Barkeep49 3
St. Cronin 2
Claphamsa 1
Racer 1
Molson 1
Jeheinz 1
No Sanctions 1

I pretty much have that, too. The only difference is that Notre Dame doesn't get a vote.

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Claphamsa

[Racer]

Unvote St. Cronin
Vote Claphamsa

This vote is to avoid a tie and I'm not ready vote for anyone in my conference yet. If there are enough people on the board who want to go with St. Cronin, I will switch my vote back to him.

[Barkeep49]

Vote clap

[Racer]

Well I guess I created a tie, but again, I'd prefer to keep the vote out of my conference for now.

[RendeR]

ARRgghhh....ok, sorry, this 2pm central deadline simply doesn't work for me =) I'll have to take those games off in the future. between kids and work I just can't keep up well.

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll
1. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer)
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. Mr. Wednesday
4. SnDvls
5. Chief Rum
5. jeheinz72

Private Poll
1. St. Cronin's University Blue Man Group (st.cronin)
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. U of BK Drones (Barkeep49)
4. Notre Dame (Alan T)
5. SnDvls
5. Mr. Wednesday
5. Chief Rum
5. Lathum

[Passacaglia]

Day 5 Results

Mr. Wednesday LOSES TO ntndeacon
claphamsa DEFEATS st.cronin
RendeR LOSES TO SnDvls
Anxiety LOSES TO jeheinz72
chesapeake DEFEATS molson
Lathum DEFEATS path12
Racer DEFEATS Chief Rum
Barkeep49 DEFEATS Swaggs
Alan T LOSES TO Team 39

[Barkeep49]

Pass you have me losing to NTN, who I didn't play.

[Passacaglia]

Pass you have me losing to NTN, who I didn't play.

Thanks. Fixed.

[SnDvls]

I'm confused

how do I lose to someone who has a neg. chance at beating me? something isn't right?

[SnDvls]

dola---

oops I read it wrong nevermind

[Passacaglia]

st.cronin chesapeake (571)
Barkeep49 Mr. Wednesday (567) path12 (574) jeheinz72 (575)
molson Lathum (568)
jeheinz72 claphamsa (576)
claphamsa Chief Rum (556) Anxierty (580) Racer (581) Barkeep49 (582)
No Sanctions SnDvls (577)

After much deliberation, the BCS Conferences decide that once again, sanctions are necessary. This time, the smaller schools follow along with the big schools, and claphamsa is chosen to receive sanctions.

[Passacaglia]

Computer Rankings

1. Racer 188
2. chesapeake 164
3. Mr. Wednesday 162
4. Barkeep49 146
5. ntndeacon 136
6. jeheinz72 131
7. claphamsa 106
8. Chief Rum 105
9. Swaggs 93
10. Alan T 82
11. Lathum 68
12. st.cronin 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Anxiety 23
16. path12 -10
16. RendeR -10

[Passacaglia]

BCS Rankings

1. chesapeake
2. Mr. Wednesday
2. Racer
4. Barkeep49
5. Chief Rum
6. SnDvls

[Passacaglia]

Conference Standings

Big 3
-------
Racer 1-0
Barkeep49 1-0
Chief Rum 0-1
Swaggs 0-1

Four Horsemen
---------------------
jeheinz72 1-0
SnDvls 1-0
Anxiety 0-1
RendeR 0-1

Sorry Excuse for Coaches
-------------------------------------
chesapeake 1-0
Lathum 1-0
molson 0-1
path12 0-1

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
------------------------------------------------
ntndeacon 1-0
claphamsa 1-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-1
st.cronin 0-1

[Racer]

Well it looks like I took a 27 or 28 point hit.

[claphamsa]

Unvote St. Cronin
Vote Claphamsa

This vote is to avoid a tie and I'm not ready vote for anyone in my conference yet. If there are enough people on the board who want to go with St. Cronin, I will switch my vote back to him.

ur causing a tie not breking one!

Very suspicious!

[ntndeacon]

Pass you said I beat Mr. Wednesday. but you did not give me credit with it in the standings or computer rankings

[claphamsa]

After much deliberation, the BCS Conferences decide that once again, sanctions are necessary. This time, the smaller schools follow along with the big schools, and claphamsa is chosen to receive sanctions.

Jerks! Dont hate the playa hate the game!

[Passacaglia]

Pass you said I beat Mr. Wednesday. but you did not give me credit with it in the standings or computer rankings

Thanks. This one will take a while to fix! :)

[Racer]

ur causing a tie not breking one!

Very suspicious!

