Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Abe Sargent]

the timing of it seems odd.


why reveal?

Agreed. I was going to push CR a bit with a vote, but now I thinking of tweaking Telle with a vote instead. Of course, if the role does help us, then maybe I should just go with my gut and vote CR.

What's the case agaisnt Schmidty? I dont get that.

[hoopsguy]

RendeR, I've got a hunch on who you are in the game. However, that doesn't fit at all, as far as I can tell, with why you would not be able to act against me.

Hmm, going to break out Wikipedia ...

[Abe Sargent]

OK, so I'm undetectable by Anxiety on Day 2 - not a huge surprise as I was kidnapped (Minotaur's lair).

However, you trying to take action against me on Day 3 and failing is a big surprise. I've got a bunch of questions that I would like to ask about this, but I don't want to force you into talking about your role if you are not prepared to do so. So, how about this - you ask me questions and I'll try to answer them.

Who are you referring to?

[RendeR]

Also, I certainly did not expect you to name me, RendeR. I did not receive any kind of PM related to you at all today.


This is why I suspect a third party involved in keeping me from succeeding.

[RendeR]

Who are you referring to?


He was talking to me.

[Lathum]

This is why I suspect a third party involved in keeping me from succeeding.

Was a third party named?

[Abe Sargent]

So Lathum, since you are here. If you are the bg, but not Olympian, do the wolves attack you today? What do you think?

[RendeR]

I'm about up to ==========>here with al these reveals as well.

So many reveals and not a single denial.

I petty much am certain that the Titans KNOW what roles are actually in the game.

And I am beginning to think there is at least 1 if not 2 Titans in the group of revealers.

Anxiety
Arlington Colt
lathum
Telle

who else has revealed and remains alive?

[RendeR]

Was a third party named?

No names, simply "your ability did not succeed" ( paraphrased of couse )

[hoopsguy]

Yeah, the best idea I can come up with is that someone blocked your action. I don't know of any reason why you would not be able to direct an action at me, assuming my theory on you is correct.

I don't think it makes sense to delve too deeply into what I think your role is, so unless you want to explore the topic I'll drop it. I'm probably wrong anyway ...

[Lathum]

So Lathum, since you are here. If you are the bg, but not Olympian, do the wolves attack you today? What do you think?

why even discuss this?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine the order of my actions, it's up to the Titans to figure out if I am gonna bob or weave.

[RendeR]

Yeah, the best idea I can come up with is that someone blocked your action. I don't know of any reason why you would not be able to direct an action at me, assuming my theory on you is correct.

I don't think it makes sense to delve too deeply into what I think your role is, so unless you want to explore the topic I'll drop it. I'm probably wrong anyway ...


Best to leave it for now, suffice to say what I can do is pretty limited but in the long haul its a real benefit to the Olympians.

[Abe Sargent]

why even discuss this?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine the order of my actions, it's up to the Titans to figure out if I am gonna bob or weave.

Fair enough, I accept that.

[Lathum]

No names, simply "your ability did not succeed" ( paraphrased of couse )

hmmm

if the person who visited me night 1 is the same person that visited you last night we may have made a discovery.

I'll leave it up to that person to come forward should they so choose.

[Neon_Chaos]

hmmm

if the person who visited me night 1 is the same person that visited you last night we may have made a discovery.

I'll leave it up to that person to come forward should they so choose.

Lathum, I have a vague idea as to who it is you are alluding to... if we're talking about the same person... just based on his postings on the board.

[hoopsguy]

OK, if you are planning to weave instead of bob - or the other way around.

Don't stay home on your guard as you don't count on ratio. There are three "revealed Olympians" out there, so you can't guard all of them. Work on figuring out who the big two Olympians are and guard one of them.

Obviously, if you are a human/hero you may have your own victory conditions. You may be interested in keeping yourself alive as part of the game. Or you may think that my advice sucks. But the above represents what I think is the optimum play for today.

[Lathum]

OK, if you are planning to weave instead of bob - or the other way around.

Don't stay home on your guard as you don't count on ratio. There are three "revealed Olympians" out there, so you can't guard all of them. Work on figuring out who the big two Olympians are and guard one of them.

Obviously, if you are a human/hero you may have your own victory conditions. You may be interested in keeping yourself alive as part of the game. Or you may think that my advice sucks. But the above represents what I think is the optimum play for today.

They also can't kill all 3 olympians.

It seems like there are to many people trying to gain some insight into what I am gonna do tonight.

[Lathum]

here is the thing with Render.

If we were visited by the same person the I think Render is a bad guy. I was told who visited me. If it was the same person who visited Render I am wondering if there is some balancing mechanism involved and that's why he didn't find out.

[Neon_Chaos]

We need to get our act together, guys... send these Titans to sleep with the fishies.

[RendeR]

Yeah, lets leave off all this BG discussion, If Lathum IS the BG I'm sure he has the where-with-all to handle the role properly.

[Poli]

ANOTHER FLIPPING REVEAL?? COME ON.

[RendeR]

here is the thing with Render.

If we were visited by the same person the I think Render is a bad guy. I was told who visited me. If it was the same person who visited Render I am wondering if there is some balancing mechanism involved and that's why he didn't find out.


I was not visited by anyone, notihng occured BY or TO me overnight. My ability can take place at any time during a given day. I attempted to use it with hoops this morning and was simply told via PM from Alan that it failed.

I was a bit shocked as I had not had any problems the first two days, but the more I consider the possible titan and Olympian roles the more I feel that one of them intercepted my attempt.

Thats all I know atm, I really can't add anything more to it. I am not a titan and I am not in league with the titans. There are those who COULD verify this but I ask them not to for now. in another day or two it will make more sense to do so.

[Abe Sargent]

Can anybody tell me what the case vs Schmidty is, don't rememebr.

[RendeR]

OK, as I sit here mulling all this over I come upon a problem. Frankly its only really a problem for me, but thats another matter altogether.

First off we locked in on day 1 voters for BK, and narrowed that list down to CR and Telle.

Now I've ofered up the growing suspicion of fake reveals that I have and consider the 4 as suspect, conveniently, there is only 1 overlap there.

Telle.

This disturbs me.

[RendeR]

Can anybody tell me what the case vs Schmidty is, don't rememebr.

No clue, I have nothing on schmidty at all.

[Lathum]

ok, fair enough Render

[Abe Sargent]

I'm not the sort of WW player who goes back and reareads the thread, so if I don;t remember, I;m screwed. THat's why icouldn't rememebr if there was somethinv vs Schmidity or not

[Abe Sargent]

I'm going to push CR for now, but my vote is fluid baby!

Voting the Chiefing Rumming

[Poli]

There's schmidty. My vote's on him because we've heard next to nothing out of him.

My vote's up for a change after what I've read, though.

