Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Raiders Army]

dola- And the logic to lynch me first is flawed.

If RA is the seer he dies tonight anyway since lynching me would take his protection away.

Not true. This is only assuming that you are a bodyguard. Granted, the converse is assuming I'm the seer. The difference is that most people know (as much as you can know in WW) that I'm the seer.

[DaddyTorgo]

valid point

[Lathum]

All you need to know is IO VOTED FOR RACER YESTERDAY!!!

Why would I cast the first stone there if I was a Titan?

[Lathum]

If RA is the seer then there is a seriously screwed up mechanic.

[Raiders Army]

Hold one. On the phone.

[DaddyTorgo]

gah

[DaddyTorgo]

telle? pb? anxiety? thoughts

[Abe Sargent]

Came back abd saw everybody jumping on me.

Remember that CR gave us the titan and also confrimed that Ares was in teh game. Isn't that a storng indication that I am exactly who I calim, even without anything ekse?

[Telle]

Ok, I've been going back and doing some reading from early in the thread.. I think I've picked up on PurdueBrad's hint. And as thus, I am going to trust him and follow his lead.

Also, this whole Lathum thing is just really odd. I trust Raiders Army because I know that Apollo is in the game.. and we haven't seen Apollo dead and nobody else has claimed to be him. But things just aren't adding up quite right with Lathum being a Titan. I'm inclined to believe the theory that RA's scan was somehow messed with.. at least for now.

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE ANXIETY

[Raiders Army]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm not convinced Anxiety is a Titan BUT I agree with the line of thinking that says we have bought ourselves some time. I think we might actually control the game now and this might be the one time we can take a mulligan. I don't mind putting off the inevitable Cronin, Lathum, RaidersArmy, Me, and CR showdown a day to see if we get more info. So, I'll stay on my Anxiety vote and frankly hope that we're right.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

are you kidding??? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

omg...i'm sorry man. That sounds...wow

[Poli]

Agreed. My condolences.

[Telle]

All you need to know is IO VOTED FOR RACER YESTERDAY!!!

Why would I cast the first stone there if I was a Titan?

Yeah but so did AE. Who else were you going to vote for? It was obviously a wolf set-up to have it be a Titan-Titan showdown to sacrifice one and thus gain trust for the other. And voting early for another wolf is a pretty common tactic to throw off suspicion.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

RA, very sorry to hear this, good luck to you and your family.

[Telle]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

Wow. I don't even know what to say. My thoughts will definitely be with you and your family.

[Alan T]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.


Eww :( Sorry to hear that RA

[Abe Sargent]

Also, killing me gets you no closer to teh Lathum/RA issue.

[PurdueBrad]

Ok, just over a half hour to go.. vote count:

Lathum - 5 - Raiders Army (1620), Anxiety (1714), Telle (1729), Neon_Chaos (1832), Chief Rum (1919)
Raiders Army - 1 - Lathum (1918)
PurdueBrad - 1 - st.cronin (1931)
Anxiety - 2 - PurdueBrad (1949), DaddyTorgo (1950)

A correction here, Chief Rum had switched on a post just prior to this count from Lathum to Anxiety as well.

[PurdueBrad]

Update:

Lathum - 3 - Raiders Army (1620), Anxiety (1714), Neon_Chaos (1832)
Raiders Army - 1 - Lathum (1918)
PurdueBrad - 1 - st.cronin (1931)
Anxiety - 4 - PurdueBrad (1949), DaddyTorgo (1950), Chief Rum (1989), Telle (2009)

[Telle]

As of 2019 (and anyone correct me if i'm wrong):

Lathum - 3 - Raiders Army (1620), Anxiety (1714), Neon_Chaos (1832)
Raiders Army - 1 - Lathum (1918)
PurdueBrad - 1 - st.cronin (1931)
Anxiety - 4 - PurdueBrad (1949), DaddyTorgo (1950), Chief Rum (1989), Telle (2009)

[PurdueBrad]

It looks like it is really going to come down to Neon_Chaos and St. Cronin and where they go + how the AP plays out.

[PurdueBrad]

Hehe, great minds think alike Telle!

[Telle]

Hehe, great minds think alike Telle!

:D

[Lathum]

wow RA, sorry to hear that

[Chief Rum]

Chief - If you are a Titan on the side of good...do you know who the Titans on the side of evil are but just cannot say? Or are you completely blind to them and them blind to you? How does that mechanic work?

For all we know you could be the last Titan at this point...

I just know what Titans are in the game. I don't get role reveal info unfortunately. As far as I know, until I came out, they didn't know I existed.

And, lol, if I am the last Titan, vote for me now. :) I guess we'll see if there is no kill tonight.

[st.cronin]

I hope we have a duke left in the game, because I don't like any of those choices.

[Racer]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

Oh wow. Sorry to hear that.

[Abe Sargent]

I think killing me is a desperate attempt to not fighure out the Lathum/RA dispute, hoping that despite uncontroverted evidence that I am exactly what I have told you from day one, that somehow I am a titan, instead of having to deal with the difficult issue in front of all of us.

You don;t learn about either Lathum nor RA though my death, it does not advance the plot in any major way (it might give you confirmation about st cronin who has already been doubled vouched for and could get another vouch tonight by targeting anybody he wants).

[DaddyTorgo]

Chief - you and I both know that you're Medusa. Like I said, I can't see a scenario where that is NOT the case.

[Lathum]

UNVOTE RAIDERSARMY
VOTE ANXIETY

self preservation

I still think RA's story stinks but he isn't gonna get lynched today so it's pointless to keep my vote there.

[PurdueBrad]

Cronin, the fact that I seem to be your top choice and am an Olympian does bother me. Who else would you want to see on the lynching block, me and then who else?

[DaddyTorgo]

anxiety - killing you will give us another night of actions to discover what we can about the RA/Lathum pairing

[Chief Rum]

All you need to know is IO VOTED FOR RACER YESTERDAY!!!

Why would I cast the first stone there if I was a Titan?