Yeah I realized that after I posted it. Like I said after posting it, I didn't want one of the teams in my own conference to be sanctioned yet. I would have gladly put my vote back on St. Cronin if that's where the voted would have been.

[Passacaglia]

Pass you said I beat Mr. Wednesday. but you did not give me credit with it in the standings or computer rankings

Fixed.

[Passacaglia]

From the wire:

More rumours come in from South Bend. Word is that Notre Dame head coach Alan T has managed to convince three schools, all formerly loyal to their conference, to join his prospective Catholic Conference. Word is that these schools must obtain the at-large BCS money in order to cover expenses involved in forming the conference. However, if Notre Dame manages to win the national championship, it will earn enough in advertising revenue. Most experts see this turn of events as something that would be bad for the BCS conferences, and college football as a whole.

[Racer]

Looking at the new point totals quickly, it seems that detractors distributed their points in the following manner:

Racer: 27 points
Mr. Wednesday: 23 points

If any conference saboteur sabotaged one of us, then these totals are off and the detractors also targeted another player or players.

[claphamsa]

Question, for all those who keep voting for me, are you all wolves? or do you think for some reason I am one? I mean Ive gotten sabotaged at least once, and hit with sanctions twice :'(

[chesapeake]

Pass, my math shows that BK should be at 138, not 146. Could you double check?

My numbers confirm Racer's findings, wiht him down 27 and Mr. W up 23.

[Barkeep49]

Question, for all those who keep voting for me, are you all wolves? or do you think for some reason I am one? I mean Ive gotten sabotaged at least once, and hit with sanctions twice :'(
I voted for you today only because it was you or me and I preferred you. In general I haven't been voting for sanctions.

[Passacaglia]

Pass, my math shows that BK should be at 138, not 146. Could you double check?

My numbers confirm Racer's findings, wiht him down 27 and Mr. W up 23.

My guess is that you forgot that Swaggs only played 3 games.

[Lathum]

I'. confused.

I had 68 points before I beat Path and I still have 68 points?

[Passacaglia]

I'. confused.

I had 68 points before I beat Path and I still have 68 points?

Path didn't have any powerpoints going into this game, so you really don't look any better by beating him.

[Passacaglia]

Fixed another mistake. The private poll has been changed, which affected the BCS Rankings.

[Barkeep49]

What's the tie breaker for the BCS?

[Passacaglia]

From the rules:

If there is a tie in determining anything important at the end of the last day, there will be a revote of the public and private polls. If there is still a tie, order will be determined completely based on computer rankings.

[chesapeake]

My guess is that you forgot that Swaggs only played 3 games.

Good guess. ;)

[path12]

Mr. Wednesday is a Catholic.

[Racer]

Mr. Wednesday is a Catholic.

Do you think St. Cronin is still bad or is it possible the TWC only has one detractor and that the detractor is a Catholic detractor?

[Racer]

Also, does anyone know what Mr. Wednesday's role is? That might help us find other detractors/Catholic Detractors more easily.

[Racer]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

He has a lot of points and Path12 says he's Catholic.

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Swaggs
3. Chief Rum
4. chesapeake
5. ntndeacon

I would suggest that someone scan Barkeep. My gut tells me he's the most likely to be the detractor in my conference. His pms to our conference have seemed a bit off.

[Alan T]

I agree, I think we should get rid of the evil Catholics

Vote Mr.Wednesday



Schedule team 30

[Racer]

I agree, I think we should get rid of the evil Catholics

Vote Mr.Wednesday



Schedule team 30




Aren't you Catholic?

[Racer]

Mr. Wednesday is a Catholic.

Path, who is the seer in your conference? Maybe that will help make things less confusing.

[path12]

Do you think St. Cronin is still bad or is it possible the TWC only has one detractor and that the detractor is a Catholic detractor?


I don't know, like I said my detractor scans were all negative in that conf, and I think we're just assuming it's Cronin since apparently he claimed to be the scout there. It would be awesome if I could scan for both at once but of course we can't.

As for finding out the Catholics, I'm looking at the higher point teams now and trying to find out from there. I don't know if I can scan my conference mates to see if they are Catholic though......

[path12]

Path, who is the seer in your conference? Maybe that will help make things less confusing.

That would be me. I thought that was obvious.

[Swaggs]

Chesapeake is not a detractor.

[Racer]

Chesapeake is not a detractor.