[Schmidty]

my day has ended up a lot crazier than i would have liked. i will for sure be home and active before lynch (caveat: game 2 of the WS and BC vs. VT football games tonight)

Very perplexed by AC. In fact I'm very perplexed by the lack of significant info that anybody has from night actions...lathum won't tell us about his visitor...AC won't tell us or doesn't know what his powers did...schmidty has been AWOL...

for now

VOTE SCHMIDTY


For 10,000th f'ing time: I WORK GRAVEYARD AND AM IN PST!!!!!!!! I AM NEVER AROUND IN THE DAY BEFORE 2P.M. PST OR LATER!!! AT NIGHT WHEN I CAN POST AT WORK, NO ONE IS AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are picking on someone who you think won't fight back, and you weren't even the first person brave enough to do it, so:

VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Lathum]

ok, Render has been pretty adament about Telle.

I am narowing it down between Telle and ArlingtonColt but for now it stays on ArlingtonColt

[RendeR]

I Heart Schmidty.

[Neon_Chaos]

Ummmm...

overreaction?

:)

[Schmidty]

What a bunch of chumps. Voting on me because I'm not around for reasons I've already stated is lame and weak. Nice strategy guys.

[RendeR]

Ummmm...

overreaction?

:)


Heh, no that is exactly the reaction I expected from him, anything less and I'd vote for him myself ;)

[Schmidty]

Ummmm...

overreaction?

:)

No.

I get sick and tired of people doing the same thing to me game in, game out. It gets old, and is a big reason why I rarely play anymore.

[Poli]

For 10,000th f'ing time: I WORK GRAVEYARD AND AM IN PST!!!!!!!! I AM NEVER AROUND IN THE DAY BEFORE 2P.M. PST OR LATER!!! AT NIGHT WHEN I CAN POST AT WORK, NO ONE IS AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HULK ANGRY, HULK SMASH!


Fixed. Love ya, big guy.;)

[Neon_Chaos]

No.

I get sick and tired of people doing the same thing to me game in, game out. It gets old, and is a big reason why I rarely play anymore.

Well, I'm glad that you showed up. :) So, Schmidty, other than the reactionary vote on DT, do you have any inclinations as to what has been going on, and who needs to be put under the microscope?

[Schmidty]

I would be much less pissed if someone says, "I just have a gut feeling about...." and then votes, than I am when people use the "He's quiet...." about a person who is always quiet. It's a weak ploy because people know I'm not always around to defend.

By the way, sorry for calling people chumps.

[Poli]

What a bunch of chumps. Voting on me because I'm not around for reasons I've already stated is lame and weak. Nice strategy guys.
I just want to hear more out of you. If I have to put an initial vote on you to do so, don't blame me. Blame yourself. I mean that in the nicest, mellowest Ardent tone that I can.

As is, my votes fluid...and will likely move to AC or CR.

[Poli]

You're my boy Blue, I mean Hulk. :)

[Schmidty]

Fixed. Love ya, big guy.;)

LOL.

That was the most fun I have ever had playing WW.

We need to have another one. Maybe DC Universe or something. :)

[Schmidty]

Well, I'm glad that you showed up. :) So, Schmidty, other than the reactionary vote on DT, do you have any inclinations as to what has been going on, and who needs to be put under the microscope?

You know what, I'm just going to be honest and say no, I don't have a feel about anyone. I still need to go back and read the past 4 pages better, but I must say that I don't have anything solid other than gut feelings. I really feel bad about DG and Telle. Thats not just because of the votes, but because they seem to be tack-on votes this game so far.

[Telle]

the timing of it seems odd.


why reveal?

Because it seemed pretty obvious that a bunch of people were about to vote for me and I wasn't convincing anybody otherwise... and I knew I wouldn't be around much anymore today. As it is, I just popped on for a moment now, haven't even gotten to the end, and my daughter has woken up.. soo, I'm off to change a couple of diapers and head to the park, and probably won't be back online until close to deadline.

[Poli]

Raise your hand if you're with me:

You think Telle is high. I wasn't drawing the conclusion she was about to be lynched when I came in to read what happened while I was gone.

[Poli]

o/

[hoopsguy]

Schmidty, I've got another one coming up in two games. Will be a continuation of the last game.

But I do agree with the others who have suggested they would like you to offer more thoughts on the current game status. I didn't go with the "vote low poster" strategy for review today because I think there is a good direction to follow, but that is normally my default logic when I'm stumped.

[Abe Sargent]

Fixed. Love ya, big guy.;)

I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING too. :)

[Poli]

Credit to Telle though: I certainly missed RA's vote on her last night.

[RendeR]

o/


I withhold my hand raising for fear of being lynched IRL when i get home......

[Lathum]

ok, I guess I didn't get the feeling people were about to vote for you.

[Schmidty]

By the way, I broke my finger this afternoon, so it's hard to type.

True story - at about noon, my daughter and I were leaving her school after I picked her up. I was buckling her in, and she looked at me and said "Daddy, you look tired", so I starting singing "I Will Survive", and kind of danced. As I was singing like an idiot and squirm-dancing, I slammed my left index finger in the door. Long story short, I said some bad words, then went in to the school nurse, and got a splint (after cleaning all of the blood and getting some swelling down), and a lollipop.

So I'm already in a foul mood. :)

[RendeR]

So I'm already in a foul mood. :)



Chicken, turkey? perhaps duck? or maybe something more gamey, say...pheasent or goose?

[path12]

So I'm already in a foul mood. :)

Even after the lollipop?

[Poli]

What flavor?

[Alan T]

By the way, I broke my finger this afternoon, so it's hard to type.

True story - at about noon, my daughter and I were leaving her school after I picked her up. I was buckling her in, and she looked at me and said "Daddy, you look tired", so I starting singing "I Will Survive", and kind of danced. As I was singing like an idiot and squirm-dancing, I slammed my left index finger in the door. Long story short, I said some bad words, then went in to the school nurse, and got a splint (after cleaning all of the blood and getting some swelling down), and a lollipop.

So I'm already in a foul mood. :)


How can you be in a foul mood after getting a lollipop??

[Schmidty]

What flavor?

It was a root beer Dum-Dum. Kind of fitting.

[Lathum]

ok, I guess I didn't get the feeling people were about to vote for you.

in reference to Telle

[Poli]

I guess you always hurt the ones you love. giggle :)

[Lathum]

school nurse, lol

[Schmidty]

But I do agree with the others who have suggested they would like you to offer more thoughts on the current game status.

As I said in response to Neon's post, I can honestly say that I don't have a good feel this game. I've never been a brilliant WW analyst, and this game is no different. The only thing I have is my gut, and that's DG and Telle, and not only because that they voted for me, but because they tacked on votes with no reason, not even a "gut feeling", or anything. Telle especially makes me uneasy. In fact:

UNVOTE DADDYTORGO

VOTE TELLE

[Lathum]

Schmidty, who is DG?

[Neon_Chaos]

I don't like the votes on Telle, but I'm not too keen on defending her either.

I can 95% say that she's telling the truth, but I guess you guys can't be convinced either. Of course, if she gets lynched and turns out bad, I'm going to look really stupid for vouching for her.

For now.

Vote Hoopsguy

Only one point.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, who is DG?

DaddyGorgo apparantly.

[Lathum]

DaddyGorgo apparantly.

oh, of course

[Poli]

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY
VOTE CHIEF RUM

[Schmidty]

I want to look at some stuff, and try to be more analytical, but since I am lazy, can anyone help a man in pain and list all of the role-reveals so far?

