Werewolf XXXVII: Middle-Earth - GAME ENDS. Who Won? Check it out!

[Abe Sargent]

Hellos and welcome to Werewolf XXXVII. Later I'll be adding flavor and rules. For now I wanted to post a placeholder post. If you'd like, feel free to go ahead and request to join. This game will not begin until Sunday Night the 5th (Monday morning the 6th) at midnight.

This game will be between complex and simple in terms of difficulty. It will not be as complex as my previous game, although it wil have suitable intricacies in order to keep you on your toes.

Good luck to you all. New and old is welcome.

[Abe Sargent]

Welcome to Bree, a village just east of the Shire and south of the Fornost Erain. Bree was an ancient settlement of man centuries ago, and continues to be an outpost to this day. Its townsfolk don’t take as kindly to odd strangers, especially them ranger folk. However, if you bring cheer and business, you’ll be welcomed just fine. Bree is one of the few settlements in all of Middle-Earth where hobbits and man live and work together in large numbers.

Occasional adventurer types might find interest and likely death in several nearby places. The Barrow-Downs are the cairns of old kings and stewards of ancient kingdoms. The dead are said to haunt these places, but the wealth of kings is also rumored to glitter under the soil. From the tops of the Bree Wall you can just make out the beginning of The Barrow-Downs on a clear day. If you get one of the night watchmen drunk, you might hear them speak stories of strange lights so far off as to be almost non-existent, at the edge of vision, coming from The Barrow-Downs.

Strange things have happened recently in Bree. Just recently, a party of hobbits arrived along with their leader, Mr. Underhill. That night, the Black Riders came, tearing through the city gate like a bolt of black lightning. All of the good townsfolk kept under their beds and felt as if the world would end. It did not, and the following day, the Underhill party left along with that ranger fellow, Strider.

Rumors began to mount. Somehow, the Black Riders knew exactly where and when to strike. Someone must have given them information, which means that someone in Bree is working for the agents of darkness. Who and why is something you don’t know, but you intend to find out!

[Abe Sargent]

The Rules:


This game is divided into day and night. Each day you will vote for a person to lynch. You will do this by bolding your vote, (i.e. Vote Anxiety). If you need to change your vote, bold the change ("Unvote Anxiety"), then bold the new vote, if any. If a candidate gets a majority of the vote (note, not a plurality, but a majority, 50%+1), then that person will be lynched, and be killed. All Day Actions are due at 10:00 pm EST.

During the night time, if you have a night action, you will pm me and let me know if you are using your action, and who your target is, if any. All Night Actions are due by 3:30 am EST. That means you’ll typically have 5 to 5 and a half hours to get your night action in to me.

There are a few things not permitted in any of my Werewolf games. You may never quote any part of my pms to you. You may not use words in my pm to identify others with the same pm. You may paraphrase the pm, but that’s it. Our pms are private.

There is no self-voting. No person would ever vote for themselves as a lynch target, and you may not as well.

No editing or deleting posts, unless you are me. Not even for grammar. Unless you are me. :)

No harassing other players. I’ll be a bit more strict about this than other gms may be. Keep it civil. Also, out of respect for families and children who may be playing, keep it clean. No curse words, and no innuendo. Thanks!

There will be two sides in this game, the side of light and the side of dark. Almost every player will be on one side or the other. On each side there are two factions, almost every player will be in one or the other faction, although a few outsiders may exist.


The Side of Light


The Townsfolk of Bree – This is, by far, the largest faction. Most of you are common townsfolk. You want to continue your life in peace and harmony. You want to restore the normal order and way of doing things back to Bree after all this ruckus was raised. Your goal is to get the agents of darkness out of your city. Permanently. You know that you cannot rid the town of the agents of darkness without the assistance of the rangers. You’d prefer not to give those ranger folk another excuse to stick around your town, but you also prefer rangers to the alternative.

The Rangers of the North – A small group of rangers, you are the descendants of Arnor. You ward off the darkness to protect the homes and villages of good people of the north, including the Shire and Bree. You understand that the forces of darkness would have overcome this area long before now if it were not for you and your allies. You want to delay or defeat the agents of darkness. You would like to save Bree, but you understand that this is merely one skirmish in one battle in one war. You need to survive to keep the battle going on other fronts as needed.



The Side of Darkness:


Agents of Sauron – You are a small group of people who actively seek to serve the forces of darkness through Sauron. You have been mostly quiet, getting the lay of the land, until you heard that your master sought Baggins from Bag End. The Black Riders appearance and your help has forced your hand and put your presence out in the open, where darkness fears to be. You want to control the town of Bree, killing all who resist. Unfortunately, those vile rangers make things more difficult. Ideally, you want to eliminate all presence of Saruman as well.

Agents of Saruman – You are still hidden from sight, but after those fools, the Agents of Sauron and their thrice-blasted Black Riders came through town, the extra scrutiny is interfering with your job. You are trying to slowly and surely bring Bree into the fold of Saruman through political, social, and economic manipulation of the town, occasionally relying on good old sorcery when all else fails. Only those insipid rangers stand between you and victory. An uneasy alliance rests between Sauron and Saruman, but you know it is all fake. Not only do you want to break Bree, but you want to remove your erstwhile allies and competition.


Winning Conditions:

The game ends when the forces of darkness can overwhelm those of light, or when all of the darkness is destroyed.

For purposes of overwhelming, one agent of darkness can overtake two villagers with no problem. They are sheep and easily pacified. However, the rangers are much more difficult. It takes two agents to overcome each ranger. (So, for example, if 8 players are left, three agents and five townfolk, then the agents of darkness win, because three agents can take five villagers with no problem.)

If someone is not a townsfolk, nor a ranger, nobody knows how easily pacified they are.


Victory Conditions:

Townsfolk of Bree: A major victory if darkness is removed.

Rangers of the North: Major victory if darkness is removed and at least one ranger survives. No victory if all rangers die, no matter what happens to darkness.

Agents of Sauron: Major victory if darkness wins and no Agents of Saruman are alive.

Agents of Saruman: Major victory if darkness wins and no Agents of Sauron remain.

If the Agents of Darkness win, and both Sauron and Saruman are still represented, a power struggle begins. The GM will determine which faction wrests control and which faction is ousted.

For those who may not be aligned with a faction, they will have their own victory conditions spelled out in their role pm.


This is a hidden roles game. No roles are revealed prior to beginning, although faction affiliation and the name of the role are revealed upon death. The role itself, may remain a mystery.