Chesapeake, are you the lobbyist or saboteur in your conference? I ask this because it pertains directly to who the detractor likely is in my conference. Path12 is probably not the detractor since St. Cronin is presumably the detractor seer and Lathuum was previously cleared. That leaves Molson, your conference's equipment manager, as the loan candidate for the detractor in your conference. Since Swaggs and I are the scout and equipment manager in my conference, respectively, it is unlikely either one of us is a detractor. If you are the lobbyist, then Barkeep is the detractor in my conference. If you are the saboteur, then Chief Rum is the detractor in my conference. If we can find out who the detractor in my conference, we will then know the detractor in the final conference because their will be only one unclaimed role for a detractor.

This clears no one from being a Catholic detractor. However, by revealing your Chesapeake, all seers will be able to start focusing on finding Catholic detractors.

[Racer]

Darn, I always wish I could correct spelling and grammer errors when making ww posts.

[Swaggs]

Chesapeake, are you the lobbyist or saboteur in your conference? I ask this because it pertains directly to who the detractor likely is in my conference. Path12 is probably not the detractor since St. Cronin is presumably the detractor seer and Lathuum was previously cleared. That leaves Molson, your conference's equipment manager, as the loan candidate for the detractor in your conference. Since Swaggs and I are the scout and equipment manager in my conference, respectively, it is unlikely either one of us is a detractor. If you are the lobbyist, then Barkeep is the detractor in my conference. If you are the saboteur, then Chief Rum is the detractor in my conference. If we can find out who the detractor in my conference, we will then know the detractor in the final conference because their will be only one unclaimed role for a detractor.

This clears no one from being a Catholic detractor. However, by revealing your Chesapeake, all seers will be able to start focusing on finding Catholic detractors.

I'd agree with all of this.

With a little bit of communication, we should be able to start IDing the detractors and work towards nocking out the Catholics.

[Swaggs]

...and, I just spelled "k"nocking wrong... :p

[Racer]

I just realized my logic is flawed. Molson is indeed probably the detractor in the SEC. However, knowing chesapeake's role won't tell us which conference the detractor saboteur is in and which conference the detractor lobbyist is in.

However, I believe Jeheinz previously said he was a lobbyist. Because Jeheinz took such a huge hit the other day, he is almost certainly not a detractor. Since the seer and equipment manager detractors roles are accounted for at this point, that means I am almost certain that the saboteur comes from the Four Horsemen conference (whoever that is) and the lobbyist comes from our conference. Therefore, I am almost sure that Barkeep is a detractor.

[Racer]

Unvote No Sanctions
Vote Molson

Since I was too lazy to count the votes earlier. I'm not a wolf guys, I"m a lobbyist.


This is post 496 where Jeheinz says he's a lobbyist. Again going off the assumption that Jeheinz is unlikely to be a wolf given that he took such a power points hit a couple days ago, the saboteur must come from his conference which means Barkeep, lobbyist, must be the wolf from my conference.

[Chief Rum]

VOTE MRWEDNESDAY

Seems an obvious choice. Way to go, path!

PUBLIC POLL

1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
3. Swaggs
4. path12
5. Lathum

I guess if the signs are pointing to BK being the detractor in the Big Three, I should stop including him in my polls. I can see Racer's logic to it.

[Racer]

Alright, here are my current thoughts on the Catholic detractors. Pass said that there are three and all three were originally loyal to their conference. From a game balance standpoint, a conference that has only two players loyal to it has very little chance of winning. So I think a likely scenario is that the other two Catholic detractors come from the TWC. Another possibility is that our victories conditions will change and we will only need a loyal player to win, not one specifically from our conference. Of course, it's quite possible neither one of these is the case.

I think the best way to go about finding the Catholic detractors is to have one scout to scan either ntndeacon or claphamsa. I would suggest scanning ntndeacon though since he currently has more power points then claphamsa.
The remaining scouts should then scan the current point leaders: chesapeake, jeheinz72, and myself. Players with the most points poise the greatest threats. Mr. Wednesday took a decent size hit yesterday so clearly just because Chesapeake, Jeheinz, and I are not likely to be detractors does not mean we are not Catholic detractors.

[Barkeep49]

Why would you think that two detractors come from one Conference? I find that highly unlikely Racer.

[Barkeep49]

DOLA: This is the second unlikely theory that Racer has come out with. He had been pushing, in our conference, the idea that one of the Catholics was also a detractor. Now he's suggesting that two Catholics come from the same conference. I'd love to see someone scan him for being a catholic.

[chesapeake]

As you guessed, I am the saboteur. Scanning me for Catholicism is fine by me.

[Racer]

Why would you think that two detractors come from one Conference? I find that highly unlikely Racer.