[DaddyTorgo]

looks like I got catching up to do when I get home!! was afk on a conferenca call from like 3:45 on. does anyone have an ability that has helped them and proven beneficial to the olympians? don't have to say what just...do you have one?

[Poli]

OOG Issue: I may not be available for the rest of the night (wife is going batty for some reason, I smell a stupid fight coming on for absolutely stupid reasons)...in about 1 hour when she gets home.

[Poli]

I'll keep you in the know. Rolls eyes.

[Lathum]

looks like I got catching up to do when I get home!! was afk on a conferenca call from like 3:45 on. does anyone have an ability that has helped them and proven beneficial to the olympians? don't have to say what just...do you have one?

ummm, yeah

[Schmidty]

OOG Issue: I may not be available for the rest of the night (wife is going batty for some reason, I smell a stupid fight coming on for absolutely stupid reasons)...in about 1 hour when she gets home.

Slam your finger in the door. You'll get lots of sympathy.

My wife is even going to cook me dinner for once. :eek:

[Poli]

Crisis averted. I layed the pimp hand down.

Or so it seems. We'll see when she gets home.

[hoopsguy]

Reveals:
Anxiety - Ares (Day 1)
Arlington Colt - Hephaestus (Day 2)
Lathum - Heracles (Day 2)
Telle - Asclepius (Day 3)

Other roles in the game (reportedly):
Achilles (per Telle)
Apollo (per Telle)
Hades (victory conditions)
Poseidon (victory conditions)

Suspected roles in the game (acted on players, reported, seen):
Medusa (Neon stoned)
Minotaur (Hoops kidnapped)
King Triton (seen at end of Day 2, start of Day 3)
Atlas (speculation based on death of Zeus)

[Schmidty]

Thanks hoops. Very, very interesting. Especially the Telle part. I am going to have to rethink some things.

[Racer]

Vote ArlingtonColt

My vote is based on who my guess is to be the most likely player to be a Titan.

[hoopsguy]

A breakdown on the reveals:

In terms of reveals, Telle has given us the most information to use, for better or worse. If it is a fake reveal it is well done.

Lathum has given us information on his guards, but I hope that it includes some BS.

Anxiety has told us that I was a target of his actions, but he failed to locate me. No word on the other day/night action.

Nothing at all from Arlington Colt in terms of what he is doing with his actions - in fact, his posts on his powers were pretty muddled.

[hoopsguy]

As I stated earlier, I'll be waiting for Chief Rum to post before moving ahead with a vote. But I can't wait all night if he isn't going to show. If he hasn't been able to post before I get back (1-2 hours before deadline, depending on when kid goes to bed) then I'll probably be voting for him. Subject to change, blah blah blah.

[Schmidty]

UNVOTE TELLE

[ArlingtonColt]

they are probably muddled for a reason... one of you will find out what my power is soon enough.. if im alive anyways :P

[RendeR]

UNVOTE TELLE

Why?

[Schmidty]

Why?

Unless I am on the block at the end, I will not role reveal. It makes me doubley vulnerable - From fellow disbelieving Olympians, and from Titans willing to kill me.

[Schmidty]

Taking a nap for a little while.

[Lathum]

There is something about schmidty.

I just can't put my FINGER on it.

[RendeR]

Unless I am on the block at the end, I will not role reveal. It makes me doubley vulnerable - From fellow disbelieving Olympians, and from Titans willing to kill me.


ok, makes sense to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

placeholder catching up. On post #1014 now. Going to eat dinner

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

sorry man...forgot about the graveyard thing.

I like the idea of voting for telle, but I trust Neon Chaos when he says good things about Telle, so I guess i'm not going there.

I'm still perplexed by AC. Going to put the vote there for now. Just a one-pointer

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

[Raiders Army]

alright just scanned through what I missed and a lot happened. I'm going to have to go back and read Telle's reveal a little more in detail.

[Telle]

OK, as I sit here mulling all this over I come upon a problem. Frankly its only really a problem for me, but thats another matter altogether.

First off we locked in on day 1 voters for BK, and narrowed that list down to CR and Telle.

Now I've ofered up the growing suspicion of fake reveals that I have and consider the 4 as suspect, conveniently, there is only 1 overlap there.

Telle.

This disturbs me.

But remember the reason why the Day 1 voters were narrowed down to Rum and me is because you dismissed ArlingtonColt and Lathum because they had revealed roles. So really, if you cross the Day 1 Barkeep voters with the revealed people, you get three that are in both list.

[DaddyTorgo]

lathum...sorry...i meant other than you

[Raiders Army]

Going back to it, I feel fairly certain that Neon, Telle, DT, and RendeR are good.

UNVOTE TELLE

I will go back to ArlingtonColt, whom I voted for yesterday.

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

Gonna have to roll out here in a bit but I'll be on for about 15 more minutes before my son's concert.

[Lathum]

But remember the reason why the Day 1 voters were narrowed down to Rum and me is because you dismissed ArlingtonColt and Lathum because they had revealed roles. So really, if you cross the Day 1 Barkeep voters with the revealed people, you get three that are in both list.

I revealed day 2

[Telle]

ok, I guess I didn't get the feeling people were about to vote for you.

Guess I just got paranoid.. but I was seeing an aweful lot of "I'm thinking so-and-so and Telle.. so I'm probably going to vote for Telle." And knowing that my ability to get back on tonight was a total wildcard, I decided to take action.

[Telle]

Ok, the natives are getting restless.. time to put them to bed. I will hopefully be back in about an hour, provided I don't pass out while getting my son to go to sleep.

[Chief Rum]

I'm willing to wait to hear what Chief Rum has to say before casting a vote. But if there isn't a reason to go after the existing reveals (Lathum, Anxiety, or Arlington) then it is almost certainly going to be either Rum or Telle getting my vote tonight.

In the meantime, I'll keep asking questions as I think of them ...

I'm here and catching up. Just read this post. Don't know if any questions are forthcoming, but I will answer them (if there are any) when I reach the end of the thread.

[Raiders Army]

FWIW, I do not think it's a good idea at this point to vote for Telle. Considering Neon's vouch for her, that is why I changed my vote.

[ArlingtonColt]

Noone has countered my reveal yet there is still pressure on me? If you think I false revealed I'll go into my ability in detail... but I really don't think thats the optimal play... Why not go after a Titan instead of focusing your attention on my ability.

[ArlingtonColt]

Vote Chief Rum

Only logical vote for me at this point. I forgot Lathum revealed as a bodyguard, although he is a human and not an olympian I feel inclined to vote this way instead.

[hoopsguy]

Going to work on counting votes now. Not a ton of change since I last posted.

[DaddyTorgo]

because AC...your reveal doesn't claim you to be anything other than the equivelent of an ordinary villager

[RendeR]

FWIW, I do not think it's a good idea at this point to vote for Telle. Considering Neon's vouch for her, that is why I changed my vote.

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

[RendeR]

Anyone else ever find it difficult to really get your message across to others? I wish I could explain my suspicions better, but I just can't find the words.