Not comfortable with any vote here, damnit. :(

I am leaning to switching to RA. Lathum has struck me as good all game.

[Chief Rum]

Chief - you and I both know that you're Medusa. Like I said, I can't see a scenario where that is NOT the case.

Yup, and you and I are Red Sox fans, too!

[DaddyTorgo]

i'd rather not lynch a potential bodyguard if we don't have to. And now that we're running low on titans and assuming if it was someone messing with RA's scan it was a one-time power, we ought to be able to get more information, or revisit it tomorrow if i'm wrong about anxiety.

Although I haven't been wrong yet this game.

[Chief Rum]

All right, I am switching, but away from all these bad choices. I don't think Lathum is a baddie, I think RA is the seer but mistaken, and I know Anxiety is who he is, because he used his ability on me.

I'm going to follow st. cronin's suggestion.

UNVOTE ANXIETY

VOTE ST.CRONIN

[Abe Sargent]

cronin is Aprodite, I can verify it.

[Abe Sargent]

He appaerd as such in my pm completely

[DaddyTorgo]

abe - if you are ares, I am sorry.

[PurdueBrad]

CR, switch back because I think I can verify St. C's role tomorrow.

[Abe Sargent]

Of course I'm Ares. This vote did us nothing. Ah well.

[Chief Rum]

cronin is Aprodite, I can verify it.

I tend to believe you, too. But if none of you are bad, who do I vote for? I doubt my vote will matter anyway.

[PurdueBrad]

Or switch to someone else, make your vote count. I can verify St. C. once we get our night action results.

[st.cronin]

So, Chief, you think I'm lying? That means Anxiety is also lying ... your switch makes NO sense.

What about Arlington Colt?

[Abe Sargent]

Fair enough

[Chief Rum]

CR, switch back because I think I can verify St. C's role tomorrow.

Switch back to Anxiety? He's already a goner. What's the point? I would switch to someone else if we were saving Anxiety.

[Alan T]

Deadline

[Neon_Chaos]

Nice job on Racer, guys!

I'll buy into it.

Unvote Lathum
Vote Anxiety

[Alan T]

This is what I have as the vote, someone correct me quick if I am wrong:

Lathum - Raiders Army (1620), Anxiety (1714), Neon_Chaos (1832)
Purdue Brad - St.Cronin (1931)
Anxiety - Purduebrad (1949), DaddyTorgo (1950), Telle (2009), Lathum (2031)
St.Cronin - Chief RUm (2037)

[DaddyTorgo]

what about arlington colt? is he still alive? he really wants us to buy that his weapon isn't completed yet???

[Alan T]

Nice job on Racer, guys!

I'll buy into it.

Unvote Lathum
Vote Anxiety


After deadline vote, won't count.

[Neon_Chaos]

Crap.

[DaddyTorgo]

you missed by a minute Neon

[Chief Rum]

So, Chief, you think I'm lying? That means Anxiety is also lying ... your switch makes NO sense.

What about Arlington Colt?

Bud, you yourself said to vote for you, rather than Lathum. That's all I am doing. I am snookered. I don't have a clue which of you is a baddie. But I'm certain Anxiety isn't, so I'm not voting for him. And my vote on you will do you no harm, because no one else is on you with me.

[Abe Sargent]

nice post deadline vote there ;)

[PurdueBrad]

Chief, that makes sense and I would rather you go with your gut than bandwagon, which I'll be honest, I've got my list but I can't pick between them.

[Chief Rum]

Holy crap, I thought Arlington Colt was dead. Where the hell has he been, and why haven't we been lynching him?

[DaddyTorgo]

guys...i think we gotta worry about arlington colt at SOME point. Again he didn't vote today, so if his story is true he will only have 1 AP tomorrow to work on his weapon...does this sound like someone who is really worried about getting some weapon finished, or like a titan making up a story and not worrying now because he isn't going to power up his votes?

I dunno...

[Neon_Chaos]

Sorry about the late vote guys, just came back from picking my roommate up from the train station.

[PurdueBrad]

I actually thought he was too which is why I felt stupid when I mixed him up with Raider's Army. Man, this could've been a brilliant UTR play if he's bad! (possible egg on face!)

[st.cronin]

Bud, you yourself said to vote for you, rather than Lathum. That's all I am doing. I am snookered. I don't have a clue which of you is a baddie. But I'm certain Anxiety isn't, so I'm not voting for him. And my vote on you will do you no harm, because no one else is on you with me.

I meant if it were between Lathum and RA. Picking me over Anxiety makes no sense, since if you trust Anxiety, you must also then trust me.

[Chief Rum]

guys...i think we gotta worry about arlington colt at SOME point. Again he didn't vote today, so if his story is true he will only have 1 AP tomorrow to work on his weapon...does this sound like someone who is really worried about getting some weapon finished, or like a titan making up a story and not worrying now because he isn't going to power up his votes?

I dunno...

But there is only one bad Titan left. If there is a kill tonight and he's not around, would he be a Titan?

[DaddyTorgo]

But there is only one bad Titan left. If there is a kill tonight and he's not around, would he be a Titan?

he could have submitted it way earlier.

not sure how the titan's power works...do they have an auto-kill and then powers (i would assume) so maybe he's just going to depend on his auto-kill

[Chief Rum]

I meant if it were between Lathum and RA. Picking me over Anxiety makes no sense, since if you trust Anxiety, you must also then trust me.

Actually, that's not true. I trust Anxiety more for his action on me, not on anything to do with you. You're not clear with me yet.

Lathum is the BG and RA is the seer. Not going to vote for either of them.

And you don't lose anything for me voting for you. Basically, I admit, I threw out a worthless vote to save my AP, but not commit to lynching any one of the people I see as all being good, including yourself (because no way my vote gets you killed).

[Chief Rum]

And I would have voted for Arlington Colt in a heartbeat of I realized he was still alive.

[Chief Rum]

So what, am I the new threadkiller?