I think the three Catholic detractors may come from one conference. That would give us the following groups:

-4 detractors
-4 Catholic detractors (3 from the TWC)
-3 groups of 3 conference loyalists


If the Catholic detractors come from seperate conferences, then that means there are conferences that only have two teams loyal to it. Assuming that the victory condition isn't going to change for teams loyal to their conference, those two teams then have virtually no chance of winning because they get beat in the polls (because 4 people voting together overrules any group of 2 people voting together) and also would be vulnerable to night attacks which regular detractors are not unless it is convenient meaning that they would have a very hard time winning the computer poll as well.

[chesapeake]

I agree with BK, in that 2 Catholics from one conference seems highly unlikely.

My conference can be cleared of Catholics quickly. We know that Molson, our detractor, can't be the Catholic. If somoene scans Lathum and myself, we'll know in one turn who it is.

[Racer]

DOLA: This is the second unlikely theory that Racer has come out with. He had been pushing, in our conference, the idea that one of the Catholics was also a detractor. Now he's suggesting that two Catholics come from the same conference. I'd love to see someone scan him for being a catholic.

I think tonight it would be best if the scouts scanned ntndeacon, chesapeake, and me for being Catholic. We are currently #1, #2, and #5 in the polls so I think it is important that we be scanned. As previosly stated, I also think everyone in the TWC may be either a detractor or Catholic detractor so it would be good to test that theory which is another reason why we should scan ntndeacon tonight.

[claphamsa]

I think tonight it would be best if the scouts scanned ntndeacon, chesapeake, and me for being Catholic. We are currently #1, #2, and #5 in the polls so I think it is important that we be scanned. As previosly stated, I also think everyone in the TWC may be either a detractor or Catholic detractor so it would be good to test that theory which is another reason why we should scan ntndeacon tonight.

did I miss this explanation? Im neither catholic nor detractor (unless I missed a Pm saying I was catholic) so....... cant be all of us are bad :D

[Barkeep49]

I think tonight it would be best if the scouts scanned ntndeacon, chesapeake, and me for being Catholic. We are currently #1, #2, and #5 in the polls so I think it is important that we be scanned. As previosly stated, I also think everyone in the TWC may be either a detractor or Catholic detractor so it would be good to test that theory which is another reason why we should scan ntndeacon tonight.
Well I'm glad we agree that you should be scanned.

[Racer]

did I miss this explanation? Im neither catholic nor detractor (unless I missed a Pm saying I was catholic) so....... cant be all of us are bad :D

There isn't any hard evidence. Just something I think is a distinct possibility from a game balance standpoint. I talked about it in post #635.

[path12]

I think tonight it would be best if the scouts scanned ntndeacon, chesapeake, and me for being Catholic.

Question for Pass: Can a seer scan for Catholics within their own conference?

I'm assuming the answer to that is no, so I will scan one of the other two listed here today.

[Passacaglia]

Question for Pass: Can a seer scan for Catholics within their own conference?

I'm assuming the answer to that is no, so I will scan one of the other two listed here today.

You're correct -- the answer is no.

[chesapeake]

Vote Mr. W

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Barkeep
3. Chesapeake
4. ntndeacon
5. jeheinz

[ntndeacon]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

not that I am against being scanned in general, but wouldn't it be better served to scan folks from conferences that did not currently have a known catholic?

[claphamsa]

There isn't any hard evidence. Just something I think is a distinct possibility from a game balance standpoint. I talked about it in post #635.

You never gave a reason for thinking its TWC thats all bad!

[ntndeacon]

You never gave a reason for thinking its TWC thats all bad!

I assume it is because we know one catholic besides Notre Dame and that is Mr Wednesday. Still think it is a bad idea. go after the other conferences.

[SnDvls]

vote Mr. W

public poll

1. SnDvls
2. Jhenitz
3. Anxiety
4. RendeR
5. ntn

[Lathum]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

[Lathum]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

[Mr. Wednesday]

Public poll
1. Mr. Wednesday
2. Alan T
3. ntndeacon
4. Chief Rum
5. Racer

[Mr. Wednesday]

VOTE NO SANCTIONS

[Racer]

You never gave a reason for thinking its TWC thats all bad!

I think it's a possibility and it can easily be confirmed or proven not true by simply scanning you or ntndeacon. I am against scanning both of you. We would only be using 1 out of 3 scouts on the TWC. This of course is assuming we actually still have 3 good scouts. We're risking a lot to NOT scan ntndeacon when he is currently 5th in power points. We know #3 in power points is a Catholic and #4 in power points is a detractor so it makes sense to scan the top three unknowns in terms of power points (which are Chesapeake, ntndeacon, and myself).

By the way, I don't believe this was ever answered. Who is the saboteur in the Four Horsemen conference? It would be helpful to know who not to vote for on the final day.