[DaddyTorgo]

in fact, were I a titan, I think I would use the "reveal early with a name" strategy, before people became...dulled to it. Add that to the fact that you have avoided talking about your power or any results of your actions at all (perhaps to avoid accidentally claiming a power too similar to someone else's, or a lack of imagination), and you end up with heat on you.

note: I am NOT asking you to reveal what your power is necessarily. That's a decision you have to make for yourself if you're truly an olympian...whether it is worth it to the rest of us to have you alive or whether you should take it to your grave.

[DaddyTorgo]

dola: those points were in relation to AC. Damm slow internet for a second there

[Raiders Army]

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

At this point, I think that Neon has said all he needs to say. Also, I feel bad about her and her sickness...I hope her pain heals soon.

[Neon_Chaos]

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

I cannot, without revealing my role, and my ability. There have been too many reveals right now.

Remember, I am not 100% completely sure about it, but I can vouch for Telle's claims.

[Raiders Army]

Alrighty then. I'm out for the night. I already spent too much time on the internets and need to get ready to go out. Good luck to us all.

[RendeR]

*chuckles* Chicks dig scars..* I love that line....

She was feeling a bit better when I saw her earlier today, i'm sure she'll be ok =)

[RendeR]

Never enough time to convince pople that what you believe is what they should belive....ahh well.

[ArlingtonColt]

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?

[DaddyTorgo]

interesting guys. If we can save AC I think that might be a good play. At least until he delivers the weapon

[Lathum]

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?

huh?

can anyone validate you gave them a weapon?

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE ARLINGTON COLT

hoping to start a trend

[RendeR]

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?


it makes plenty of sense, bu so oes everyone elses reveals AC, its not wht you say that makes a difference at this point, its that fact that the majority of us believe the Titans know what roles are real and which are not and can make up whatever they like with impunity.

Its not that we don't belive you, but we have no real reason TO believe you? Does that make sense?


For what its worth I'm very confident that you are not a Titan. You may wel be something else and simply wish to hide that, or you may be being honest. We have no way to know for sure.

[DaddyTorgo]

huh?

can anyone validate you gave them a weapon?

no because what he's saying is he needs more time to make a better weapon.

FWIW this smells good to me...it's a mechanism alan has used in other games (or someone else has)

[Lathum]

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

[RendeR]

UNVOTE ARLINGTON COLT

hoping to start a trend

I tihnk thats a good move DT, hopefully others will get the message and not shoot the messenger.

[DaddyTorgo]

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

interesting point. I need to think more...i need to think more.

[RendeR]

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

Yer jumping at ghosts here lathum, the idea behind the role and ability makes perfect sense. Sure he COULD be lying, but is it safer to kill him now and perhaps lose out on a benefit like that? Or to give him another day to see what his ability might bring out?

If he doesn't deliver soon he's probably screwed no matter how convincing he is.

[ArlingtonColt]

I guess the thinking behind it is the weapon gives that player more strength... thus allowing them to have more weight with their AP's...

I really didn't want to reveal, but I feel it's necessary if we are going to get a Titan (or a monster) tonight.

[Neon_Chaos]

We need to consolidate our votes, guys.

[Lathum]

Well when are you planning to give this weapon away?

[RendeR]

Where's Hoops with that vote count??

[Neon_Chaos]

I have a feeling that Athena isn't the seer, Apollo is. The oracles are all connected to Apollo. We need to keep Apollo alive one more day, guys.

[Chief Rum]

Anyone have a vote count?

I'm troubled more by Telle, in the absence of more information from Neon, which he says he cannot give. But it seems I may be a target, and may need to vote AC or some other close target out of self-preservation. Is there anything anyone wants to know about me or my role? I think the role reveals by and large stink, and I don't see much gain from adding to it, other than I become a target, too.

I am not a Titan, so it would be a shame for you all to waste a day lynching me.

[ArlingtonColt]

I'll admit I probably played my ability wrong because it severely hamstrings me and has in my decision making.. I could have gone with "smaller buffs" and given out more... I was just worried about giving the weapon to the wrong person... and I wanted time to get my most trusted the weapon.

[RendeR]

Well when are you planning to give this weapon away?


hrm, when its ready? realie it IS only day 3, god knows it seems like a lot longer though.

Yer seeming awfully bullish about this lathum, are you sure yer not the Minotaur? ;)


Anyway, I'm sticking with my gut, it seems like there is a lot of reasons to change my suspect list, but I can't shake this feeling. I'm listening to the messages in my head.


VOTE TELLE

[DaddyTorgo]

yes...when are you going to be done with the weapon?

[Neon_Chaos]

hrm, when its ready? realie it IS only day 3, god knows it seems like a lot longer though.

Yer seeming awfully bullish about this lathum, are you sure yer not the Minotaur? ;)


Anyway, I'm sticking with my gut, it seems like there is a lot of reasons to change my suspect list, but I can't shake this feeling. I'm listening to the messages in my head.


VOTE TELLE

My gut says that you're wrong.

[Lathum]

I have a feeling that Athena isn't the seer, Apollo is. The oracles are all connected to Apollo. We need to keep Apollo alive one more day, guys.

why on earth would you say that outloud!!

[Neon_Chaos]

Maybe Apollo has already taken a look at hoopsguy... maybe he's scanned the only guy should should be scanned first in every werewolf game. :)

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of Post #1127:

Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Lathum (977), Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127)

[Neon_Chaos]

Of course, I'm not Apollo, so I can't say. Gut feeling, perhaps.

[RendeR]

Maybe Apollo has already taken a look at hoopsguy... maybe he's scanned the only guy should should be scanned first in every werewolf game. :)


Ok, clarify this for me...wtf does Hoops have to do with your statement and why shouldn't we lynch you for being dingaling enough to make it.

[PurdueBrad]

I've read through the last six pages about three times and am still unsure on what the right play is here. I originally came into today ready to put my vote on Arlington Colt but think it might be worth the risk to keep him alive for another day. I'm going through four people, but none of which am I getting a really strong vibe on. In fact, the lact of a strong vibe on anybody is making me wonder if the UTR theory or new guy theory might be at work here.

[hoopsguy]

If Neon is saying he is Apollo and that he sacnned me as a bad guy then this is a blatant lie.

I'll take the one-for-one trade if that is what you need to do to get a Titan.

[Lathum]

thats 2 very suspecty statements by NeonChaos

[Neon_Chaos]

If Neon is saying he is Apollo and that he sacnned me as a bad guy then this is a blatant lie.

I'll take the one-for-one trade if that is what you need to do to get a Titan.

I am not Apollo. I am merely pointing out that Apollo should scan you tonight. Or me. So we can at least clear people up.

[hoopsguy]

Neon, you've worked on hinting at being Apollo most of the afternoon after Telle's reveal. Earlier you were suggesting that we need to make the Titan's "swim with the fishies" - were you thinking of a fake Poseidon reveal at that time?

Lathum, if you don't have a compelling reason to trust Neon right now I'm putting the vote there. Was he your visitor earlier in the game that you trusted?

[ArlingtonColt]

Yeah let me announce when I will be done.. that makes 0 sense... I've already given too much information... If you feel like its a useless ability... Lynch me and lose a Olympian

[Lathum]

UNVOTE ARLINGTONCOLT
VOTE TELLE

someone better get a weapon soon.

