Alright, boyz!! Here we go...FM 2007 First Impressions

[Bee]

Mine shipped yesterday from Amazon.com.

[FrogMan]

it's amazing how much more depth this game has now. Little things everywhere, like when I went to offer a new contract to one of my player and it told me that another one of my players might want to get a similar contract. Really neat little touch.

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[BigDPW]

Marc? Any update on the Digital Download?

[samifan24]

My Amazon copy will "ship soon." :(

[AlexB]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

When referring to English football clubs, the nickname is a substitute for the team name, not an extension of. So there is no such thing as 'Sheffield Wednesday Owls', 'Huddersfield Town Terriers', 'West Bromwich Albion Baggies' or 'Luton Town Hatters' as a (partially) random selection ;)

It's an either or - 'Sheffield Wednesday' or 'The Owls', 'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers', etc... You get the idea.

In order to fully integrate everybody into FM, I felt that this was important. Thank you. :)

[MJ4H]

'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers'

an excellent choice for your example

[FrogMan]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

When referring to English football clubs, the nickname is a substitute for the team name, not an extension of. So there is no such thing as 'Sheffield Wednesday Owls', 'Huddersfield Town Terriers', 'West Bromwich Albion Baggies' or 'Luton Town Hatters' as a (partially) random selection ;)

It's an either or - 'Sheffield Wednesday' or 'The Owls', 'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers', etc... You get the idea.

In order to fully integrate everybody into FM, I felt that this was important. Thank you. :)


maybe you should start an FOFC UK while you're at it :p

Got the hint but many things work against me here. I have taken to say "pitch" and not "field", "manager" and not "coach", being "sent off" and not "ejected" and even got "sacked" and not "fired" a few times. You can't ask a man to learn all at once.

Oh, and I was one of the first to ask if a UK English file was available to patch my WSM2006, so it's not like I'm not trying.

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[BigDPW]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

Never figured out what your question was here? Are you just trying to make a statement so you can teach us yanks something???

[AlexB]

Never figured out what your question was here? Are you just trying to make a statement so you can teach us yanks something???

Quite right, I started off differently to how I finished. Apologies - there is no question. I should have worded it 'Can we please refer to...'

It was genuinely intended as a helpful piece of advice - many of the guys here seem to be huge footy fans, and their knowledge of the players and the game is massive. But this one way of describing a team would never be used - so it was meant as a way of adding to the integration into the sport. Like I hope people would pick up a Brit using a slightly off bastardisation of the colloquial way of describing the team - I might know it's the Miami Porpoises and Buffalo Williams, but other may not...

[Ajaxab]

I kinda like the name 'the Buffalo Williams'.:)

[BigDPW]

Quite right, I started off differently to how I finished. Apologies - there is no question. I should have worded it 'Can we please refer to...'


No need for apologies. If I were in your shoes it would bug me as well. It's funny here in America when we say we have a question for everyone we usually follow that up with the question - not an answer! (unless of course you happen to be my mother) :D

[AlexB]

maybe you should start an FOFC UK while you're at it :p

Got the hint but many things work against me here. I have taken to say "pitch" and not "field", "manager" and not "coach", being "sent off" and not "ejected" and even got "sacked" and not "fired" a few times. You can't ask a man to learn all at once.

Oh, and I was one of the first to ask if a UK English file was available to patch my WSM2006, so it's not like I'm not trying.

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Hope no offence was taken - explanation above. I know how big a fan you are - when I was outside the UK for 18 months I know how hard it is keeping in touch with the game, and completely lost touch with the NFL, so full respect for your following of The Beautiful Game.

[FrogMan]

Hope no offence was taken - explanation above. I know how big a fan you are - when I was outside the UK for 18 months I know how hard it is keeping in touch with the game, and completely lost touch with the NFL, so full respect for your following of The Beautiful Game.

nah, none taken, wasn't really aware of the "rule". I'll try to remember the lesson. :)

I always play in England too (or at least always start my career there) and using the right English wording for stuff is one amazing way to completely get immersed in the game, to feel as if I'm really there managing the club. It also adds a bit to my knowledge and use of the English language everyday ;) (native tongue is French in case you didn't know)

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[Bee]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

When referring to English football clubs, the nickname is a substitute for the team name, not an extension of. So there is no such thing as 'Sheffield Wednesday Owls', 'Huddersfield Town Terriers', 'West Bromwich Albion Baggies' or 'Luton Town Hatters' as a (partially) random selection ;)

It's an either or - 'Sheffield Wednesday' or 'The Owls', 'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers', etc... You get the idea.