[Alan T]

What a tough place everyone is in here.. Do you hunt down the catholics in order to allow the detractors to win?

You all seem to have a better idea of whom the detractors are, wouldn't you want to iron that out better so you make sure none of them get the at large bid? :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

We know ... #4 in power points is a detractor...
We do?

I can help out with that. :D

[claphamsa]

vote mr wednesday

[Racer]

I really hope the scouts coordinate something here in the last hour since they haven't so far.

[st.cronin]

I am scouting Racer for Catholic affiliation, fwiw.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

PUBLIC POLL
1. jeheinz72
2. Anxiety
3. RendeR
4. SnDvls
5. Racer

[path12]

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

Public Poll
1) Lathum
2) jeheinz
3) Molson
4) SnDvls
5) RendeR

[chesapeake]

I am scouting Racer for Catholic affiliation, fwiw.

It's worth a lot, since you hate catholics, too. It just has to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.

[ntndeacon]

Public Poll
1. ntn
2. Claphamsa
3. chesapeake
4.jeheinz
5. Anxiety

[st.cronin]

PUBLIC POLL

1. st.cronin
2. molson
3. Lathum
4. Anxiety
5. SnDvls

[path12]

I really hope the scouts coordinate something here in the last hour since they haven't so far.


I'm scanning ntn.

[Racer]

I'm scanning ntn.

If the Four Horsemen scout is on right now, I highly suggest you scout me then since Swaggs can't.

[Racer]

And hopefully Swaggs will scout Chesapeake.

[path12]

If the Four Horsemen scout is on right now, I highly suggest you scout me then since Swaggs can't.

Cronin says he's scanning you. I'll go with what he says, but this way we get as many as possible rather than double checking his work even though he is the detractor.

[Lathum]

Lathum
Path
Molson
Clap
Barkeep

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. jeheinz72
3. Lathum
4. ntndeacon
5. Anxiety
5. molson
5. SnDvls

Private Poll
1. st.cronin
2. Barkeep49
3. Alan T
4. Chief Rum
4. molson

[Passacaglia]

Day 6 Results

Mr. Wednesday LOSES TO claphamsa
ntndeacon DEFEATS st.cronin
Anxiety DEFEATS SnDvls
RendeR LOSES TO jeheinz72
chesapeake DEFEATS path12
Lathum DEFEATS molson
Racer DEFEATS Barkeep49
Chief Rum DEFEATS Swaggs
Alan T DEFEATS Team 30

[Passacaglia]

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on Mr. Wednesday as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Barkeep49 to receive sanctions.

[Passacaglia]

Computer Rankings
1. Racer 225
2. chesapeake 154
3. Mr. Wednesday 152
4. ntndeacon 138
5. jeheinz72 131
6. claphamsa 128
6. Chief Rum 128
8. Alan T 124
9. Barkeep49 96
10. Swaggs 93
11. Lathum 69
12. st.cronin 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Anxiety 29
16. path12 -10
16. RendeR -10

[Passacaglia]

BCS Rankings
1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
2. jeheinz72
4. ntndeacon
5. Lathum
6. chesapeake
6. molson

[Racer]

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on Mr. Wednesday as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Barkeep49 to receive sanctions.

This is what I was really hoping for. Both Mr. Wednesday and Barkeep are lobbyists which means they can avoid the 50 point deduction if they want. Mr. Wednesday might get a power points hit from the detractors whereas Barkeep won't. Barkeep in my opinion was a better candidate for the sanctions but targeting him would have likely resulted in the sanctions being shifted to someone else (probably Mr. Wednesday, Chesapeake, or myself).

[Lathum]

1 God Damn point!!

[Passacaglia]

Fixed a small error with Notre Dame -- I forgot to give them a 15% bonus at the end of Day 4. No rankings were changed as a result (but Notre Dame gained 12 powerpoints).

[Alan T]

Fixed a small error with Notre Dame -- I forgot to give them a 15% bonus at the end of Day 4. No rankings were changed as a result (but Notre Dame gained 12 powerpoints).

The man, always trying to keep us down.

[path12]

Ntn is not a Catholic.

[Alan T]

Ntn is not a Catholic.

I bet he is eastern orthodox. They're just as dangerous you know.

[Passacaglia]

Standings

Big 3
--------
Racer 2-0
Barkeep49 1-1
Chief Rum 1-1
Swaggs 0-2

Four Horsemen
----------------------
jeheinz72 2-0
Anxiety 1-1
SnDvls 1-1
RendeR 0-2

Sorry Excuse for Coaches
--------------------------------------
chesapeake 2-0
Lathum 2-0
molson 0-2
path12 0-2

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
-------------------------------------------------
claphamsa 2-0
ntndeacon 2-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-2
st.cronin 0-2

[Passacaglia]

Sorry Excuse for Coaches Outlook

We'll do the simplest first. The conference championship game will be between chesapeake and Lathum. They'll play a little scrimmage before for funsies.