[Raiders Army]

Back. Got some more details, but it doesn't look too good. Sounds as if drugs were involved. Just so y'all know, for the most part the cousins on my Dad's side of the family are pretty much strangers to me. They're also way older than I am so we never grew up together. Guess the whole homicide thing came down to a minor disagreeance about money and Madden and this guy who was high shot my cousin's son in the head. Pretty gruesome, but by the same token, I don't want people to think that I'm heartbroken about it. I'll send flowers and condolences, but that's about it. I'm not flying to Ohio for the funeral.

Anyhow, funny you guys mention ArlingtonColt. I scanned him with my PM so we'll see what happens. :)

[Neon_Chaos]

Yes?

Chief what searches did you put in for tonight?

[DaddyTorgo]

st. Cronin visited me and I got a description that supports him being aphrodite.

He took away my vote today and will limit me to just voting tomorrow (which is fine by me).

I now trust cronin

[Telle]

Ok, I got a really odd PM. Who said they have the ability to change someone's votes??

[Chief Rum]

Heracles
Aphrodite
Hera
Artemis

[Alan T]

Finally discussion starts up again after the death of Hyperion. The momentum in the discussion however seems to change gears and start focusing on Anxiety who cries out,"But I am Ares!" In the end it appears that enough people have decided upon Anxiety, right when the sun sets...

Uranus makes his apperance and simply passes right by Ares, paying him no mind. "You are the one I am here for, you don't belong here anyways.. lets be off with you.." He points directly at Lathum. Your hopes start to rise thinking perhaps this was the last Titan....

Uranus continues where he left off,"While you may be a son of a God, this is no place for a mortal man.. Time for you to go home Heracles, your service here appears to no longer be wanted." Lathum has been lynched, he was Heracles a mortal hero!

Many of you are in shock, first of all that it was not Anxiety that met this fate, but also that some of you might have been a part of Lathum's demise.. when suddenly something else catches your eye.. Who got new lawn decorations?? Oh wait, this is no garden gnome.. its a stone statue of Chief Rum! It appears that he won't be any part of tommorrow's discussions.

Finally after several of you finish decorating Chief Rum's statue with Christmas lights, someone calls out.. In the corner lays dead the beautiful PurdueBrad! It appears that she died due to some unnatural causes.. Interestingly enough, going through PurdueBrad's things, you can realize that she was indeed an Olympian, however had some alterior motive here.. Scetched on a parchment was the drawing of all of the most beautiful women in the heavens with ugly lines through them... PurdueBrad has been killed, and was Hera an Olympian!

It is now day 6. Deadline is back to 10pm EST Monday night.
(if my internet is still not hooked up at home, I'll have to drive in to work to take care of it!)

Also ArlingtonColt has been penalized due to not getting a vote in.

[Raiders Army]

Got my PM and it seems as if I've survived another night. I guess Alan won't mind me telling you guys before he posts the results. ArlingtonColt came back as a Titan. The wording was slightly different from Lathum's, but it read like it was 100%.

[Raiders Army]

WTF? Okay. This is totally not what I expected.

[Abe Sargent]

Vote ArlingtonColt

[st.cronin]

Well, then, although he's been wrong before...

VOTE ARLINGTON COLT

[PurdueBrad]

Good luck Olympians, hope we win (even though I had my own win-set).

[st.cronin]

By the way:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Abe Sargent]

As Ares, in addition to being able to hgop action, I could hop a voter as well, and so I moved Telle to Lathum. HEre's why:

1). Self Defense
2). I felt we needed to get past the Lathum/RA thing.

And I'll follow the lead to AC for now as well.

[Lathum]

By the way:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

qft

[DaddyTorgo]

RA...how did you see lathum as a titan and yet he was heracles??

I guess with the wording being different maybe that is a tip-off.

so i'm guessing Hera was maybe the potential titan-convert??

I guess we go ArlingtonColt

VOTE ARLINGTON COLT

[Telle]

Well I concentrated on st.cronin.. and learned that Medusa is in the game. So, not only does it appear that I do not have the ability to direct my visions, but I learned something that's basically useless since we had already figured out that Medusa is in the game.

[DaddyTorgo]

lathum - I tried to save you man

[Abe Sargent]

Well I concentrated on st.cronin.. and learned that Medusa is in the game. So, not only does it appear that I do not have the ability to direct my visions, but I learned something that's basically useless since we had already figured out that Medusa is in the game.

Heh, you think? :)

[Raiders Army]

Hey guys, just so you know I wouldn't hold it against anyone for voting for me. I trusted my vision as opposed to common sense. For what it's worth on AC, I had trouble contacting the oracle last night and eventually it came back as a Titan. Hold one while I check my PMs.

[Abe Sargent]

telle, you mind telling us what your vote hop message sounded like? Any flavor behind it, or was it just "Your vote was moved"

[Telle]

By the way:

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Now, you DO realize that you took a vote away from Anxiety by nullifying DT's vote on him.. which then helped lead to Lathum's death.

[DaddyTorgo]

could cronin be medusa?? even though he visited me as a hot chick? maybe he was a hot chick with a hat?

still not sure what's up with Chief Rum...something he said earlier very much made me think he was Medusa...to the point where I was 99% certain. So there's something weird going on there.

[Neon_Chaos]

Well I concentrated on st.cronin.. and learned that Medusa is in the game. So, not only does it appear that I do not have the ability to direct my visions, but I learned something that's basically useless since we had already figured out that Medusa is in the game.

Hmmm. Can you explain again how your role works, Telle?

[Telle]

telle, you mind telling us what your vote hop message sounded like? Any flavor behind it, or was it just "Your vote was moved"

I suddenly got very very mad at Lathum and decided to move my vote to him.

[st.cronin]

I trusted my vision as opposed to common sense.

Word.

[DaddyTorgo]

that supports anxiety as Ares, so my trust for him is up a notch for the record

[Raiders Army]

Okay, re-read the PM again and it says something to the affect of "again I am sure" that AC is a Titan.

I think based upon that, we should re-think whether AC is a Titan or not. The again thing gets me.