The People of Bree:


1. AlanT
2. BrianD - Lynched Day Six. Bill Ferny the Farmer, Agent of Saruman and Darkness
3. saldana - Committed Suicide, Night Three. Flawuria Huddlestump the Wife, on the side of Light and Townsfolk
4. KWhit - Lynched Day Three. Celestia Avenspring the Pepper Farmer, on the side of Light and Townsfolk
5. Scoobz0202 - Lynched Day One. Silvos the Dark Adept, on the side of Darkness.
6. ntndeacon
7. spleen1015 - Lynched Day Five. Hob the Hobbit Stableboy, on the side of Light and Townsfolk.
8. Lathum - Killed Night Three. Grum Rumblebelly the Dwarven Storyteller on the side of Light and Townsfolk
9. Tyrith
10. Schmidty
11. Swaggs - Killed Night Six. Barliman Butter the Innskeeper on the side of Light and Townsfolk.
12. Dodgerchick - Killed Night Five. Tavin the General Store Propriator on the side of Light and Townsfolk.
13. Jonathan Ezarik
14. SnDvls - Killed Night Two. Antalia Daverheft the Adventurer.
15. Blade6119 - Killed Night Four. Valen Gutters the Crazy Human who Thinks He's a Hobbit. On the side of Light and Townsfolk.
16. Fouts - Killed Night One. Imelda Francis the Herbalist, on the side of Light and Townsfolk.
17. LoneStarGirl
18. Mr. Wednesday
19. Izulde
20. st. cronin - Killed Night Three. Sirrion Huddlestump the Town Guard, on the side of Light and Townsfolk
21. Thomkal - Lynched Day Eight. Antaria Lodestock the Farmer, Agent od Saruman and Darkness
22. Grammaticus - Killed Night Seven. Revlir Hightower the Leader of the Ranger Mission on the side of Light and Rangers.
23. Sublime 2 - Lynched Day Seven. Agonar Thistleroot the Keeper of the Stables, Agent of Saruman and Darkness.
24. DaddyTorgo - Bodyguard Killed Night Eight. Ventrick the Lost the The Town Beggar, Agent of Sauron and Darkness.
25. Chief Rum - Lynched Day Two. Nob the Hobbit Server on the side of Light and Townsfolk



-Anxiety

[Alan T]

Love LotR, my favorite series of writing of all time. Been waiting for this game for a while! I probably shouldn't play since I will be traveling alot soon, but I think I'll probably be dead before I have to do any traveling anyways :)

So I'm in!

[BrianD]

I'm in as well.

[saldana]

with that start time, i will be able to play, and actually be on leave for the next couple games depending on duration, so i am back in.

[SnDvls]

is LotR knowledge needed to play or do well?

[hoopsguy]

Gah, I think I would really enjoy playing a game with this theme but I'm not going to be able to give any meaningful time to WW next week so I'm out for this one.

Words of advice to Sauron's troops - Anxiety likes to make it impossible for the bad guys to complete a night kill in his game :)

[Abe Sargent]

is LotR knowledge needed to play or do well?

In no way shape or form.

[Abe Sargent]

Gah, I think I would really enjoy playing a game with this theme but I'm not going to be able to give any meaningful time to WW next week so I'm out for this one.

Words of advice to Sauron's troops - Anxiety likes to make it impossible for the bad guys to complete a night kill in his game :)

Shush you! :)

[KWhit]

I'll play.

[Scoobz0202]

WW games have interested me, but I never decided to try it out. This theme makes me want to try Werewolf out.

Would it be a hindrance on you guys if I were to play? I have read the sticky with the rules. I also read a couple games that were already played to get a feel, but obviously you can only learn so much from that.

[Abe Sargent]

WW games have interested me, but I never decided to try it out. This theme makes me want to try Werewolf out.

Would it be a hindrance on you guys if I were to play? I have read the sticky with the rules. I also read a couple games that were already played to get a feel, but obviously you can only learn so much from that.


Heya Scoobz - welcome to werewolf! I throw ya in. No time to learn like the present, and you might as well play with a theme that you like! We love getting new players around here, and we're pretty helpful to them. I know, because I was a new player just a few months ago.

-Anxiety

[hoopsguy]

Scoobz, best way to learn is to play. Generally, people are willing to help you get your bearings during the first day or two.

[BrianD]

WW games have interested me, but I never decided to try it out. This theme makes me want to try Werewolf out.

Would it be a hindrance on you guys if I were to play? I have read the sticky with the rules. I also read a couple games that were already played to get a feel, but obviously you can only learn so much from that.

Speaking for myself, I'd say come on in. The best way to learn is to play, and you really can't mess things up. Everybody plays differently so you will add a nice new dynamic to the game. If you are on a team with PM abilities, someone will coach you along. If you are on a team without PM abilities, you'll pick things up quickly from others.

[ntndeacon]

I want in... Maybe We will even see Tom Bombadil! :D

[spleen1015]

Count me in. I was going to take a game or 2 off, but I like the theme for this one.

[Alan T]

I want in... Maybe We will even see Tom Bombadil! :D

You can see Tom, I get Goldberry

[Lathum]

I am hairy and have big feet, I guess I have to play.....

In

[Tyrith]

Ooh, ooh, me me me

[Tyrith]

WW games have interested me, but I never decided to try it out. This theme makes me want to try Werewolf out.

Would it be a hindrance on you guys if I were to play? I have read the sticky with the rules. I also read a couple games that were already played to get a feel, but obviously you can only learn so much from that.

Just jump on in; it's really not as hard as it seems. I managed to win my first game.

[Schmidty]

Well, I've taken a really long break, and have been doing a lot better now that I'm back from my time in Michigan.

I'm in.

[Swaggs]

Definitely in.

This might be a good one to advertise for on the General Discussions board. It could have some good, broad appeal and bring in some new Werewolves.

[Neuqua]

I'm in.

Been waiting for the right big game to play in and LOTR is as good as there comes.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I've never played, but I've been interested in it. I love LOTR, so this sounds like a good time to jump in.

[SnDvls]

in

[Blade6119]

Ill get back into the big games for this one

[Lathum]

sweet, 2 new players so far!! Welcome!!

[Fouts]

I'll play.

[LoneStarGirl]

Schmidty is playing? Plus two new guys? I definitly want to play... maybe i'll finally get to be a bad guy for once!

[Abe Sargent]

I know I said there was no cap, but this game is filling up fast. I;m thinking about capping it at 25.


Oh, btw, offical statements by me will be in Dark Orchid. Look for the Dark Orchid posts in order to find mine.

[Fouts]

Schmidty is playing? Plus two new guys? I definitly want to play... maybe i'll finally get to be a bad guy for once!