I think lynching Telle will tell us alot about Neon

[Lathum]

no, it was not Neon who visited me.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm...interesting

[Lathum]

Yeah let me announce when I will be done.. that makes 0 sense... I've already given too much information... If you feel like its a useless ability... Lynch me and lose a Olympian

well I am going to say right now that I am not guarding you tonight so you may want to make your descion fast about who gets it.

[PurdueBrad]

AC, I'm trusting you for now. I'm not asking for the weapon, but if you're good, pick the one person you think you can most trust so that we can possibly build a COT around the two of you. Pick someone that you think can clear you and has reputation enough to be trusted.

[RendeR]

well I am going to say right now that I am not guarding you tonight so you may want to make your descion fast about who gets it.


Ever stop and think its not up to HIM Lathum?

like many abilities it depends entirely on the GM?

cut the boy some slack for chists sake.


I agre with your thinking on the telle/neon conection btw.

[Chief Rum]

thats 2 very suspecty statements by NeonChaos

He also tried to get you to come out with your BG targets last night. I am very suspicious of him right now.

[Neon_Chaos]

Neon, you've worked on hinting at being Apollo most of the afternoon after Telle's reveal. Earlier you were suggesting that we need to make the Titan's "swim with the fishies" - were you thinking of a fake Poseidon reveal at that time?

Lathum, if you don't have a compelling reason to trust Neon right now I'm putting the vote there. Was he your visitor earlier in the game that you trusted?

I actually haven't worked at hinting as being Apollo at all. It just came to me regarding Telle's mentioning that Apollo scanned her.

And no, that was a Godfather comment, regarding the fishies. We were talking about it in the office at lunch. :)

[RendeR]

Sometimes I think NC just gets really bored waiting for people to post and dreams up these intricate plots in his head that , from his internal perspetive, make perfect sense, and then crumble to incoherant crap once he posts them =)

[Lathum]

Ever stop and think its not up to HIM Lathum?

like many abilities it depends entirely on the GM?

cut the boy some slack for chists sake.


I agre with your thinking on the telle/neon conection btw.

he made it very clear he hasn't acted on his ability yet because he wants it to be max power so what exactly would lead you to think it isn't up to HIM when to use it?

[PurdueBrad]

Is anyone bothered by the snowball tangents we seem to be taking? First A.C. (who I admit I was willing to go after), then Telle, and now Neon_Chaos again (who I, again, admit that I went after on day one). Is it possible that these tangents are being manipulated to keep us from focusing on Titans? I guess I'm just surprised at the three different groups of seemingly landslide runs we've had today. Of course, I guess the reveals could be a partial excuse, but still.

[RendeR]

he made it very clear he hasn't acted on his ability yet because he wants it to be max power so what exactly would lead you to think it isn't up to HIM when to use it?


Wrong, what he SAID was that he chose to go the long way about doing it so that it would be at the max power when it was done, VERY different statement than what you wanted to hear.

His statement tels me that he had several options on HOW to make his weapon based on his PM originally and that in choosing one option he set it in motion already. Hence its not up to HIM as to when it ends, more or less.

[Neon_Chaos]

Come on guys, you really think that I'm that transparent a player?

My gut feeling says that Telle is good, and I can vouch for her statements, if not for her true loyalties. You can lynch her all you want, I think it's a bad move.

If Telle turns out bad, I will vote for myself tomorrow, how's that?

[Neon_Chaos]

And you can all pile on me, as well.

[RendeR]

Come on guys, you really think that I'm that transparent a player?

My gut feeling says that Telle is good, and I can vouch for her statements, if not for her true loyalties. You can lynch her all you want, I think it's a bad move.

If Telle turns out bad, I will vote for myself tomorrow, how's that?


Deal.

[RendeR]

Back in a few, gotta close up classrooms.

[Chief Rum]

Between my own bad vibes about Telle, and the combination of the suddenly suspicious Neon's behavior in support of her, I think I have to vote for her right now.

VOTE TELLE

Subject to change for self preservation, of course, should it come to it.

I hope someone has a vote count soon, because I don't have a clue where we stand right now. Does anyone else?

[hoopsguy]

We need to get our act together, guys... send these Titans to sleep with the fishies.

This was earlier today, his 2nd post after Telle's reveal



Lathum, I have a vague idea as to who it is you are alluding to... if we're talking about the same person... just based on his postings on the board.

Only potential positive spin I can put on this is that he and Lathum were visited by Apollo.

I don't like the votes on Telle, but I'm not too keen on defending her either.

I can 95% say that she's telling the truth, but I guess you guys can't be convinced either. Of course, if she gets lynched and turns out bad, I'm going to look really stupid for vouching for her.

For now.

Vote Hoopsguy

Only one point.

How would he be 95% positive on Telle? She named two people, a hero and Apollo. So I guess the door is open for him to claim the hero, but his following posts seem to suggest he has knowledge of Apollo.

I cannot, without revealing my role, and my ability. There have been too many reveals right now.

Remember, I am not 100% completely sure about it, but I can vouch for Telle's claims.

Again, he is backing Telle. Who was scanned by Apollo and knows that a hero is in the game. If you were that hero, would that be enough for you to vouch for her?

I have a feeling that Athena isn't the seer, Apollo is. The oracles are all connected to Apollo. We need to keep Apollo alive one more day, guys.

This is not subtle. Again, I can think of other ways to interpret the post but if Neon is playing as a villager this is a really ham-handed play. And I don't think of Neon that way; he is capable of being subtle.


My gut says that you're wrong.

Again, backing Telle.

Then there was the post I don't have quoted (missed it, I guess) where he tells Apollo to scan me.


So this read very much to me like he was saying he was Apollo, but Lathum is saying that he isn't Apollo.

[Neon_Chaos]

Sometimes I think NC just gets really bored waiting for people to post and dreams up these intricate plots in his head that , from his internal perspetive, make perfect sense, and then crumble to incoherant crap once he posts them =)

So true. :D

In fact, I have several scenarios:

If we lynch Telle and she turns out bad, people are going to pile on me tomorrow.

If we lynch Telle and she turns out good, people are still going to pile on me for "knowing" she's good.

[Chief Rum]

Come on guys, you really think that I'm that transparent a player?

My gut feeling says that Telle is good, and I can vouch for her statements, if not for her true loyalties. You can lynch her all you want, I think it's a bad move.

If Telle turns out bad, I will vote for myself tomorrow, how's that?

Which statements? Her action results? So your ability has allowed you to both know Achilles is in the game, and that Apollo has scanned Telle? What kind of role could you have to tell you all that?

Here's what I think: many have surmised the Titans know what roles are in the game. Let's say that's true. The Titans then would know Achilles is in the game (or maybe, he isn't, which means he can't counterclaim--basically this reveal means nothing for a Titan and can be tossed out without fear), and the Titans would also know if Apollo was NOT in the game.

[Lathum]

Wrong, what he SAID was that he chose to go the long way about doing it so that it would be at the max power when it was done, VERY different statement than what you wanted to hear.

His statement tels me that he had several options on HOW to make his weapon based on his PM originally and that in choosing one option he set it in motion already. Hence its not up to HIM as to when it ends, more or less.

that was your interpretation of his ability, that doesn't make it right.

I am getting tired of you my way is the only right way attitude that is all over this game.