[Telle]

Hmmm. Can you explain again how your role works, Telle?

I have visions after taking a potion. Nothing in my role PM led me to believe that I could direct the visions.. but I decided to give it a shot at DT's suggestion. It seems that what I learn from my visions is pretty much random.

[Abe Sargent]

I suddenly got very very mad at Lathum and decided to move my vote to him.

Bingo. Ares, God of BLOODLUST strikes. More proof. Just saying.

[st.cronin]

Now, you DO realize that you took a vote away from Anxiety by nullifying DT's vote on him.. which then helped lead to Lathum's death.

You can't POSSIBLY blame me for lynching the bodyguard. I have been saying for the last two days that Lathum was the bodyguard, all I got was "Um, well, let's lynch him anyway..."

I didn't want Anxiety lynched, either... I was hoping a 3rd candidate would emerge.

[DaddyTorgo]

so somebody's fucking with you again RA?

[Abe Sargent]

I don't lmow if AlanT will honor it, but:

Vote Nightfall

[DaddyTorgo]

fine...i guess Chief isn't Medusa. Which means that someone else is Medusa. Which means WTF is Chief?

[Abe Sargent]

He sadi he was a good titan, and AlanT has a whole section f rules pertaining to good titians, I think we shoul dbeelive him.

[DaddyTorgo]

but something that he said at one point had me 99% certain he was Medusa. I guess it could have been a good Titan thing too though...

[Abe Sargent]

AlanT, based on teh rules, if all of Cronus's squad are gone, and there are any good aligned titans, will teh game end?

[DaddyTorgo]

I think if he's a good titan he needs to die though for us to win, doesn't he?

so I think we take the "gift" that's offered to us there?

[Telle]

fine...i guess Chief isn't Medusa. Which means that someone else is Medusa. Which means WTF is Chief?

Yeah I'm pretty damn confused on this myself. I was sure that he had to be either Medusa or a Titan. Since he gave us Racer, I figured he wasn't a Titan and thus must be Medusa. But then he turned into a statue. I thought maybe Anxiety made him use his power on himself.. but it appears that Anxiety was telling the truth about being Ares and instead used his power to move my vote. Do you think Chief could have used his power on himself to gain trust?

[Raiders Army]

so somebody's fucking with you again RA?

While I didn't leave my mind open to that possibility the past few days, it's possible yes. Barkeep came back as a good scan. Telle (as far as I know) came back as a good scan. Lathum did not. I don't know about AC.

[Telle]

While I didn't leave my mind open to that possibility the past few days, it's possible yes. Barkeep came back as a good scan. Telle (as far as I know) came back as a good scan. Lathum did not. I don't know about AC.

It became pretty obvious that you were Apollo and the seer between your scan of me and Lathum, right? So maybe somebody is targeting you to mess up your scans (rather than targeting your target?). Or maybe they just got lucky with Lathum and ArlingtonColt is a Titan.

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe chief's the last titan?

[Neon_Chaos]

1) Render - Killed Day 3 Hermes / Olympian
2) Barkeep - Killed Day 2 Zeus / Olympian
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad - Killed Day5 Hera / Independant Olympian
5) St.Cronin
6) Neon_Chaos
7) Lathum - Lynched Day 5 Heracles / Mortal Hero
8) ntndeacon - Lynched Day 2 Dionysus / Olympian
9) ArlingtonColt
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy - Killed Day 4 Hades / Olympian
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety
15) Ardent_Enthusiast - Lynched Day 4 Atlas / Titan
16) Racer - Killed Day 5 Hyperion / Titan
17) DaddyTorgo
18) Raiders Army
19) Schmidty - Lynched Day 3 Minotaur / Monster

We have the following players left.

Chief Rum - claims to be Hecatonchires
st.cronin - claims to be Athena
ArlingtonColt - claims to be Hephaestus
Telle - claims to be Acelipius
Raiders Army - claims to be Apollo
Anxiety - claims to be Ares
Neon_Chaos - No claim
DaddyTorgo - No claim

I think it's clear that the last two unclaimed roles that are in the game are between me or DT. I know who DT is, and DT probably knows who I am.

It's clear we have medusa in the game and quite possibly 1 titan left. So one of the "revealed" people is lying about their reveal.

Telle confirms that Apollo is in the game. RA has come out to reveal himself as Apollo. But he then says that Lathum is a Titan... which is proven incorrect.

st.cronin has claimed that he is Aphrodite. Anxiety and DT say that st.cronin is Aphrodite.

ArlingtonColt has been useless this game... and has been accused by RA as a Titan... of course, RA has said that Lathum was Titan too.

[DaddyTorgo]

nice summation Neon

[Neon_Chaos]

Do you trust me 100% now, DT? We need to build a solid CoT.

[st.cronin]

One possibility is that RA is actually Apollo, but an independent Olympian, and that his victory condition was to eliminate the bodyguard? Just a WAG, trying to make sense of his play.

[Telle]

Do you trust me 100% now, DT? We need to build a solid CoT.

Do you recall what reasons we have for trusting you? Is it just that you've been really helpful?

[Neon_Chaos]

Do you recall what reasons we have for trusting you? Is it just that you've been really helpful?

View my summation post above, Telle. Only 2 unclaimed roles in the game that have been confirmed to be in the game.

[Neon_Chaos]

That was meant to say "Only 2 unclaimed roles left in the game that have been confirmed to be in the game."

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmmmm

[Neon_Chaos]

Anxiety, you can direct someone's ability and use it on someone else, right?

[Neon_Chaos]

DT, I think it's time for reveals. I doubt the Titans are daft enough to not know who I am.

[DaddyTorgo]

who are you then neon?

[Telle]

But could it be possible that Poseidon fake revealed in order to hide from the Titans? That would then make it possible that one of you is a Titan.

[st.cronin]

What are the "last two unclaimed roles confirmed to be in the game?"

[DaddyTorgo]

I can't quite recall why I had trust for you at one point...i thought there was a reason somewhere...

[Neon_Chaos]

If Poseidon fake revealed, then congratulations on hiding.