Hmmm.

[Neuqua]

I wanted to go ahead and congratulate Anxiety for being the only person on FOFC to ever spell my name right.

Thanks,
Neuqua

[BrianD]

This game is requiring a majority (not a plurality) for a lynch. This is different than normal, right?

[BrianD]

I wanted to go ahead and congratulate Anxiety for being the only person on FOFC to ever spell my name right.

Thanks,
Neuqua

You mean you don't normally go by Neukie? :)

[Tyrith]

This game is requiring a majority (not a plurality) for a lynch. This is different than normal, right?

Yes. Like in SM2 right now people are getting lynched with three votes out of 12/10 players and such.

[Mr. Wednesday]

In.

[SnDvls]

don't want to miss a day in this game it could be 5+ pages just to catch up.

[Mr. Wednesday]

For the new guys --
If you're on a side with PM privileges, generally you'll be able to get questions specific to your side answered by asking through PM.

Any general gameplay questions can be asked in the thread, and one of the vets will be happy to answer.

[LoneStarGirl]

I wonder how many games i have to play to be considered a vet

[Tyrith]

I wonder how many games i have to play to be considered a vet

I dunno, you'll always be "less experienced" than someone ;)

[hoopsguy]

For me, the line starts when a player stop deferring to the superior knowledge/experience of the "more experienced" players in the game and begins to value their own contributions relative to others.

[Tyrith]

For me, the line starts when a player stop deferring to the superior knowledge/experience of the "more experienced" players in the game and begins to value their own contributions relative to others.

Ooh, ooh, do I get to be a vet now? :P (RHETORICAL QUESTION ALERT)

[Lathum]

For me, the line starts when a player stop deferring to the superior knowledge/experience of the "more experienced" players in the game and begins to value their own contributions relative to others.

F'n Elitist

[Izulde]

If this isn't capped yet, I"d like to jump in :)

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, here is a less elitist, and easier to measure, response to the question:

When, after the game, several players on the opposing team acknowledge that you whupped them.

[LoneStarGirl]

So hoops you aren't a vet yet? ;)

[Alan T]

Hoops tore people up in the Star Wars WW game. I think thats the game that people stopped trusting hoops very much because of.

see you guys later, out for the night :)

[spleen1015]

I'm mostly likely out until after 11pm.

Bowling getting in the way of WW...

[hoopsguy]

I've had my share of good games and bad games. It's been a few games now since I "whupped" people.

[st.cronin]

I will play.

[st.cronin]

I've had my share of good games and bad games. It's been a few games now since I "whupped" people.

I thought you did very well in the Resident Evil game.

[Lathum]

hoops, I forget to mention this

:)

[Lorena]

I told myself I'd refrain from any WW games for a while and Anxiety had to come up with an LotR version.

Damn you!

In

[LoneStarGirl]

I told myself I'd refrain from any WW games for a while and Anxiety had to come up with an LotR version.

Damn you!

In

Its addicting. And its fun to not be the only girl. We should get loren or olie to play too

[Abe Sargent]

We have room for four more. If I missed your name, let me know


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

BK, you gettin in this one? I see ya lurkin'!

[Barkeep49]

Jeez I lurk in the thread for a few moments and I get called out. NO I can't play because I would of the deadline for night actions.

[Abe Sargent]

I can't even understand that. Awesome! It's like I flustered you!

[Barkeep49]

Heh. It does, upon rereading, seem like you flustered me. I can't play because of the deadline for night actions. With lynch when it was I would likely be asleep, or rather want to be asleep, when night actions were needing to be submitted.

[spleen1015]

I'm mostly likely out until after 11pm.

Bowling getting in the way of WW...

I thought I posted this in the Football game.

Sheesh. I'm losing my mind.

[Fouts]

we likez hobbitza... yes, we does.

[saldana]

When, after the game, several players on the opposing team acknowledge that you whupped them.

if this is the measuring stick, i am still a freaking noob....i never live long enough to whupp up on anyone....i honestly think i am the most overrated player of all.

[Grammaticus]

Count me in if you still have room.

[Sublime 2]

If there's still room, I'd like to make this my first WW game!

[Tyrith]

if this is the measuring stick, i am still a freaking noob....i never live long enough to whupp up on anyone....i honestly think i am the most overrated player of all.

You're not overrated...when they're killing you, it gives everyone else a chance to get away! You've appearantly set a sterling example for me to live by :)

[Tyrith]

Dola, I should rather say to die by, considering.

[Abe Sargent]

If there's still room, I'd like to make this my first WW game!

Welcome!!!

[Lorena]

Wow, excellent turnout!!

[path12]

Man, good premise Abe. I'm gonna have to sit out until I can get my daytime access working again. I'll follow along in the evenings though.

[Chief Rum]

Don't know if the quota has been filled, but if not, I would like to play. Thanks!

[Chief Rum]

BTW, I freakin' hate you doing a LotR game just before mine, you bastard Abe. :)

Everyone and their mother is going to want to be in on this one.

I may have to dump the Jack the Ripper themed game I was planning for something that might draw more people, like a Dark Tower theme I have been toying with...

[Lorena]

Well, I just found out my little girl has a fever (103 degrees), so I'll have to bow out. Sorry, I was really looking forward to it :(

[DaddyTorgo]

i NEED to be in this damm game!

[Chief Rum]

Wow, was that the fastest replacement ever?

BTW, sorry to hear about your daughter's fever, DC.

[DaddyTorgo]

Wow, was that the fastest replacement ever?

BTW, sorry to hear about your daughter's fever, DC.

totally coincidental. i just walked in from work and didn't even see DC's post, just saw the post in GD talking about the game and I was all "DAMM...I AM A LOTR JUNKY!!"

[Abe Sargent]

We are now full. I am not pulling DC just yet, because I want to verify her inability to play, but if someone wants to step up and grab the replacement spot, I;d tkae that person if DC does, in fact, pull out.

[Chief Rum]

totally coincidental. i just walked in from work and didn't even see DC's post, just saw the post in GD talking about the game and I was all "DAMM...I AM A LOTR JUNKY!!"

Actually, if I counted right, you were in anyway. After Alan announced room for four more, two joined and then me. So you would have been the fourth and last. Now there will be room for one more.

[Chief Rum]

And the man posts, even as I do. Really, just trying to get my in-thread post count up so people won't kibosh me early on for being away at work.

BTW...vote spleen!

All the evidence points to him being one of the Nine.

[Abe Sargent]

more rules posted

[Chief Rum]

Cool, liking it already.

Who all can PM each other? I figured the two darkness factions can communicate privately (within each faction, not to each other). Can the rangers?