I am sure you have good intentions and realize it's a game but just because you think something is the best course of action it dosn't mean it's the only course of action.

[Chief Rum]

This was earlier today, his 2nd post after Telle's reveal





Only potential positive spin I can put on this is that he and Lathum were visited by Apollo.



How would he be 95% positive on Telle? She named two people, a hero and Apollo. So I guess the door is open for him to claim the hero, but his following posts seem to suggest he has knowledge of Apollo.



Again, he is backing Telle. Who was scanned by Apollo and knows that a hero is in the game. If you were that hero, would that be enough for you to vouch for her?



This is not subtle. Again, I can think of other ways to interpret the post but if Neon is playing as a villager this is a really ham-handed play. And I don't think of Neon that way; he is capable of being subtle.




Again, backing Telle.

Then there was the post I don't have quoted (missed it, I guess) where he tells Apollo to scan me.


So this read very much to me like he was saying he was Apollo, but Lathum is saying that he isn't Apollo.

hoops, how does your scenario look if Telle and NC are both Titans who know whi is in the game?

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of post #1161:
Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief (1157)

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, have you been visited by Apollo (name the role, not the player) this game?

Given the discussion around that role, is this damaging to answer?

[Lathum]

it was not NeonChaos who visited me

[Lathum]

Lathum, have you been visited by Apollo (name the role, not the player) this game?

Given the discussion around that role, is this damaging to answer?

I was only told the name of the player, not the players role. Allthought I have a hunch who it was.

[Chief Rum]

Votes as of post #1161:
Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief (1157)

This does not look good for me. Both Neon and Telle can put me to bed. This would be a bad move, but not sure what I can do to change it. I don't have some huge role for the side of good, so losing me does us no harm. But, of course, I would like to keep playing and take down a Titan today. And that won't happen either way if I am lynched.

[hoopsguy]

Apollo scanned Telle Night 2 if she is telling the truth.
Neon seemed to back Telle hard after her reveal, which named Apollo and Achilles.
Lathum seemed upset with Neon for mentioning Apollo as the seer.
Lathum has mentioned that he was visited on Night 1 and has a one-person COT.

If Neon isn't Apollo, then none of this adds up.
If Neon is Apollo, then why the hell would he play it like this?
I'm very confused and want to understand this so I can vote appropriately.

[Neon_Chaos]

This does not look good for me. Both Neon and Telle can put me to bed. This would be a bad move, but not sure what I can do to change it. I don't have some huge role for the side of good, so losing me does us no harm. But, of course, I would like to keep playing and take down a Titan today. And that won't happen either way if I am lynched.

I'm not moving my vote on you Chief. It stays on hoops, and only one point.

You have to talk to the other people whose votes are on you to convince them to move.

[hoopsguy]

Neon, what is the basis for voting for me? Give me your scenario where I'm a Titan. I think I'll be amused by it.

[Neon_Chaos]

Apollo scanned Telle Night 2 if she is telling the truth.
Neon seemed to back Telle hard after her reveal, which named Apollo and Achilles.
Lathum seemed upset with Neon for mentioning Apollo as the seer.
Lathum has mentioned that he was visited on Night 1 and has a one-person COT.

If Neon isn't Apollo, then none of this adds up.
If Neon is Apollo, then why the hell would he play it like this?
I'm very confused and want to understand this so I can vote appropriately.

I never backed her hard hoops. It just looks ridiculously that way when you posted all my posts together. :D

If I did, I would have put my vote on someone nearer her vote count instead of on you.

I am willing to let Telle be lynched, actually, to see if my gut feeling is right. If it's wrong, then I'm next tomorrow, I suppose.

[Chief Rum]

I'm not moving my vote on you Chief. It stays on hoops, and only one point.

You have to talk to the other people whose votes are on you to convince them to move.

Are you as certain of hoops' evilness as you are of Telle's goodness, then? Is it this same ability you reference that tells you this? I am trying to understand what role you can have that can tell you all of these things.

[Neon_Chaos]

Neon, what is the basis for voting for me? Give me your scenario where I'm a Titan. I think I'll be amused by it.

Actually, it's this wierd paranoid assumption I have that the votes on me on day 1 were supposed to defeat the path12 votes, and that you or st.cronin maxed out their points on me.

So my vote was either on you or st.cro, actually.

Paranoid delusions, I'm sure. :)

[hoopsguy]

Also, I'm fairly close to the lead in votes here. I hope that I do not take over the vote lead.

I'm OK being lynched, even if it would break my streak (that I do try to protect), as long as I'm not the vote leader because that should help a lot in identifying who are the Titans. Clearly that would indicate that people went with multi-point votes to gun me down.

I would expect other Olympians to feel the same way, more or less, as long as they don't have one of the two key roles. And I'm also hoping this post deters the Titans a little bit from casting multi-point votes because they don't want the heat that comes with an "electoral college" rather than a "popular" lynch.

[Neon_Chaos]

And I am not certain about hoops' evilness or goodness at all. Which is why I hope to god Apollo scans hoops or me tonight, so we can build a solid CoT.

I actually put my vote on hoops because he isn't in any danger of being lynched tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Actually, it's this wierd paranoid assumption I have that the votes on me on day 1 were supposed to defeat the path12 votes, and that you or st.cronin maxed out their points on me.

So my vote was either on you or st.cro, actually.

Paranoid delusions, I'm sure. :)

Both Cronin and I had a chance to put votes on BK instead of you or Path on Day 1 at the end. If we were trying to keep Titans alive we would have put the votes on BK.

I can't speak for him in absolute terms, but the fact that he moved the vote away from Zeus and to you near the end helps his cause in my eyes.

[RendeR]

that was your interpretation of his ability, that doesn't make it right.

I am getting tired of you my way is the only right way attitude that is all over this game.

I am sure you have good intentions and realize it's a game but just because you think something is the best course of action it dosn't mean it's the only course of action.


You're right Lathum, the way I interpret his statement itself is different than yours, but the statement itself you quoted/paraphrsed completely wrong to begin with, hence my statement.

Besides, i'm sure my way IS the right way, if only people would get the message.

[hoopsguy]

And I am not certain about hoops' evilness or goodness at all. Which is why I hope to god Apollo scans hoops or me tonight, so we can build a solid CoT.

I actually put my vote on hoops because he isn't in any danger of being lynched tonight.

Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief (1157)

Hmm, I'm one behind in a game with variable vote points. Not in danger? OK :rolleyes:

[RendeR]

Forgot to ad smileies...


:):):):):):)

[Neon_Chaos]

And just to make sure that hoops doesn't get voted off.

Unvote hoops

[Lathum]

You're right Lathum, the way I interpret his statement itself is different than yours, but the statement itself you quoted/paraphrsed completely wrong to begin with, hence my statement.

Besides, i'm sure my way IS the right way, if only people would get the message.

I'm voting with you for the record

[hoopsguy]

I'm not hearing anything to suggest that Neon is Apollo, so I'll go after someone who I've suspected of being a provocator all game long for my vote.

Yes, it is outside of the Barkeep votes from Day 1, which was my plan for the day. Three of those people have revealed, Chief has not. So I'll still be willing to put a vote there for now if push comes to shove but I'm going to revisit my vote on Day 1 and a guy I think is clearly non-Olympian.