I am Achilles. I can use 4 points at night to prevent myself from being killed. 3 points would net me 75% survival, 2 points 50%, and 1 point 25%.

[DaddyTorgo]

If Poseidon fake revealed, then congratulations on hiding.

I am Achilles. I can use 4 points at night to prevent myself from being killed. 3 points would net me 75% survival, 2 points 50%, and 1 point 25%.

that's your only power? that seems...i dunno...weak?

[Neon_Chaos]

that's your only power? that seems...i dunno...weak?

Well, I don't care about being lynched, which is why I have played without constraint. And I don't have to be worried about night-killed.

Why do you think I haven't played subtly the entire game?

[DaddyTorgo]

Olympians: You will win the game if you eliminate all of the Titans that are working with Cronus. This does not include any monsters that may be teamed up with them, or any Titans that are sympathetic to the Olympians cause.

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, I don't care about being lynched, which is why I have played without constraint. And I don't have to be worried about night-killed.

Why do you think I haven't played subtly the entire game?

good point

[DaddyTorgo]

so do we think AC is it then?

[Telle]

so do we think AC is it then?

Has anybody actually vouched for him? Or have we just been believing his story since, what, Day 2?

[DaddyTorgo]

Has anybody actually vouched for him? Or have we just been believing his story since, what, Day 2?

nobody's vouched. We just all agreed we'd buy it for a couple days.

but I think those couple days have to be over

did I already vote him? if not

VOTE ARLINGTON COLT

VOTE NIGHTFALL (if allowed)

[Neon_Chaos]

Anxiety, if you are telling the truth about your role, then we still have a bodyguard. You can use my protection ability on whoever needs it.

The one thing bugging me about AC is that could he have sent in a night kill if he didn't vote?

[DaddyTorgo]

well Racer could have sent it in too before he was offed

[Neon_Chaos]

But yeah, his weapon bullshit is dumb. And if he is good, then he hasn't been helpful whatsoever.

Vote ArlingtonColt

[DaddyTorgo]

i say we lynch AC, if he's not a Titan then we lynch our "seer"

I don't know what to believe with Chief Rum...*shrug*

could he be an evil titan posing as a good titan? That'd be interesting.

Not sure who medusa is. Clearly someone else is lying about their reveal too.

[st.cronin]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Neon_Chaos]

Can anyone vouch for Anxiety?

[Neon_Chaos]

This game is hard. Fuck. :mad:

I will be taking a break after this one.

[st.cronin]

Well, Telle is sort-of vouching for Anxiety, at least his ability works as claimed.

[st.cronin]

I don't think its that hard, I agree with DT - we lynch AC, if that doesn't end the game, lynch RA. If that doesn't do it, then we all give up.

[RendeR]

Hey no copping out on me now!! My game is NEXT! =)

[Neon_Chaos]

BTW, I only vouched for Telle because she claimed that the Achilles role was in the game, and she hasn't done anything wierd whatsoever.

[Raiders Army]

I don't think its that hard, I agree with DT - we lynch AC, if that doesn't end the game, lynch RA. If that doesn't do it, then we all give up.

The only thing I would caution about this is if I'm wrong. I know I am an Olympian, but you do not. If AC is an Olympian and you choose to kill me, that's the game over at that point.

Something to think about: why stone CR? To prevent him from giving away something? I think he was getting close to figuring it all out. He was onto Racer and then he revealed himself to be a Titan sympathetic to us.

[Raiders Army]

Also, I'd wait to vote for nightfall since we haven't heard from AC yet. I'd like to hear what he has to say before we vote on lynching him...especially based upon today.

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety, if you are telling the truth about your role, then we still have a bodyguard. You can use my protection ability on whoever needs it.

The one thing bugging me about AC is that could he have sent in a night kill if he didn't vote?

Submitted it. We'll see if it works.

[ntndeacon]

I'm sticking on Lathum. Gotta roll for tonight since just found out my cousin's son was killed over a game of Madden yesterday. I'll be back in the thread a little later. Sent in Night Actions, so the scan is in.

You and he are certainly in my prayers.

[ArlingtonColt]

I thought we were on break for the weekend? Alot has happened I'm not sure I can catch up on the reading... not that it matters as the titans have convinced you that I lied about my reveal. I was out of town all weekend and haven't been on at all... so how could I possibly be a titan?

[Neon_Chaos]

Unvote ArlingtonColt

Arlington, why shouldn't we vote for you?

What happened to the weapon that you were building?

[Alan T]

I don't lmow if AlanT will honor it, but:

Vote Nightfall

If everyone, including the candidate that is a runaway lynch choice is for it, I will honor a Nightfall, but it needs to be unanimous. Otherwise the deadline is still 10pm EST

[Alan T]

AlanT, based on teh rules, if all of Cronus's squad are gone, and there are any good aligned titans, will teh game end?

The Olympians will win once all of the Titans that support Cronus are dead.

[ArlingtonColt]

Well I wasn't around all weekend for one thing.. If anyone ever saw me on the forums its a bold faced lie... I wasn't in town, I thought we were on weekend break and I didn't even make it back into town last night until after the deadline which I am sorry about. The weapon was a 4 day project... the Early deadline sent me back 2 days in the building process (that night plus the penalty for the next night) I will vote nightfall.. if everyone still wants it.

[Raiders Army]

Well I wasn't around all weekend for one thing.. If anyone ever saw me on the forums its a bold faced lie... I wasn't in town, I thought we were on weekend break and I didn't even make it back into town last night until after the deadline which I am sorry about. The weapon was a 4 day project... the Early deadline sent me back 2 days in the building process (that night plus the penalty for the next night) I will vote nightfall.. if everyone still wants it.

What happened in nutshell:

I reveal that I am Apollo and that Lathum is a Titan.
CR revealed that he was a Titan sympathetic to the Olympians and that Racer is a Titan.
Racer was killed, revealing as a Titan.
We lynched Lathum and he turned out to be Heracules.
I scanned you and you turned out to be a Titan. I don't know whether to trust this scan or not based upon Lathum's.