[Abe Sargent]

Primers will be given to each non-townsfolk faction. They will say who can and cannot pm each other. As a hidden info game, more than that I will not say :)

[Abe Sargent]

DC is offically out, which gives us one extra space. Want it ntndeacon? I see ya lurking.

[Alan T]

I'll hate you by the way if you have some scene with Arwen rescuing people like the movies. Glorfindel all the way!

[Abe Sargent]

Would I do that?

[ntndeacon]

Anxiety ihave already signed up

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety ihave already signed up

Haha, sorry aboutthat buddy. So many peops signed up so quickly that I forgot who did and who didn't.

[ntndeacon]

not a problem, Anxiety. that does seem like a wolfish thing to do though.
Vote Anxiety
:D

[Thomkal]

If there's a spot left I will take it or be an alternate. Damn me for waiting for the rules to be posted before signing up. :)

[Fouts]

I think you're in Thomkal, just under the wire!

[SnDvls]

if this is the measuring stick, i am still a freaking noob....i never live long enough to whupp up on anyone....i honestly think i am the most overrated player of all.


Same here, except for the overrated part for me...I don't think I'm rated at all

[Abe Sargent]

If there's a spot left I will take it or be an alternate. Damn me for waiting for the rules to be posted before signing up. :)



You're in! We are now full.

[saldana]

Same here, except for the overrated part for me...I don't think I'm rated at all

for a second there i thought you were agreeing with the part about me being the most overratted player ever.

[SnDvls]

for a second there i thought you were agreeing with the part about me being the most overratted player ever.

well you are overrated you know ;) j/k

[Abe Sargent]

Tomorrow, Sunday, I will send out roles and primers to those folks that get primers. Do not begin teh game until I post "You May Begin" herem which should be around Midnight.

[saldana]

hey abe, that post is not in Dark Lilac....does that mean it isnt an official announcement?

[Abe Sargent]

It may mean that saldana will be stuck withthe self terminating role this time :)

[Abe Sargent]

And it's Dark Orchid. Get the color right.

[saldana]

It may mean that saldana will be stuck withthe self terminating role this time :)

if recent history is any indication, all my roles are auto terminating by the end of the second day anyway.

[Blade6119]

if recent history is any indication, all my roles are auto terminating by the end of the second day anyway.

Start pissing people off..the wolves just assume ill piss enough people off to get lynched and leave me alone...its quite nice, this recent trend of me living.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh good. so we are getting roles today!

YAY!

VOTE BLADE

*wink*

[Abe Sargent]

I am sending out roles now. This will give you several hours to PM me with any questions before we begin tonight at midnight. I am not sending out primers to the Rangers, Sauron Agents and Saruman Agents until later.

[Swaggs]

I'm looking forward to this game...

[Abe Sargent]

Roles have been sent. Primers have not. As a reminder, do not begin the game until midnight, when all of the information is available to you :)



-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

As an interesting aside, I tried to make the roles realistic, so there are eight female roles. If you are a guy, and you got a chick role, just remember all of the women who get male roles over and over again!


-Anxiety

[hoopsguy]

I expect this game to pass the FOFCHS game in post on Tuesday morning (Day 2). I'll say 11:48 AM EST.

[Blade6119]

I expect this game to pass the FOFCHS game in post on Tuesday morning (Day 2). I'll say 11:48 AM EST.

Hey, its all about quality over quantity. Lets see the bodyguard pull off two blocks in a row at endgame to turn the tables on the bad guys this game!

[DaddyTorgo]

really looking forward to this game!

[Abe Sargent]

The primers have been sent.

[DaddyTorgo]

*grumble*

do i ever get to be anything other than a normal schlub?

[hoopsguy]

DT, then there is the flip side of this statement - the one that Lathum and I have been muttering lately:

"Do I EVER get to be a normal schlub instead of a wolf?"

[Grammaticus]

So, are you saying that you are an agent of darkness??

[Alan T]

The boldest endgame move yet, Hoops declares to be bad before the game even begins! :) :)

[Abe Sargent]

And he's not even a player!

[hoopsguy]

VOTE GRAMMATICUS AND ALAN T

[LoneStarGirl]

Wow hoops, you really aren't playing? Shocker. I am sure you will have more posts in this thread then some players.

[Grammaticus]

Wow hoops, you really aren't playing? Shocker. I am sure you will have more posts in this thread then some players.

That is exactly what I was thinking, he likely has the most posts.

[Mr. Wednesday]

hoops, you were on the "normal" side in the Resident Evil game. :)

I've received my role.

[Fouts]

Checking in. Down with the darkness!!

[hoopsguy]

Wow hoops, you really aren't playing? Shocker. I am sure you will have more posts in this thread then some players.

Who do you think I am, Lathum? :D Schedule just doesn't work well for me with this game, otherwise I would definitely be in for what looks like a fun theme and a good group.

[Alan T]

Who do you think I am, Lathum? :D Schedule just doesn't work well for me with this game, otherwise I would definitely be in for what looks like a fun theme and a good group.

You must have forgotten I was playing.

[Abe Sargent]

The air of something beyond the mundane hangs in the ether. The tang of the unusual whets your lips. Bree is unaccustomed to these sorts of changes. You are a simple folk, with simple desires. You want to work, spend time relaxing with friends and family, and have a respectable life. You are farmers, millers, weavers, and other businesspeople. You are hobbits and man and the occasional dwarf.

When the Black Riders rode through the village, darkness followed in their wake. The taint of dark has not left the Bree since. Some of you have led the charge to do something about this. You are not an easily roused folk, but now is not the time for the sedentary. If there has ever been a call to action in the history of your town, it is now.

It only took a week before various town leaders had roused the populace. However, you need to look within the town, not without. Breefolk are hardened and ready to attack outside forces, but this is a rot from within. No people living in the shadow of the Barrow Downs would be accused of being weak. Hardiness is a way of life.

However, now a different fortitude is required. You know that the Black Riders had help from within these very walls. Now it is time to do something about it. All twenty-five of the various suspects about Bree are brought together, including various town leaders, people who had contact with Mr. Underhill and Strider, people who may have been in the area, and strangers that have recently made Bree their home.

You must decide for yourselves when and to whom you will administer justice. This may require quick wits, intuition, and a strong stomach.


As of right now, the game has begun. Lynch votes may begin, and you may discuss the game. Day One will end Monday Night at 10:00 pm EST.