VOTE NEON CHAOS

[RendeR]

I'm voting with you for the record


Yeah I know, and I appreciate the semi-vote of confidence there. yer alright for an uppity bullheaded dude ;)

[Chief Rum]

I'm not hearing anything to suggest that Neon is Apollo, so I'll go after someone who I've suspected of being a provocator all game long for my vote.

Yes, it is outside of the Barkeep votes from Day 1, which was my plan for the day. Three of those people have revealed, Chief has not. So I'll still be willing to put a vote there for now if push comes to shove but I'm going to revisit my vote on Day 1 and a guy I think is clearly non-Olympian.



VOTE NEON CHAOS

Are you saying you want me to reveal? Will I suffer for not choosing to do so? These reveals have been regarded with suspicion, and if true, only gives the Titans more of a chance to unveil Hades and Poseidon. I am trying to avoid that, if possible. But I also think there is value to keeping me alive.

[Alan T]

Deadline

A shocking thing occurs, unexpectedly the sun ends up setting 40 minutes before you thought it should... As per the rules of Olympia, the night signals the end of that day's discussions.. You prepare for Uranus, wondering if this was his doing.


The official day ended at 9:20pm EST. Any votes or actions that occured after that do not count.

[Lathum]

Hoops' vote perplex's me?

[Alan T]

For the record, Neon's unvote at 9:20 does not count as it occured after the deadline. Anything before that will count. Vote totals coming shortly.

[Neon_Chaos]

Ummm... I unvoted AT the deadline, right?

[PurdueBrad]

CRAP!!! I assume this means that I'll be punished AP wise tomorrow. Oh Hell...

[Lathum]

WTF!!????

[Neon_Chaos]

Motherfucker. That's a cool ability. :) Making the day end earlier. Kick ass.

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, I guess my vote didn't matter. It appears someone has a very potent power.

The good news is that any vote analysis should be easier in terms of come-from-behind candidates winning due to only having some of the votes in play.

[Chief Rum]

For the record, Neon's unvote at 9:20 does not count as it occured after the deadline. Anything before that will count. Vote totals coming shortly.

Oh wow, someone dropped a bomb here. Must be Apollo. He is the God of the Sun, if I recall right.

I guess we'll see what happens now. No sense in me revealing. I guess hoops' vote doesn't count either.

[Telle]

I'm about a page behind.. but figured I'd try and jump in anyways.

The smart move for me would be to jump on CR, but I'm just not feeling it. I've had bad vibes from ArlingtonColt though.

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY
VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

Also, in the interest of self-preservation I don't want to vote on somebody without any votes.. but what do people think of PurdueBrad? I haven't seen anybody say much of anything about him, good or bad.. he's just been kind of off the radar. And then there's him volunteering that he upped his vote on Day 1.. but it's unverifiable and didn't affect the vote anyways.. so this could possibly be a ploy to gain some level of trust (as in, "if he was a wolf he wouldn't tell us that.. so he must be a villager"). Something to think about later.

[Neon_Chaos]

For the record, Neon's unvote at 9:20 does not count as it occured after the deadline. Anything before that will count. Vote totals coming shortly.

I take it hoops' wayward vote on my also doesn't count?

[Neon_Chaos]

I'm about a page behind.. but figured I'd try and jump in anyways.

The smart move for me would be to jump on CR, but I'm just not feeling it. I've had bad vibes from ArlingtonColt though.

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY
VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

Also, in the interest of self-preservation I don't want to vote on somebody without any votes.. but what do people think of PurdueBrad? I haven't seen anybody say much of anything about him, good or bad.. he's just been kind of off the radar. And then there's him volunteering that he upped his vote on Day 1.. but it's unverifiable and didn't affect the vote anyways.. so this could possibly be a ploy to gain some level of trust (as in, "if he was a wolf he wouldn't tell us that.. so he must be a villager"). Something to think about later.

The day ended Telle.

[Chief Rum]

Yeah, I guess people who didn't vote early will be penalized for this tomorrow.

[st.cronin]

I should just find the post I made last night, saying there are multiple players giving me bad vibes. It still applies.

[hoopsguy]

Also, if I do end up dead with Neon's unvote not counting then please string him up tomorrow. Because either he or Cronin would have had to power up the vote. And Neon conveniently unvoted right at the deadline - the kind of thing you can do when you know it is coming.

[Lathum]

Who want's to tell her? :)

[Telle]

The day ended Telle.

Yeah I saw that after I posted that.. evidently I'm typing slow tonight :)

[st.cronin]

I have to say I admire that game mechanic... I vote we make Alan run all the WW games here.

[PurdueBrad]

Yeah, I guess people who didn't vote early will be penalized for this tomorrow.

This worries me big time because if all the wolves had their votes in and a good number of Olympians didn't, they can manipulate tomorrow's lynch pretty easy to gain an extra kill.

[RendeR]

That is one seriously f**** up ability, DAMN I wish I had it =)

[Neon_Chaos]

Also, if I do end up dead with Neon's unvote not counting then please string him up tomorrow. Because either he or Cronin would have had to power up the vote. And Neon conveniently unvoted right at the deadline - the kind of thing you can do when you know it is coming.

If you end up dead, then it means st.cronin powered up his vote. I used only one.

[st.cronin]

Hang on, we don't know it was a wolf that did that. I guess that's probably a villager ability.

[hoopsguy]

So this should be the final vote count:
Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief (1157)

Do we know what is the tie-breaker, in the event that equal votes/points were used?

[Neon_Chaos]

Hang on, we don't know it was a wolf that did that. I guess that's probably a villager ability.

How many points did you put on hoops, st.cro?

[Telle]

So this should be the final vote count:
Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief (1157)

Do we know what is the tie-breaker, in the event that equal votes/points were used?

Well RendeR has a history of adding on to his votes.. and for reasons beyond my comprehension he's had it out for me since day one. So I'm thinking I'm dead.

[st.cronin]

1 AP went into my vote.

[hoopsguy]

Hang on, we don't know it was a wolf that did that. I guess that's probably a villager ability.

I'm guessing that whatever person did it knew they had the vote in hand at that moment and was worried about losing it in last forty minutes.

So if we lynch a Titan, I'll believe it is Apollo. But if we lynch an Olympian, then I'll be looking up Titan names with power over daylight/time/whatever.

[Neon_Chaos]

1 AP went into my vote.

Good. Then hoops doesn't die.

[Lathum]

I have to say I admire that game mechanic... I vote we make Alan run all the WW games here.

I totaly disagree but that is a discussion for after the game

[hoopsguy]

There are a couple of things I don't like about the power to put in early deadline:

1.) With simultaneous day/night schedule it means that many people probably didn't get to put in their non-vote powers
2.) People are going to be penalized points for not getting an action in before a deadline that they didn't understand

Otherwise, cool power.

[RendeR]

Well RendeR has a history of adding on to his votes.. and for reasons beyond my comprehension he's had it out for me since day one. So I'm thinking I'm dead.

If we lynch you and you turn out to be good I'll eat my collection of moldy ol ties that I never wear.