Generically that's it.

[Telle]

I think ArlingtonColt is our best bet at this point. He has the least to support his position at this time.. and the weapon story seems to be getting stretched pretty thin.

I still think there's something off about Chief Rum, but I'm not sure what it is. And the whole thing with Raiders Army is just odd. Since I know that Apollo is in the game I believe he is who he says he is.. but either someone is messing with him or he's not playing for the same victory condition that the rest of us are.

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT
VOTE NIGHTFALL

[DaddyTorgo]

i just checked my original PM and I maintain that Chief Rum is Medusa. There's no other explanation for it.

[DaddyTorgo]

don't ask me how he managed to stone himself, but there's no other explanation for something that he said earlier in the game

[DaddyTorgo]

UNLESS

he is a Titan and merely said what he said as cover

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE ARLINGTON COLT

VOTE CHIEF RUM

if he's medusa then he's gone. but if he's actually a titan then it could be the game-winner

[Telle]

The only thing that makes me really doubt that Chief Rum is an evil Titan is that he's the one that told us that Racer was a Titan. Now the whole AE/Racer standoff thing was a ballsy move.. but to sacrifice TWO Titans seems a bit much to me. Especially since nobody was even looking at Racer any more at that point.

I do think you could be right about him being Medusa though. I REALLY didn't buy his story when he revealed.

[Neon_Chaos]

ArlingtonColt,

you still haven't answered my question. What happened to the weapon?

[DaddyTorgo]

telle - either he is medusa or he is a titan

worst case scenario he's medusa (and somehow stoned himself) and he stops stoning us

best case scenario he's an evil titan scrambling to stay alive however he can

Personally I think he's Medusa. He said something earlier in the game that should only apply to monsters (not titans, olympians, or humans).

[ArlingtonColt]

The weapon is not going to happen. It was a 4day project.. i was 2 days in when the early nightfall screwed my day 3 and day 4 building... imissed the day 5 vote thus ruining my chance to work on it last night and tonight... It's done for and since I can't prove anything it looks like I'm done for too...

If CR was a titan wouldn't he know who the last remaining titan is? Since all titans know each other?

[Neon_Chaos]

Vote Chief Rum

I never felt comfortable with his reveal.

[Telle]

I just think that it's a lot more likely that Chief Rum is Medusa than an evil Titan. And I'd personally rather try and get that last Titan rather than worrying about a monster that isn't part of our victory condition. Now if he starts stoning anyone other than himself, then yeah we'll need to get rid of him.

[Telle]

Wow.. a lot of dead people hanging around the thread today :)

[Neon_Chaos]

Wow.. a lot of dead people hanging around the thread today :)

No kidding.

[Alan T]

What do you all expect when Hades is killed off? All of the dead people just kind of float around.

[DaddyTorgo]

I just think that it's a lot more likely that Chief Rum is Medusa than an evil Titan. And I'd personally rather try and get that last Titan rather than worrying about a monster that isn't part of our victory condition. Now if he starts stoning anyone other than himself, then yeah we'll need to get rid of him.

i think it's more likely he's medusa too.

i could go either way today really.

but i'm not sure how a "medusa turning herself to stone" thing would work

[RendeR]

*floats around cackling insanely*

[Neon_Chaos]

I don't even care if we win or lose. I just want the pain to end.

[Neon_Chaos]

I am also up for nightfall as well.

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE CHIEF RUM

VOTE ARLINGTON COLT

[Neon_Chaos]

Are we voting for AC or CR? I can go either way.

[st.cronin]

It would certainly help me if whoever "stoned" Chief Rum came forward.

[DaddyTorgo]

i still think CR stoned himself. it's the only thing that makes sense given what i know.

so i guess we're voting AC

[DaddyTorgo]

but yeah...how bout it medusa....reveal?? we'll even let you live, you're not our prime target

[ArlingtonColt]

I'll vote nightfall if noone has changed their mind in 2 hrs.

[Neon_Chaos]

It would help if the guy who killed Racer yesterday showed up too.

[ArlingtonColt]

What would it hurt to mass reveal at this point? Are we sure we are only hunting 1 Titan?

[DaddyTorgo]

It would help if the guy who killed Racer yesterday showed up too.

you mean you haven't put that all together yet? it was poseidon. antaneus was one of poseidon's kids. wikipedia is your friend

[Neon_Chaos]

you mean you haven't put that all together yet? it was poseidon. antaneus was one of poseidon's kids. wikipedia is your friend

Lol. Never bothered. I'm asuming Poseidon was also responsible for Triton showing up?

[st.cronin]

And, um, who is Poseidon?

[DaddyTorgo]

Lol. Never bothered. I'm asuming Poseidon was also responsible for Triton showing up?

would make sense. another of poseidon's kids.

he had some powerful sea-sperm.

[DaddyTorgo]

And, um, who is Poseidon?

well it's either me or someone who fake-revealed as another olympian. i'm holding my role back because i want to try to leave that element of uncertainty for the last remaining titan.

[Neon_Chaos]

And, um, who is Poseidon?

Someone hasn't been reading. :)

[st.cronin]

Someone hasn't been reading. :)

I just checked your post from last night, which shows that nobody has revealed as Poseidon. Is that not true?

[Neon_Chaos]

I just checked your post from last night, which shows that nobody has revealed as Poseidon. Is that not true?

I'm pretty sure we all know who Poseidon is.

[Neon_Chaos]

Just went back a couple of days...

These are the people who were able to put in their votes during the early deadline day.

st.cronin
Anxiety
Chief Rum
AC

Apparently, DT and Lathum vouch for st.cro.
CR is stoned.
Which leaves us with AC and Anxiety.

[ArlingtonColt]

Anxiety did start the run on me today for what it's worth... Has he been vouched for yet?

[RendeR]

Watching this thought proces for the last two days is killing me....and I'm DEAD already.

[Neon_Chaos]

Of course, RA could be lying. I would have thought that the Wolves would have killed off the seer.