-Anxiety

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Hey, did anyone lose a ring? I found one the other day. It's pretty bland and looks like your typical golden ring. Nothing really cool about. Although there is this one creepy guy who keeps bugging me for it. Something about his precious. Whatever. I think he's just a heroin addict looking to pawn it for drug money. So if you guys know of anyone who has lost a ring, send them my way.

[Grammaticus]

I'm here and will kick off a random vote

VOTE DADDY TORGO

I'll likely move my vote to someone who does not vote or show up later in the day.

[Chief Rum]

Hey, the common store is out of good shaving knives, and my feet are itchy. Can I borrow one of yours?

BTW, I am hosting a second breakfast get-together tomorrow, and you're all invited. Except for Gandalf if he's around. That ole bugger just causes problems, methinks.

[Chief Rum]

VOTE SPLEEN

I am sure some of you think this is a revenge vote. But I have my reasons. I swear it.

...

Okay, it's a revenge vote.

[Blade6119]

Is it time for my after breakfast snack yet?

Shut up stupid, we just ate

Im not stupid, im hungry

Your always hungry, its no wonder all the other hobbits look at you funny when you go to their festivities...you eat all the food

I cant help it, i have a bigger appetite then they do

So do orcs, but you dont see them eating all the food at the party

What do orcs have to do with anything smartass?

Dont call me a smartass, stupid!

*you all think im crazy, and finally my role supports that idea*

[st.cronin]

I will be busy all day on Monday.

vote SnDvls

He's currently outside my circle of trust. Not that that means anything.

[Alan T]

Hey, the common store is out of good shaving knives, and my feet are itchy. Can I borrow one of yours?

BTW, I am hosting a second breakfast get-together tomorrow, and you're all invited. Except for Gandalf if he's around. That ole bugger just causes problems, methinks.

No good hobbit shaves their feet!

[Chief Rum]

No good hobbit shaves their feet!

Good heavens, no! I don't want to shave to the skin! It gets cold in Bree at night, and the cobbles on Bree Road are simply unbearable in the morning after harvest time.

I am just talking about practicing some sensible grooming.

[Blade6119]

Look at me!!! I groom my feet too!!!! Why do you all keep laughing at me :mad:

[Tyrith]

He smells funny.

VOTE KWHIT

[Blade6119]

They laugh because they hate you

No, thats just their way of being friendly...i have lots of friends here

Like who?

Ummm...just last week Tinglebrook Applebottom had me over for some soup!

No, you barged into his home against his wishes and he threw the hot soup he was making at you in self-defense

He was just playing, hes does that with everyone

If everyone means just you, then yes

See, i told you he liked me...i bet all the other hobbits wish they had the special relationship Tinglebrook and i have!

[Lorena]

Funny how Anxiety's post is all in purple and he signs off in black.

[Chief Rum]

We should probably kill Blade now. The last time we saw this act, wasn't it saldana that did this thing, and he turned out to be a psychopathic multiple personality killer?

Plus, Blade said earlier in the thread his notoriety know ends up allowing him to live much longer. Can't let him get away with that.

[Blade6119]

Their plotting against you Valen, do something

What is a little ol hobbit like me to do? Besides, they would hurt me...im their friend

They can put that on your tombstone then

Im hungry

This is serious, pay attention!

Whats more serious then food!

[Fouts]

Funny how Anxiety's post is all in purple and he signs off in black.

Yeah, I don't trust him!


Re: blade - his conversations are actually interesting. I'm enjoying the show!

[Chief Rum]

Well, seriously, I don't know what to make of Blade, since the saldana crazy thing was in a game unrelated to this one. My guess is he is playing it something like Gollum, so take that for what it's worth (especially so early).

I will be out until a couple hours before deadline, as I work tomorrow, of course. But I should be around for the last couple hours of discussion.

Obviously, my Spleen vote is your typical Day One random vote, so I reserve the right to change it to a more worthy candidate, should one arise between now and tomorrow.

[Glengoyne]

Vote Fouts:D

Revenge vote, He's a zombie killer.

[Glengoyne]

Nevermind,

I'm not really playing this game.


Edit: Pardon the Interruption Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, here's a new rule. As of right now, I am banning people who are not playing from posting a vote. If you are not one of the 25 select, I don't want you posting bold votes for people. I've got 25 people to keep track of, and I don't want to accidentally include one of your votes and whatnot.


-Anxiety

[Alan T]

Blade, do you by chance know what happened to Deagol? You are sounding quite alot like his relative Smeagol. Whether this is intentional or not, I am not sure.

[DaddyTorgo]

going to bed now and won't be home till like 4:30 pm tomorrow

[DaddyTorgo]

grrrr for no edits. by 4:30pm tomorrow i actually mean 4:30 pm TODAY (monday)

[DaddyTorgo]

ouch Gram. don't vote for me and start a day 1 pile onto me plz!

nite all! *looks around the village before tucking himself into bed*

[Blade6119]

Blade, do you by chance know what happened to Deagol? You are sounding quite alot like his relative Smeagol. Whether this is intentional or not, I am not sure.

Do you know who this deagol fellow is Valen?

Not that i can recall, how about you Valen?

I dont believe ive ever been fortunate enough to cross paths with this fellow either. Im sure hes a rather entertaining lad though.

As entertaining as the hot soup game?

Why must you start that up again Valen, its not a game.

Next time i play, i should have Tinglebrook to play outside. Hes one of the short type of hobbits, and i keep banging my back on his ceiling as i run....oh, we just have the best of times, i wish you could be there to play with us Valen.

Are you crazy?

Like a fox!

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay Blade, i have never seen any of the LOTR's but that is wicked annoying.

[Alan T]

For those who never read the stories, or saw the movies there is a character named Smeagol who suffered from Dissociative identity disorder who had a second personality named Gollum. His disorder came about due to a traumatic experience as a younger hobbit where he killed his relative and best friend over a ring that "called to him".

I've been curious about Blade playing out a Dissociative identity disorder type personality so far this game since Gollum by no means was helpful or friendly in the stories. In fact, he was more of a hinderance than a help for the Fellowship. As is such often with things though, he did in fact play a big part in the final conquering of evil, but it was completely unintentional and driven off of his own greed.

My guess is most likely in a game like this while a Gollum character wouldn't be the main target for the good side to rid themselves of, he is definitly a type of character that we wouldn't want around. So I have been intrigued by Blade playing up such a character.

My initial guess is its either:

1) Blade playing a role to create some votes and keep from getting night killed

or

2) Blade playing an evil role but wanting to come out in a way that doesn't seem an evil role and thus through reverse psychology not get enough votes to be lynched due to appearing to try to get votes to be lynched.

[Lorena]

Yeah, I don't trust him!