In order to fully integrate everybody into FM, I felt that this was important. Thank you. :)

I would never have known this and must admit I'm pretty disappointed. I really liked the idea of managing the Barnet Bees. :(

Ah...what the hell. In my game universe, it's still the Barnet Bees. :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

To add to JRS's comments, I would like to point out that it's either "Oakland Raiders" or "Fucking Pieces of Shit." It's not "Oakland Raiders Fucking Pieces of Shit" like many of us call them.

[SlapBone]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

When referring to English football clubs, the nickname is a substitute for the team name, not an extension of. So there is no such thing as 'Sheffield Wednesday Owls', 'Huddersfield Town Terriers', 'West Bromwich Albion Baggies' or 'Luton Town Hatters' as a (partially) random selection ;)

It's an either or - 'Sheffield Wednesday' or 'The Owls', 'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers', etc... You get the idea.

In order to fully integrate everybody into FM, I felt that this was important. Thank you. :)

What about QPR? That would be an exception wouldn't it?

[FrogMan]

What about QPR? That would be an exception wouldn't it?

Not sure that they are the Rangers of Queens Park. When you refer to them by a nickname, it would be "The Rs". I learned that at least ;)

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[AlexB]

What about QPR? That would be an exception wouldn't it?

Kinda - QPR are 'The Hoops' (edit: or indeed the R's), the Rangers is part of their full name, rather than a nickname.

Rangers is in effect the equivalent of Wanderers, City or Town. Which gives me an idea to keep people semi-amused for 5 minutes....

[SlapBone]

Kinda - QPR are 'The Hoops' (edit: or indeed the R's), the Rangers is part of their full name, rather than a nickname.

Rangers is in effect the equivalent of Wanderers, City or Town. Which gives me an idea to keep people semi-amused for 5 minutes....

Understood. I have another question about Newcastle. Do they use "The Toon" to refer to the team or the town or both? And if you know this bit of trivia, where does that name come from? We could probably start another thread about this but I didn't want to pass up an opportunity to deignorant myself. :)

[FrogMan]

Kinda - QPR are 'The Hoops' (edit: or indeed the R's), the Rangers is part of their full name, rather than a nickname.

Rangers is in effect the equivalent of Wanderers, City or Town. Which gives me an idea to keep people semi-amused for 5 minutes....

interesting. Had never heard them referred to as The Hoops before as in the game, they always go with The Rs...

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[Jonathan Ezarik]

Understood. I have another question about Newcastle. Do they use "The Toon" to refer to the team or the town or both? And if you know this bit of trivia, where does that name come from? We could probably start another thread about this but I didn't want to pass up an opportunity to deignorant myself. :)

From Wikipedia:

In Geordie, a North Eastern dialect of English English, "Toon" refers to Newcastle ("Toon" coming from "toon", the dialectal version of "town"); the supporters of local football team Newcastle United are nicknamed the "Toon Army".

[AlexB]

From Wikipedia:

In Geordie, a North Eastern dialect of English English, "Toon" refers to Newcastle ("Toon" coming from "toon", the dialectal version of "town"); the supporters of local football team Newcastle United are nicknamed the "Toon Army".

Rodney Marsh (an equivalent of JB, Howie, Terry, etc) got the sack from Sky Sports for a joke about this... The thing was the joke was only offensive to David Beckham, but I think the timing of it was the problem.

The day after the SE Asian natural disaster 2 years ago, Marsh said that when Becks was told of the tsunami had killed thousands, he'd said he didn't even know Newcastle were playing away...

[SlapBone]

WTF?! :)

[AlexB]

WTF?! :)

Dunno! :D

[SirFozzie]

Mass delete, aisle 5!

[AlexB]

Mass delete, aisle 5!

Cheers - delted two and put 'triple post' in the reason. Came back and there was about 10 others... As Slapbone said WTF? I hit CTRL + ENT by accident which sometimes does cause a double, but a decapost... weird. Sorry mods.

[wade moore]

Dunno! :D

I've pointed it out to SD, second time this has happened this week... Not sure how to begin diagnosing it though..

Did anything weird happen when you posted? Did you have a delay and hit submit multiple times or anything?

[wade moore]

Cheers - delted two and put 'triple post' in the reason. Came back and there was about 10 others... As Slapbone said WTF? I hit CTRL + ENT by accident which sometimes does cause a double, but a decapost... weird. Sorry mods.

Well, the weird thing, as with the post earlier this week, is that it progressively added words as you posted..

CTRL-ENT... I've never done that before...

[SlapBone]

All I was thinking was "Boy, those Brits sure have a weird sense of humor".