[Passacaglia]

Transylvania Werewolf Conference Outlook

This one is just as simple, really. The conference title will go to the winner of the game between claphamsa and ntndeacon.

[Passacaglia]

Big 3 Outlook

Racer will play the winner of the game between Barkeep49 and Chief Rum in the championship game.

[Passacaglia]

Four Horsemen Outlook

If jeheinz72 beats SnDvls, then jeheinz72 wins the conference.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and RendeR beats Anxiety, then SnDvls wins the conference based on a head-to-head tiebreaker with jeheinz72.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and Anxiety beats RendeR, jeheinz72 wins the conference based on overall record.

[Passacaglia]

The following five people will play, or might play, in a conference championship game. Send me any conditional orders you'd like regarding throwing the game.

Berkeep49
chesapeake
Chief Rum
Lathum
Racer

[claphamsa]

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

[Lathum]

what are my chances ate beating cchesapeak?

[SnDvls]

Four Horsemen Outlook

If jeheinz72 beats SnDvls, then jeheinz72 wins the conference.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and RendeR beats Anxiety, then SnDvls wins the conference based on a head-to-head tiebreaker with jeheinz72.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and Anxiety beats RendeR, jeheinz72 wins the conference based on overall record.

well since RendeR can't beat Anxiety unless he throws the game and I can't win unless jeheinz throws the game this one is over

congrats jeheinz

[chesapeake]

Today's wolf victims: Chesapeake, Mr. W., ntndeacon, Claphamsa, Lathum.

[Passacaglia]

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

The Catholics are vying for the at-large bid, just like everyone else (or getting ND in the national championship game).

[chesapeake]

According to Pass's post, #602, the Catholics need either ND to win the national championship or a Catholic school earning the BCS at-large bid. Winning the conference won't do it.

[Passacaglia]

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

what are my chances ate beating cchesapeak?

If neither of you throw the game, you have a 31% chance of winning.

[Alan T]

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

I am not evil, just misunderstood.

[claphamsa]

Today's wolf victims: Chesapeake, Mr. W., ntndeacon, Claphamsa, Lathum.

2 sanctions this is what my 3rd wolf hit? and still in the top 6 BIZNATCHES!!!!

[jeheinz72]

well since RendeR can't beat Anxiety unless he throws the game and I can't win unless jeheinz throws the game this one is over

congrats jeheinz

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?

[SnDvls]

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?

no reason, just that there is no way for me to win unless a lot of behind the scenes stuff happens. which it appears in our conference hasn't or isn't happening

[Barkeep49]

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?
Because if you win the National Championship you win.

[jeheinz72]

Because if you win the National Championship you win.

But I'd have to be the best conference winner to get that, right? I clearly won't be.

[chesapeake]

The Catholics are vying for the at-large bid, just like everyone else (or getting ND in the national championship game).

Post #602 definitely says that ND has to win the national championship. Has this changed?

[Passacaglia]

Post #602 definitely says that ND has to win the national championship. Has this changed?

Just bad phrasing on my part. They're trying to win it.

[Barkeep49]

But I'd have to be the best conference winner to get that, right? I clearly won't be.
You'd have to be top 2 in BCS ranking to get to the championship game, which seems quite doable for you.

[Racer]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
3. Swaggs
4. chesapeake
5. jeheinz72

[path12]

Cronin, did you scan Racer?

[st.cronin]

Cronin, did you scan Racer?

Yep, he's not a Catholic.

[Swaggs]

I also scanned ntndeacon to see if he was Catholic. He obviously was not.

We should get organized for tomorrow to make sure that we do not scan the same schools again. Anyone have suggestions?

[Chief Rum]

My nightly post...

PUBLIC POLL

1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
3. Barkeep
4. Swaggs
5. path12

Sanctions...

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Looking forward to tomorrow...

[claphamsa]

My nightly post...

PUBLIC POLL

1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
3. Barkeep
4. Swaggs
5. path12

Sanctions...

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Looking forward to tomorrow...


AGAIN!!!!

[Racer]

Voting for Mr. Wednesday or Barkeep seems useless as either one would most likely just move the vote to someone else. I can vote for Notre Dame and I'm going to be gone the rest of today when I can make a better vote so

Vote St. Cronin

He is the highest ranked likely detractor who isn't a lobbyist. Also to the detractors: I highly recommend you use some of you sabotage points on Notre Dame today. They are becoming a threat because their opponents points aren't divided by the number of games they play. We aren't allowed to sanction them so really the only hope is you or the saboteurs sabotage Alan T.