Which would mean Telle is lying about Apollo being in the game.

[st.cronin]

Of course, RA could be lying. I would have thought that the Wolves would have killed off the seer.

Which would mean Telle is lying about Apollo being in the game.

That would be a very odd play, I think.

[DaddyTorgo]

not so odd if they've been leading us down the primrose path for days and days and think they can get to endgame this way.

but i don't think they can be that coordinated. i don't think there can be 2 titans left.

[DaddyTorgo]

Neon could be lying...lied to RendeR early about going good to slip into the CoT...now Telle is covering for him by saying achilles is in the game and telle is medusa or something?

[DaddyTorgo]

don't think that's high probabilty, just throwing it out there

[Alan T]

Don't have nightfall orders from everyone so I'll be back later when hopefully my internet is hooked up at home!

[Neon_Chaos]

Neon could be lying...lied to RendeR early about going good to slip into the CoT...now Telle is covering for him by saying achilles is in the game and telle is medusa or something?

Yeah, but both Telle and CR say that Achilles is in the game. I am willing to be lynched/go one on one with anyone who wants to.

[DaddyTorgo]

like i said neon - i consider that a very low probability. just thought i'd throw my "pie in the sky" theory out there

I still think we go AC today. numerically it's the right play to make, by "standard WW-doctrine"

[st.cronin]

I think its gotta be AC. If its not AC, then RA is lying - but that seems unlikely (unless Apollo has some odd victory condition). It can't be Anxiety, because Anxiety didn't mess with Apollo's scan (we know what Anxiety did). It can't be Telle, because then RA would also be lying, and I don't think there are two Titans.

I suppose it could be Neon, but then Telle is also lying, and we're back to more than two Titans.

If there's one Titan its AC. I don't see any other possibility.

[Neon_Chaos]

like i said neon - i consider that a very low probability. just thought i'd throw my "pie in the sky" theory out there

I still think we go AC today. numerically it's the right play to make, by "standard WW-doctrine"

I'm surprised we're not lynching RA today, though. Considering he was wrong yesterday.

Unvote All
Vote ArlingtonColt

[DaddyTorgo]

i think we all attributed that to a Titan messing with his powers. And in fact we were trying to move the vote until that got goofed.

I like cronin's way of thinking about things.

still curious about who exactly medusa is...i wish that person would just reveal already.

i maintain that medusa has to be chief rum, just not sure how medusa stones herself, or what that was intended to do?

if AC isn't a titan then i think we lynch RA. maybe AC's medus and RA is the last Titan and not our seer in that instance?

I think the roadmap we're left with looks like: AC, then RA, then Telle, then Chief Rum

[ArlingtonColt]

Alright... Vote nightfall... I don't see anyone switching.. GL villagers

[ArlingtonColt]

Vote Nightfall

[ArlingtonColt]

For what its worth... Vote Raiders Army

[Telle]

Has Raiders Army not put in a vote or am I just not seeing it? I coulda sworn he voted for ArlingtonColt last night.. but I don't have his vote in my notes and I'm not finding it in the thread.

[st.cronin]

Thinking about this some more... if AC turns up good, I think Telle is the logical choice for tomorrow.

Unless Anxiety can definitely say that she did NOT mess with RA's ability. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what Anxiety did to Telle yesterday/last night.

[DaddyTorgo]

Thinking about this some more... if AC turns up good, I think Telle is the logical choice for tomorrow.

Unless Anxiety can definitely say that she did NOT mess with RA's ability. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what Anxiety did to Telle yesterday/last night.


mmm...good point cronin. i think i had RA and then Telle, but Telle then RA is fine too. Basically it's a toss-up. Telle hasn't been scanned, and her ability is "self-contained" which is the perfect ability for a wolf. She can say "oh well I didn't get any visions" or "oh i got a vision that someone who's already dead was in the game" or base her vision on the night actions that are revealed before she posts.

the more and more I think about it...

[Neon_Chaos]

mmm...good point cronin. i think i had RA and then Telle, but Telle then RA is fine too. Basically it's a toss-up. Telle hasn't been scanned, and her ability is "self-contained" which is the perfect ability for a wolf. She can say "oh well I didn't get any visions" or "oh i got a vision that someone who's already dead was in the game" or base her vision on the night actions that are revealed before she posts.

the more and more I think about it...

If AC is good, then we have to nail the titan tomorrow, or we lose. I think.

If CR is not Medusa:

1 medusa, 1 bad titan, 1 human, 1 good titan, 4 olympians.

If AC is good, and another Olympian dies tonight, then it's 1 bad titan vs. 2 olympians left tomorrow.

If CR is Medusa, then we have 2 more days.

[Telle]

mmm...good point cronin. i think i had RA and then Telle, but Telle then RA is fine too. Basically it's a toss-up. Telle hasn't been scanned, and her ability is "self-contained" which is the perfect ability for a wolf. She can say "oh well I didn't get any visions" or "oh i got a vision that someone who's already dead was in the game" or base her vision on the night actions that are revealed before she posts.

the more and more I think about it...

RA scanned me on Day 2. On my Day 2 PM I learned that Apollo was scanning me. RA confirmed this and that I showed as being an Olympian.

[Telle]

Thinking about this some more... if AC turns up good, I think Telle is the logical choice for tomorrow.

Unless Anxiety can definitely say that she did NOT mess with RA's ability. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what Anxiety did to Telle yesterday/last night.

Anxiety appearantly moved my vote from him to Lathum. My PM didn't mention Anxiety or Ares.. it simply said that I suddenly got very angry at Lathum and switched my vote to him. Anxiety then told us that that was his doing as Ares.

[Neon_Chaos]

Anxiety, force me to use my power protect DT.

[DaddyTorgo]

aaaah okay. didn't realize you'd been scanned telle. perhaps RA can tell us if you came back "olympian" or just "non titan"

[Telle]

Hmmm.. yeah, now that you mention it I don't recall if he ever really specified that level of detail. I do know he said his scan of me wasn't 100% (just like his scan of Barkeep wasn't). Also there was something about him getting sick the same night he scanned me. I had thought it was due to him scanning me when I was in my drugged state.. but he had commented on believing that someone did something to him.