[Schmidty]

Deadline

A shocking thing occurs, unexpectedly the sun ends up setting 40 minutes before you thought it should... As per the rules of Olympia, the night signals the end of that day's discussions.. You prepare for Uranus, wondering if this was his doing.


The official day ended at 9:20pm EST. Any votes or actions that occured after that do not count.



Take a nap and the world goes to the outer planets..

[ArlingtonColt]

wow... I really don't know what to say about that.

[RendeR]

There are a couple of things I don't like about the power to put in early deadline:

1.) With simultaneous day/night schedule it means that many people probably didn't get to put in their non-vote powers
2.) People are going to be penalized points for not getting an action in before a deadline that they didn't understand

Otherwise, cool power.


Both very valid points, but considering the genre of the game, gods and godlike creatures, I think its a very fitting mechanic for THIS game. not sure I would like it cropping up everywhere though.

[Alan T]

This is what I have the vote count being as of 9:19:59:

Telle - Render (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief RUm (1157)
Hoopsguy - St.cronin (946), Neon_Chaos (1063)
arlington colt - Racer (1076) Raiders Army (1091)
Chief Rum - Anxiety (1028), Ardent Enthusiast (1066), Arlington Colt (1098)

No votes: PurdueBrad, Telle, Hoopsguy, DaddyTorgo, Schmidty (These players will be punished for lack of vote actions)


Someone please correct me if I missed something.

[st.cronin]

Actually we don't exactly know how the mechanic works. For all we know the ability was "make the day end 40 minutes earlier" and the guy/gal put the order in at noon and never took it off.

Or it could be something completely crazy, like "you have this ability but the possible consequences are an early nightfall."

[Lathum]

I didn't get my protection order in.

[Lathum]

and I really don't like the fact that those who didn't have a vote in are punished

[Telle]

This is what I have the vote count being as of 9:19:59:

Telle - Render (1127), Lathum (1141), Chief RUm (1157)
Hoopsguy - St.cronin (946), Neon_Chaos (1063)
arlington colt - Racer (1076) Raiders Army (1091)
Chief Rum - Anxiety (1028), Ardent Enthusiast (1066), Arlington Colt (1098)

No votes: PurdueBrad, Telle, Hoopsguy, DaddyTorgo, Schmidty (These players will be punished for lack of vote actions)


Someone please correct me if I missed something.


Yeah.. I voted for Schmidty in post 983.

[Neon_Chaos]

I didn't get my protection order in.

Seriously? Shit.

[Schmidty]

and I really don't like the fact that those who didn't have a vote in are punished

Yeah, it affects RL stuff, like people who have wierd schedules.

Pretty shitty, IMO.

[DaddyTorgo]

nice...way to fuck me. I lost my ability to do an action today and because I get docked i'll lose the ability to do one tomorrow.

[Lathum]

In case I die I think it is important to not let the discussion about the mechanic dominate the game. All that would do is play into the Titans hands

[PurdueBrad]

I have nobody to blame but myself. I'm usually better about voting early but I had been re-reading posts. Still frustrating to not get a vote in, no night action, and then have the punishment tomorrow.

[st.cronin]

OOG: I always make it a point in these games to get a conditional order in early in the day. I've seen too many times where somebody's internet went down, or they got hit by a car, or something.

This is a data point.

[PurdueBrad]

OOG: I always make it a point in these games to get a conditional order in early in the day. I've seen too many times where somebody's internet went down, or they got hit by a car, or something.

This is a data point.

Yeah, think I just learned that lesson here.

[Schmidty]

OOG: I always make it a point in these games to get a conditional order in early in the day. I've seen too many times where somebody's internet went down, or they got hit by a car, or something.

This is a data point.

I guess you're a better WW player than me. Congrats.

[st.cronin]

I guess you're a better WW player than me. Congrats.

According to you, everybody is. ;)

[Lathum]

After AlanT's conditional order to duke me last game I am not a fan of that strategy

[Neon_Chaos]

After AlanT's conditional order to duke me last game I am not a fan of that strategy

AlanT was a bad guy in that game. It was intentional.

[RendeR]

CRAP.


nothing more to see here, move along.....

[Alan T]

Yeah.. I voted for Schmidty in post 983.

Ok thanks, I see it.

[Telle]

CRAP.


nothing more to see here, move along.....

???

[Lathum]

deadline



oh...wait....

[hoopsguy]

deadline



oh...wait....

Love it

[Schmidty]

According to you, everybody is. ;)

Yeah, I guess that kind of rang hollow, didn't it. (?) . (?) (Hmmm...statement, or question???). (.?)

[Neon_Chaos]

yawn.

[Schmidty]

yawn.

WTFU

[Alan T]

You all stand there, scratching your heads for a bit.. No one is quite sure what exactly is happening. The sun has set, but where is Uranus.... Finally he appears at the normal time, without any great answers himself... "Who gave permission for the sun to depart so early? Everything has its time and place... "

Uranus clearly looks quite troubled by the event , and finally points at Schmidty while saying," Very well, You don't belong here.. SCRAM!" As Uranus points to him, Schmidty explodes in what is best described as Cow chunks.... everywhere... Schmidty has been killed! He was the Minotaur, a monster!

As several of you wipe the gross remains of Schmidty off of your clothes, the table, the walls... well everywhere... One of you suddenly point to the crumpled up body that lies where Render used to be. Just like Zeus was, Render is crushed almost beyond recognition! Render has been killed! Render was Hermes, an Olympian!

Day 4 has started. Day 4's deadline will be 10:00pm EST Friday night (or so we think......)

Game note: I will be away alot of the day tommorrow, so anything I receive will be responded to in late afternoon. If you have any urgent needs, please PM them in the next 2 hours tonight!

[hoopsguy]

Telle, just how many votes did you have on Schmidty?

[DaddyTorgo]

well at least we got the minotaur out of it.

So let me make sure I get this straight: those that didn't vote are docked down to 1 AP for this coming day? So all we can do is vote? Or we're docked one off and still required to have one used for voting so we have 3 for actions?

just want to be sure I get this clear and i'm too lazy to go look at pg 1

[Telle]

Telle, just how many votes did you have on Schmidty?

All of them.. I put them on when I voted for him before I left work in order to cover my ass.. and was going to switch it back down to 1 when I moved my vote.

And for some reason I kept thinking that meant 3 votes on him.. but it's three plus one, right??

[Alan T]

well at least we got the minotaur out of it.

So let me make sure I get this straight: those that didn't vote are docked down to 1 AP for this coming day? So all we can do is vote? Or we're docked one off and still required to have one used for voting so we have 3 for actions?

just want to be sure I get this clear and i'm too lazy to go look at pg 1

Yes, players who are penalized are limited to just a 1 AP vote for Friday. No actions are allowed.

[PurdueBrad]

DT, I believe we just have one AP each.

[Schmidty]

I wasn't a monster. I was just tired.

Seriously. I never fake RL stuff. I';ll post pics of my finger at work tonight.

By the way, that was absolute poop. Schmidty takes a minimum 3 game break.

[DaddyTorgo]

well that's fucking lame

i'm a little ripshit about that. Thanks apollo.

means I effectively lost 1 vote and 2 days worth of actions