Re: blade - his conversations are actually interesting. I'm enjoying the show!

As am I. http://forums.thebothanspy.com/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[Thomkal]

I'm here!

Just a simple farmer who sold that nice Mr. Underhill and that stranger Strider some vegetables from my farm.

(I will be gone on errands at some point this morning/afternoon, so I'll wait till I get back for my day 1 vote)

[Barkeep49]

Well I thank Blade for making this entertaining. I am going to attempt to read this more closely than I did RE, which I read in spurts. This looks like a good group and a nice theme.

[spleen1015]

Good morning everyone.

[BrianD]

If Blade is playing a Gollum-type role, I think we should keep him around for a while. For one, he might help us out when we need it, and two, I'd like to see if he can keep this up all game. :)

[SnDvls]

checking in

[Grammaticus]

Ditto on the Blade sounds like Gollum theory. He said his role supports being crazy and that is what happened to Gollum. If I recall Gollum started out as a hobbit and found the ring in the river and slowly turned insane as he wore it more and more.

It is odd that Blade is only using one name (Valen) instead of two names like Valen and Balen or such.

I also see the point that BrianD is making. If Blade is coming out so obvious as a Gollum type, it may support the possibility the role has value, maybe to all sides??

[Blade6119]

Valen, they are turning against you...what do you plan to do

They are just racist against hobbits, the snobby humans

Their not racist, other hobbits are having their deaths planned out as we speak

Oh, their racist all right...and their republicans

What does that have to with anything?

They just want to keep the short man down

And what does that have to do with you?

Everything, do you think im tall or something?

How many hobbits do you know that are 6 feet tall...

I just had a growth spurt, the others will catch up...just watch

[Blade6119]

Line 3 should read "Their not racist, no other hobbits are having their deaths planned out as we speak"

[BrianD]

Ditto on the Blade sounds like Gollum theory. He said his role supports being crazy and that is what happened to Gollum. If I recall Gollum started out as a hobbit and found the ring in the river and slowly turned insane as he wore it more and more.

It is odd that Blade is only using one name (Valen) instead of two names like Valen and Balen or such.

I also see the point that BrianD is making. If Blade is coming out so obvious as a Gollum type, it may support the possibility the role has value, maybe to all sides??

I would agree that the value is probably to all sides. Really, I'm sure he has his own victory conditions, so he'll probably have to play both sides to meet those conditions.

[Alan T]

Ditto on the Blade sounds like Gollum theory. He said his role supports being crazy and that is what happened to Gollum. If I recall Gollum started out as a hobbit and found the ring in the river and slowly turned insane as he wore it more and more.

It is odd that Blade is only using one name (Valen) instead of two names like Valen and Balen or such.

I also see the point that BrianD is making. If Blade is coming out so obvious as a Gollum type, it may support the possibility the role has value, maybe to all sides??

His relative Deagol found the ring in the river. Smeagol craved the ring so much that he had to have it. He said Deagol should give it to him as a birthday present. When Deagol refused, Smeagol ended up killing his best friend and relative for the ring, that is how powerful it called him.

After Deagol's death, Smeagol went deep under the mountain in the river bed to hide so no one could ever take his ring (his precious) away from him. Until one day a hobbit named Baggins supposedly stole it from him.

[Alan T]

I would agree that the value is probably to all sides. Really, I'm sure he has his own victory conditions, so he'll probably have to play both sides to meet those conditions.

You are assuming he actually has an independant role that wasn't listed in the game and its not just a ruse.

[BrianD]

You are assuming he actually has an independant role that wasn't listed in the game and its not just a ruse.

Yes I am. I could be completely wrong, but I don't see why Blade wouldn't be playing his normal game if he could be. I suppose we could always lynch him and find out, but I think his being around could make things interesting...and it is also possible that he isn't lynchable just so he can stay around and make things interesting.

[Grammaticus]

Blade,

Who is Valen?

[Blade6119]

Blade,

Who is Valen?

Why, i am...Valen Gutters at your service, how may i assist you?

[Blade6119]

*serious*

Ive got an accounting test and econ test this morning, as well as a nice 30 minute commute to ASU so i wont be around until at the earliest 1 PM(its 9 AM here as i post this)

*/serious*

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm not liking this deal where everyone votes for someone different, especially where we need a majority vote for a lynch.

[Thomkal]

Multiple Personality Werewolf. I love it, I can see a new game coming out of Blade's rantings. :)

[Alan T]

So far the people who haven't checked in today that I can see are:

3. saldana
4. KWhit
5. Scoobz0202
6. ntndeacon
8. Lathum
10. Schmidty
12. Neuqua
19. Izulde
23. Sublime 2

[BrianD]

Once we get some initial votes out, I'm sure we'll start pulling together and try to find a majority.

[saldana]

mr W is right, we need to come up with a couple horses to put in a race, probably just 2 to make sure we get to 50%.

as far as blade goes, i was the crazy one last time, and i was actually a good guy that rolled poorly when i tried to fix myself, not a homicidal loon as has been reported....my jury is still out on blade...i want to see how he votes before i make a decision on him. if he does have multiple personalities running around in there, i want to see which one gets to vote before deciding if he is a liability or not.

[Grammaticus]

That’s right, we need a majority to lynch. So I guess that is 13 votes on one candidate.

[Alan T]

The delimna as I see it, is on day 1 without any proof of anything the only way one candidate will receive enough of a consensus to get 13+ votes will be either they do something controversal, or they just don't show up to the game.

So far the only person doing anything out of the ordinary enough to be a candidate is Blade, but most people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for day1.

That leaves someone who doesn't show up , which is why I guess I posted the list of people who hadn't shown up yet to the thread. Right now I likely will vote for someone who is last or latest to check in. Without anything to go on apathy is the biggest reason I'll get behind someone today I guess.

The downside however to ganging up on one person without any great reason (such as voting for someone who doesn't show up) is you don't really learn anything about the vote. But on day 1, I think its probably the safest play. If they aren't going to be around to check in, I doubt they can be counted on to help discuss the votes on day 5+ when it matters the most.

[BrianD]

Here are the current votes:

Grammaticus - Vote Daddy Torgo (124)
Chief Rum - Vote Spleen (126)
St.Cronin - Vote SnDvls (128)
Tyrith - Vote KWhit (132)

I'm currently partial to the Spleen vote since he made such a big deal about never being killed in these games. :)

[ntndeacon]

Vote Swaggs

This is basically a throwaway vote right now. This majority thing could cause problems for us poor farmers. Although iam tempted to throw my vote to that thieving Gutters. He tried to steal my 'Maters the other day!