[Abe Sargent]

Thinking about this some more... if AC turns up good, I think Telle is the logical choice for tomorrow.

Unless Anxiety can definitely say that she did NOT mess with RA's ability. I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what Anxiety did to Telle yesterday/last night.

I uased all of my Ap to vote Lathum and send Telle to vote Lathum. No Ap left for anything els.e I wouldn't have saved it for an action if there was a chance of me dying.

BTW, just realized, that if there is one TItan left, doesn;t that mean that the AP for the night action had to come from somneone who HAD AP to use? Tomorrow, if the game is still going, let's look in that direction.

[Thomkal]

:::breaks out a bag of microwave popcorn and settles in for the next few hours::: :)

[RendeR]

:::breaks out a bag of microwave popcorn and settles in for the next few hours::: :)


*Offers Thomkal some Goobers and Raisonettes too*

[Thomkal]

*Offers Thomkal some Goobers and Raisonettes too*

Ewwww

[hoopsguy]

The last few hours have not delivered.

[DaddyTorgo]

delivered what?

[Poli]

Pizza

[RendeR]

delivered what?


Anything relevant ;)

[Abe Sargent]

Who didn't vote Nightfall? This was just a waste to wait this long. Even AC voted NF.

[Neon_Chaos]

This is what happens when you leave the guys with ADHD alive. :)

[Neon_Chaos]

BTW, if there are 5 frikkin' starting Titans, I will be sorely disappointed.

[Raiders Army]

Need to catch up. Let me vote and stuff here.

[Alan T]

Who didn't vote Nightfall? This was just a waste to wait this long. Even AC voted NF.

DT and NC both voted Nightfall and then later changed votes thus cancelling their nightfall. Raiders hasnt voted yet at all and I am missing some actions. So got a few people.

[Neon_Chaos]

I'm all good for nightfall. of course, if someone hasn't had their vote in, it would be iffy.

[Raiders Army]

aaaah okay. didn't realize you'd been scanned telle. perhaps RA can tell us if you came back "olympian" or just "non titan"

She came back as Olympian, which jives with what has already been said. That is why I trust her. As a corollary, I trust Neon since he vouched for her before I did. Actually, it was his vouch that got me to unvote her since I didn't trust my vision.

Just thinking out loud here, but what if my visions are reversed? What if an Olympian scans as a Titan and a Titan scans as an Olympian? Thinking about it a second, I don't think that's the way it works since Barkeep turned out to be an Olympian. huh.

Tonight will tell how it rolls.

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

[RendeR]

Can a game of werewolf end with NO winner? ;)

[RendeR]

30 minutes to deadline and there is 1 active player and 1 ghost logged in here... WTF?

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah...i dunno

[Neon_Chaos]

You can't blame me for wanting to watch Monday Night RAW. :)

[Raiders Army]

I see Racer, Neon and Telle in here with me.

[Alan T]

Deadline

[RendeR]

You can't blame me for wanting to watch Monday Night RAW. :)


Umm, yes...yes, I can blame you or that.....

[Neon_Chaos]

deadline?

dear god please let this end

[Raiders Army]

Yes I did enjoy the game!

[Alan T]

Today's deliberations was a snoozefest for many of you... in fact most of you fell asleep from the lack of excitement, only to be woken up at night to the sound of Uranus dragging ArlingtonColt away. He apparently goes willingly, not even putting up a fight. ArlingtonColt was lynched, he was Hephaestus an Olympian!

About this time you hear a voice that was quiet most of the day.. it appears Chief Rum has gotten tired of just sitting around and he has rejoined you. Unfortunately it appears that someone else will not be joining you in the next day however... Raiders Army lies dead on the floor, his head has exploded from within it appears... Raiders Army was killed, he was Apollo an Olympian!

Day 7 has now begun. Deadline is Tuesday night 10:00pm EST

[Raiders Army]

rots of ruck raggy.

[Neon_Chaos]

WHAT THE FUCK MAN.

[Neon_Chaos]

Have all the PM's been handed out?

[Alan T]

Have all the PM's been handed out?

Yep!

[Telle]

Gah.. it's sitll not over.

[Neon_Chaos]

Anxiety is lying. I received no PM, nothing about changing my damn target. Jeez.

[DaddyTorgo]

-AC, -RA

interesting

very fucking interesting

[Neon_Chaos]

Wow, what a useless player AC turned out to be.

[Neon_Chaos]

So, Anxiety, what happened to me being forced to guard someone else?

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety is lying. I received no PM, nothing about changing my damn target. Jeez.

I told you that I wasn;t sure it would work but I'd give it a try. Maybe I can;t redirect an ability that HAS NO TARGET. Do you submit your ability and say "Protect 100%" or do you submit and say "Protect me, 100%". I can;t be blamed if I tried and whiffed.

[Neon_Chaos]

Geez. This fucking sucks.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, simple math time. We're getting low, so should we kill the titan we know is a Titan?

We could go CR today, just for the math. Sorry CR, I wanted to keep you alive if we won the game, but we might need to take it down a notch.

However, I do not beleive CR is the bad titan. We had a bad guy kill despite CR beign stoned, and that clears him of at least being a bad titan to my mind. Medusa or no, I;m willing to move on to somewhere else.

Someone is bullshitting us. Who has not confrimed that they are using their AP everyday. I used mine in my defense, and a bad guy kill still happened, so it's not me.

Whose ability is such that they could make up stuff without having to use AP and then get off a kill?

Telle.

Vote Telle

[DaddyTorgo]

Telle or Anxiety would be the places I look. Likely Telle.

[Telle]

And what about Neon's ability? That's as self-contained as you can get. I'm certainly not the only one that doesn't have an easily-verifiable ability.

Oh, except I DID know that I was scanned by Apollo on Day 2. And Raiders Army confirmed this.