[Alan T]

Voting for Mr. Wednesday or Barkeep seems useless as either one would most likely just move the vote to someone else. I can vote for Notre Dame and I'm going to be gone the rest of today when I can make a better vote so

Vote St. Cronin

He is the highest ranked likely detractor who isn't a lobbyist. Also to the detractors: I highly recommend you use some of you sabotage points on Notre Dame today. They are becoming a threat because their opponents points aren't divided by the number of games they play. We aren't allowed to sanction them so really the only hope is you or the saboteurs sabotage Alan T.

ie: I am a threat to you as you are in a good position to win the title game right now, while I barely am able to beat a level 30 team, and lose to level 40 teams. :) So you think its a good idea for other team's saboteurs to give up their chance of trying to do things for their conference to get an at large bid in order to help you keep me from being a threat.

Sounds good, everyone give up your chance to win for Racer! :)

[Racer]

ie: I am a threat to you as you are in a good position to win the title game right now, while I barely am able to beat a level 30 team, and lose to level 40 teams. :) So you think its a good idea for other team's saboteurs to give up their chance of trying to do things for their conference to get an at large bid in order to help you keep me from being a threat.

Sounds good, everyone give up your chance to win for Racer! :)

Exactly. :)

I probably asked for a little to much. A 27 point sabotage like I got would be nice though. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Do the polls today determine the at-large team, or is that deferred until tomorrow?

[Passacaglia]

Do the polls today determine the at-large team, or is that deferred until tomorrow?

Tomorrow's polls will determine the BCS games.

[jeheinz72]

Vote St. Cronin

1. jeheinz72
2. Anxiety
3. RendeR
4. SnDvls
5. chesapeake

[Swaggs]

Anyone have suggestions on who to scout?

[claphamsa]

Think I forgot to vote

vote BK!

[molson]

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[claphamsa]

Why is everyone voting for me the 3rd time........

::SOB::

[path12]

Computer Rankings
1. Racer 225 -- not Catholic (cronin)
2. chesapeake 154 -- detractor
3. Mr. Wednesday 152 -- Catholic (scan by path)
4. ntndeacon 138 -- not Catholic (path/Swaggs)
5. jeheinz72 131
6. claphamsa 128
6. Chief Rum 128
8. Alan T 124
9. Barkeep49 96
10. Swaggs 93
11. Lathum 69
12. st.cronin 62 -- suspected detractor
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Anxiety 29
16. path12 -10
16. RendeR -10

Anyone have suggestions on who to scout?

This is off the top of my head. I'd suggest you scan Chesapeake to see if he's Catholic since I can't.

[path12]

Standings

Big 3
--------
Racer 2-0 -- non Catholic per cronin
Barkeep49 1-1
Chief Rum 1-1
Swaggs 0-2 -- seer

Four Horsemen
----------------------
jeheinz72 2-0
Anxiety 1-1
SnDvls 1-1
RendeR 0-2 -- seer?

Sorry Excuse for Coaches
--------------------------------------
chesapeake 2-0 -- detractor
Lathum 2-0
molson 0-2
path12 0-2 -- seer

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
-------------------------------------------------
claphamsa 2-0
ntndeacon 2-0 -- non Catholic per path/Swaggs
Mr. Wednesday 0-2 -- Catholic per path
st.cronin 0-2 -- detractor/seer

So we've got three Catholics and two detractors out there. Ugh. I'm leaning JEheinz/Barkeep/Chief R for my scan today. Any thoughts?

[SnDvls]

vote clap

public poll

Barkeep
SnDvls
RendeR
Anxiety
jeheintz

[SnDvls]

So we've got three Catholics and two detractors out there. Ugh. I'm leaning JEheinz/Barkeep/Chief R for my scan today. Any thoughts?

I'd go jeheinz as he has our conference locked up

[jeheinz72]

Don't waste it on me, I'm just a lobbyist (I thnk that's the term, whoever it is that throws a game and effects sanctions)

[claphamsa]

GRR, So isnt the point to get non catholic non detractors into the good games?? wouldnt it make more sense to have me not get hit by sanctions every day therby taking a spot from the evils? Or do yalls think im one of the bad guys? nothgin makes sense in this game :(

[path12]

Don't waste it on me, I'm just a lobbyist (I thnk that's the term, whoever it is that throws a game and effects sanctions)


I think I'm looking for a Catholic at this point, so you're definitely in the mix!