[Sublime 2]

Hey guys, first time-long time, just getting all caught up and checking in. Won't be around between 3-6pm, I gotta drive back to Boston.

[Grammaticus]

Vote Swaggs

This is basically a throwaway vote right now. This majority thing could cause problems for us poor farmers. Although iam tempted to throw my vote to that thieving Gutters. He tried to steal my 'Maters the other day!

Ntndeacon,

Do you have in game information on Blade (Valen Gutters)?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

My early leaning is to vote Blade. I don't like crazy. If he's not crazy then he's acting. And I don't like people who act crazy. The only reason you act crazy is for diabolical reasons. Or to be funny. I don't like funny. Too much funny business going on around here. The beautiful town of Bree has the stink of evil on it, and goofing around is not going to help matters.

[Schmidty]

Just woke up, so I'm checking in.

[Schmidty]

Blade is irritating me so much, that I'm leaning heavily toward him. I've read some of your reasons why we shouldn't vote for him, but none of them are very convincing as far as I'm concerned.

[Lathum]

Checking in, I am just an old villegar.

I agree with Saldana and Mr. W that all these scattered votes don't do us any good. I don't think blade would play his role this way unless he had a good reason to or was instucted to by Anxiety so I think we need to put some pressure on people and get information. I know this is usually suicide but I am gonna cast the second vote on someone.

VOTE DADDY TORGO

[spleen1015]

I don't know how much I will be around this evening. So, I will vote before I miss the opportunity.

VOTE Neuqua

Since Day 1 is random, I'm voting for someone who is responsible for my lynch in the Football game.

[BrianD]

My early leaning is to vote Blade. I don't like crazy. If he's not crazy then he's acting. And I don't like people who act crazy. The only reason you act crazy is for diabolical reasons. Or to be funny. I don't like funny. Too much funny business going on around here. The beautiful town of Bree has the stink of evil on it, and goofing around is not going to help matters.

For some reason, I love this post. :D

[BrianD]

I'm going to be doing some plumbing today (toilet is leaking), so I'll make my vote now. I should have plenty of time to do the work and come back, but any time you give an IT guy a wrench, crazy things can happen. So for now...

Vote Spleen

[spleen1015]

I'm going to be doing some plumbing today (toilet is leaking), so I'll make my vote now. I should have plenty of time to do the work and come back, but any time you give an IT guy a wrench, crazy things can happen. So for now...

Vote Spleen

It is not nice picking on us poor little hobbits!

[Swaggs]

There usually is not much to go off of on Day 1, but since he voted for me:

Vote ntndeacon

[Tyrith]

Personally, I'm okay with no lynch today unless we kill off someone that doesn't show up or someone that does something insanely dumb. The odds lean towards us killing someone we don't want to kill, role wise -- I'd rather save warm bodies to have to be night killed if we can. But if someone doesn't show up, we should off them; people have to participate.

[Izulde]

Oh, I do hope Mr. Gandalf shows up soon!

I do so love his fireworks!

But I'm not going to wander like those crazy Bagginses in the Shire. No sir, I'm staying right here in my own warren like a good hobbit.

Oh, time to eat!

[Swaggs]

Just catching up and re-reading over things a bit. It is interesting that no one comes out and says things like "Just a simple villager checking in" or "member of the side of light just checking in" anymore. When did this fall out of fashion? :)

[BrianD]

It is not nice picking on us poor little hobbits!

I know, and I always feel bad for people on the block day 1. Still, confess your Dark sins and come back to the Light and maybe I'll vote elsewhere. :)

[Swaggs]

Ntndeacon,

Do you have in game information on Blade (Valen Gutters)?

No mention of him on wikipedia and a google search doesn't bring anything up. I am guessing it is a made up name.

[Tyrith]

Just catching up and re-reading over things a bit. It is interesting that no one comes out and says things like "Just a simple villager checking in" or "member of the side of light just checking in" anymore. When did this fall out of fashion? :)

When we started looking at it on day 4 and using it as motivation to start killing people.

[Alan T]

No mention of him on wikipedia and a google search doesn't bring anything up. I am guessing it is a made up name.

Valen Gutters is a made up name. I'm not that worried about that though right now since my name is also a made up name. My name isn't one of the typical names of the area that you would normally see such as the Baggins, Boffins, Tooks, Proudfoot or Brandybuck.

My assumption is the names in the game are in theme but not the exact names of the time, so have given Mr. Gutters a little slack here on day 1.

[Grammaticus]

No mention of him on wikipedia and a google search doesn't bring anything up. I am guessing it is a made up name.

What I mean is, ntndeacon pointed suspicion at blade by saying he may change his vote to him because he stole his “maters”. I want to know if he has some in game knowledge that Blade is a thief, etc. Was he told he had a quarral with him, etc. If not, then he is just making stuff up and clouding the waters.

[Alan T]

What I mean is, ntndeacon pointed suspicion at blade by saying he may change his vote to him because he stole his “maters”. I want to know if he has some in game knowledge that Blade is a thief, etc. Was he told he had a quarral with him, etc. If not, then he is just making stuff up and clouding the waters.

How would he have in game knowledge of this on day 1 though without a night 0? I find it very unlikely that Anxiety put in ntn's PM that Valen Gutters stole his tomatos. I'm guessing Ntndeacon has some tomatos missing and Mr. Gutters over there seems like a likely suspect.

[Izulde]

A suspected thief, you say? Dear me, dear me... Well, we can't have that now! Someone might steal the pipe my grandfather gave me!

I'll watch from my window, but if nothing else changes my mind, I'll have to cast for that possible thief.

[Swaggs]

I was just assuming he was joining in on some of the roleplaying going on and playing up the fact that he is a farmer (ie: a good townsfolk-type).

Interesting thinking, though.

ntndeacon, are you a simple farmer or do you know something about Blade already?

[Swaggs]

Did everyone receive a name with their roles?

I know Alan did. I did also.

[Grammaticus]

How would he have in game knowledge of this on day 1 though without a night 0? I find it very unlikely that Anxiety put in ntn's PM that Valen Gutters stole his tomatos. I'm guessing Ntndeacon has some tomatos missing and Mr. Gutters over there seems like a likely suspect.

That’s what I wanted to clarify with ntndeacon. Did he actually get some in game info or did he just make it up? I’m assuming the only place he could get it was on his initial PM. So, did he have tomatoes that he was told were missing or is he just making that up?

[Swaggs]

Looks like conversation is at a bit of a lull.

I should be back in a few hours.

[Alan T]

Did everyone receive a name with their roles?

I know Alan did. I did also.