[path12]

BCS Rankings
1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
2. jeheinz72
4. ntndeacon
5. Lathum
6. chesapeake
6. molson

Actually, if we use this for scans, Chief Rum, Jeheinz, Lathum and Chesapeake should be the main scan targets for today, shouldn't they?

I'm scanning Chief Rum.

[path12]

PUBLIC POLL

Racer
ntndeacon
Molson
path12
Swaggs

VOTE CHESAPEAKE

[Barkeep49]

Anyone have a vote count?

Public Poll
1. Barkeep49
2. Racer
3. SnDvls
4. Chief Rum
5. jeheinz

[chesapeake]

Lathum and myself for Catholicism and Barkeep and Chief Rum for both seem like the best targets for scanning to me.

[chesapeake]

Chesapeake is not a detractor.

Post #623. Path, I'm a little concerned that you would call me a detractor in your post. Not only have I been cleared of this by another conference's seer, but I think my play has has been very clearly villager.

I strongly ask that other conference seers scan myself and Lathum for being catholics. Molson, as our detractor, can't be, and Path as our seer will show up clean.

[chesapeake]

VOTE Barkeep -- odds are he and/or CR mean a win for one of the wolf groups.

1. Racer
2. ntndeacon
3. Chesapeake
4. Claphamsa
5. Lathum

[Barkeep49]

Vote clap

[path12]

Post #623. Path, I'm a little concerned that you would call me a detractor in your post. Not only have I been cleared of this by another conference's seer, but I think my play has has been very clearly villager.

I strongly ask that other conference seers scan myself and Lathum for being catholics. Molson, as our detractor, can't be, and Path as our seer will show up clean.

My mistake, I thought you came out as a detractor yesterday for some reason. I'll try and find the post.

[path12]

As you guessed, I am the saboteur. Scanning me for Catholicism is fine by me.

That's the quote I was talking about.

[path12]

Dola, I guess I mixed up detractor and saboteur......thiz iz hrd gam.

[RendeR]

OK who should I scan and for what?

[RendeR]

QUICK! =)

[RendeR]

vote clap

public poll

Barkeep
SnDvls
RendeR
Anxiety
jeheintz

[RendeR]

Triple dola:

Nevermind, I looked up through the thread and picked someone to scan.

Bleh. This has really been the worst game for me timing wise. Sorry fellas =(

I'm gonna take a good two or three week break from WW after this one ends. Too many irons in the forge right now.

[SnDvls]

vote clap

public poll

Barkeep
SnDvls
RendeR
Anxiety
jeheintz


dude I think you stole my post ;)
it's word for word the same :)

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Barkeep49
3. SnDvls
4. Chief Rum
5. jeheinz72
5. RendeR

Private Poll
1. Chief Rum
2. RendeR
3. Barkeep49
3. jeheinz72
3. Racer

[Passacaglia]

Day 7 Results

Mr. Wednesday LOSES TO st.cronin
claphamsa LOSES TO ntndeacon
SnDvls DEFEATS jeheinz72
Anxiety LOSES TO RendeR
Lathum LOSES TO chesapeake
path12 DEFEATS molson
Racer DEFEATS Swaggs
Chief Rum LOSES TO Barkeep49

[Passacaglia]

Conference Championships

Racer LOSES TO Barkeep49
Lathum LOSES TO chesapeake

[Passacaglia]

Congratulations to the conference winners!

Barkeep49
chesapeake
ntndeacon
SnDvls

[Lathum]

ok, so I have no idea what any of this means.

[chesapeake]

I take it my pm got there too late? I hate it when real life interferes with games.

[Passacaglia]

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on claphamsa as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Chief Rum to receive sanctions.

[RendeR]

dude I think you stole my post ;)
it's word for word the same :)


Didn't have time to think about it, found one from my conference and copied it =)

[RendeR]

Umm, Pass? PM's? Timing is everything? How could I win?

[Passacaglia]

Computer Rankings

1. Racer 226
2. chesapeake 176
3. ntndeacon 159
4. Barkeep49 158
5. Mr. Wednesday 152
6. jeheinz72 131
7. claphamsa 128
8. Alan T 124
9. Swaggs 93
10. st.cronin 87
11. molson 55
12. SnDvls 52
13. Lathum 45
14. Anxiety 29
15. Chief Rum 28
16. path12 -1
17. RendeR -5

[SnDvls]

Umm, Pass? PM's? Timing is everything? How could I win?

anxiety threw his game a while a go...he pm'd us all that last night

[claphamsa]

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on claphamsa as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Chief Rum to receive sanctions.


HA!