I assume from the PM that any villager got a name, and I don't really feel that saying my name or not saying my name would give much help to the bad guys. It feels to me like it is just in for flavor.

Perhaps "roled" people have names from the books or similar names to the books, I don't know.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

If you tell your name to the forces of evil they can control you. I know this for a fact. My mother (bless her soul) told me so.

[ntndeacon]

Ntndeacon,

Do you have in game information on Blade (Valen Gutters)?

No I don't Gramm.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

[Alan T]

As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?

[SnDvls]

When we started looking at it on day 4 and using it as motivation to start killing people.

It also fell out when the GM's caught on that people were using their role PM to figure out who everyone else was too. simply by putting the phrase that refered to them as normal or regular when they checked in and other's picked up on it. GM's began to make mulitiple unique PMs to all regular and normal villagers so no one could compare.

[SnDvls]

I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB

[Alan T]

I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB

That would be good to know, since he is where I was leaning today so far.

[SnDvls]

here's the thread

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=54031

[SnDvls]

he seems to be logged in, but that doesn't mean he's actually at a computer now though as I'm usually always logged in and "viewing" throughout the day, but it's usually just an open window at my computer here at work.

[SnDvls]

just posted a "Ping" to the three that havent' checked in yet in the GD board

[ntndeacon]

As I said earlier I have not pre game info on Blade. (or anyone else ) I was role playing as was speculated . I am a poor Tomato Farmer. I was using the "fact" that Blade was not above going into someone's house without permission as his ramblings seemed to say.

It could have been those thieving Tookses too. :D

[spleen1015]

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?

I've already mentioned that I'm leaning towards Blade, but since no one has voted for him I don't want to muddy the waters with another candidate.

[Blade6119]

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

[spleen1015]

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

You said it.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.

Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?

[spleen1015]

Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?

Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.

[SnDvls]

VOTE Scoobz0202

he's one of three people not to check in and of the three he's the one I know the least about.
subject to change if he checks in and either of the other two don't

[Blade6119]

Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.

Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch

[BrianD]

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

[Fouts]

Pretty quiet today. I'm going to put my vote on somebody who hasn't checked in, and try to get them talking.

vote KWhit

[Blade6119]

For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

Oh, i intend to continue it for the duration of my life in this game. I have a role that strongly ecourages role-playing, and i intend to follow it through to the end of my stay in Bree.

i just wanted to address all the people seeminly upset by it

[spleen1015]

Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch

Doh! Nicely done, spleen.

[SnDvls]

For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

I enjoied it too Blade so keep it up. remindes me of my time like in the Lost WW game as Sawyer.

[spleen1015]

For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

I enjoyed it, too.

[Lathum]

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)

[Blade6119]

you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)

I accept that fact, and take pleasure in blocking your win then killing you in the small game...so for now, i hold bragging rights :)

[SnDvls]

you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)

ZING!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I'd much rather save a hobbit.

You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.

[Grammaticus]

As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE KWhit

For the same reasons Fouts mentioned.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.

But he did check in, I believe.

[SnDvls]

He did post #150

[Blade6119]

I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T

[Lathum]

I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.

[Grammaticus]

Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.

Passing on a lynch always hurts the villagers. The only exception I can think of is an end game scenario. Here is a link to the Wiki site. Read the section about No Lynch. They are calling the game mafia, which is just another form of werewolf. Here it is quoted:

"No lynch" or "No kill" - sometimes the Innocents are allowed to vote not to kill anyone on a particular daytime cycle. In general, although Villagers will often feel they do not have enough information to kill someone, this is a bad choice because the Villagers are more likely to vote off a Mafia member than the Mafia are to kill a Mafia member. Furthermore, because a player's role is generally revealed when that player is lynched, it provides the Villagers with reliable and irrefutable information. However, when there are an even number of Villagers, this can be a good choice. For example, when there are four Villagers remaining (including one Mafia), voting not to kill someone will result in a 1/3 chance to kill the Mafia the next day as opposed to a 1/4 chance. Note than voting incorrectly in either situation will end the game (resulting in a 1 Mafia/1 Innocent standoff, which is almost always resolved by the Narrator in favor of the Mafia). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game

[Alan T]

You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.

That is not entirely true. While men originally built the city, Hobbits have lived here for about 1500 years. Like it or not, Hobbits are as much a part of Bree as the men are.

[SnDvls]

I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.


we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games

[Schmidty]

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

I don't need to lighten up when it comes to the game. You can claim that something is "only role-playing", but if you do something like that, it's automatically going to get scrutinized. You know that.

And yeah, it was annoying. I wasn't telling you to stop. I was just being honest.

[Alan T]

I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T

I don't understand the reference to Saldana nor any reason for voting for me :)

[Lathum]

we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games

I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.

[SnDvls]

I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.

ok I'm confused now :confused:
you said we need to get 2-3 canidates. I said it looks like we have about 2-3 now in the people w/ 2 votes each.

then you come back w/ the above?:confused:

I don't think anyone right now is worried as it takes 13 votes to lynch today. and no one is near that number. as it is right now we only have 13 voters. we'd all have to come back and vote the same way right now.

[SnDvls]

Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?

[Mr. Wednesday]

You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement.
Originally, yes, but we've been living in harmony with the little folk for long enough that I think "guests" is not really a fair term for them.

[KWhit]

Just now checking in. Didn't realize we were starting today (I thought the game started Wednesday for some reason).

Anyhoo.... I am Celestia Avenspring - Farmer.

So um... Get your votes OFF ME!!!


:)

[Alan T]

Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?

Well I am not Anxiety, but he described the vote decision to be majority decided (not plurality). He simplified it by saying 50% +1, but if it is a majority like he said in the rules, it would be 13 votes. (without having to worry about rounding)

[Lathum]

no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys

[KWhit]

Well, there's almost nothing to go on so far. The absolute only thing interesting so far is Blade's odd behavior.

[Alan T]

Well, was waiting to see who isn't checked in or who wasn't going to check in. Only ones left is Neuqua and Scoobz0202. I don't like voting for someone in their first game before they even have a chance to play, but also don't like voting for someone who is having RL issues and not being here is no fault of their own.

In the end though I guess I need to make some vote, and it will likely be random unless someone really messes up today and says something they shouldn't. I'll go with neuqua here since I have to pick someone, and it will be a second vote on him.

Vote Neuqua

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?


13 is needed at 5 people. 13 is also needed at 24. 12 would be needed with 23. Etc.

Hope that helps!


-Anxiety

[BrianD]

no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys

I agree, no lynch is probably a huge advantage to the bad guys. We need to come up with a lynch tonight.