[Toddzilla]

Understood. I have another question about Newcastle. Do they use "The Toon" to refer to the team or the town or both? And if you know this bit of trivia, where does that name come from? We could probably start another thread about this but I didn't want to pass up an opportunity to deignorant myself. :)Yay Peterhead! Go Blue Toon!

[Passacaglia]

Can I ask some questions? (And I actually mean that)

Will I be able to buy WWSM in stores?

I'm getting a new laptop soon. What kind should I get, if all I really want to do with it is play FOF, WWSM, and Civ4?

[Icy]

Intersting stuff about UK teams nicknames... in Spain not any team has a nickname, only the city name adding the word "Real", "Athletic", "Atletico" or "FC=Futbol club".

[FrogMan]

Can I ask some questions? (And I actually mean that)

Will I be able to buy WWSM in stores?

I'm getting a new laptop soon. What kind should I get, if all I really want to do with it is play FOF, WWSM, and Civ4?

Can't help for the store question or what to look for in a laptop for FOF or Civ4 but I got some thoughts for playing FM/WSM. A dual core processor, or at least an intel with hyperthread, is highly recommended as well as plenty of RAM. Don't know about the cost of RAM for a laptop, but I'd say go for 2gb and you won't be disappointed.

My new computer is an AMD X2 4200+ running at 2Ghz with 2gb of RAM and it really is running very, very well with a pretty nice setup of a game in FM (see previous post of mine about what league I'm running).

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[SackAttack]

:p Ok - can I please ask just one thing?

When referring to English football clubs, the nickname is a substitute for the team name, not an extension of. So there is no such thing as 'Sheffield Wednesday Owls', 'Huddersfield Town Terriers', 'West Bromwich Albion Baggies' or 'Luton Town Hatters' as a (partially) random selection ;)

It's an either or - 'Sheffield Wednesday' or 'The Owls', 'Huddersfield Town' or 'The Terriers', etc... You get the idea.

In order to fully integrate everybody into FM, I felt that this was important. Thank you. :)

Glad to see I'm not the only one with an irrational pet peeve.

Thank you for the enlightenment, sir. :D

[FrogMan]

hey, stupid question here. I just took a look at my U18 squad and all the players aged 18 that I just sent down are marked as ineligible for the next match, what gives? I think I remember that an 18yo player used to be able to player with the U18 team, no?

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[SackAttack]

hey, stupid question here. I just took a look at my U18 squad and all the players aged 18 that I just sent down are marked as ineligible for the next match, what gives? I think I remember that an 18yo player used to be able to player with the U18 team, no?

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I thought I remembered seeing players on my U18 who turned 18 getting automatically moved to the reserve squad.

[FrogMan]

I thought I remembered seeing players on my U18 who turned 18 getting automatically moved to the reserve squad.

From what I remember, if a player was 18 to start the season, he was eligible to play with the U18. That meant I even had some 19yo playing in there later on in the season, although this might have been only on FM2005 and not on '2006. I'm fairly sure an 18yo was allowed to play with the U18 though...

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[FrogMan]

it's apparently been reported as a bug and a mod over at SI posted it's been logged although I don't see any mention of it in the list of fixes...

Also, I offered a player and received two emails from Exeter. One saying they would not be putting in a bid, the other saying they were bidding. They ended up signing the player. Kind of odd. I have screenies if needed...

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[FrogMan]

here's another little thing that bugs me. When I go to the team report screen, the one from my assistant manager, he shows his report with the basic 4-4-2 tactics still in there, even though I've altered the tactics tô play a 4-1-2-1-2 wide diamond formation. Not too sure if that alters his reporting or not, but it didn't do that in FM2006.

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[FrogMan]

dola, and while we were playing friendlies, there were many reports in the team talk screen, now that we've started the season, after our first game, nothing in there. Nothing regarding how the players reacted to my pre-game talk, nothing about half-time talk, nor full game talk...

During preseason, there would be some stuff like "was not listeining" or "demotivated, got boost, motivated". Now, when you'd think it would count the most, the regular season, nothing...

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[SackAttack]

They don't always listen. You have to pick your battles.

[FrogMan]

They don't always listen. You have to pick your battles.

I know that, what I'm saying is that during the preseason, my assistant was giving me this nice report of how EVERYBODY was reacting to my talks, even if his simple report was that they were not listening. Now, nothing is showing up on that report page, nothing at all, it's completely blank, even though I've played one league match, with pre-game, halftime, and full time talks...

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[Passacaglia]

Can't help for the store question or what to look for in a laptop for FOF or Civ4 but I got some thoughts for playing FM/WSM. A dual core processor, or at least an intel with hyperthread, is highly recommended as well as plenty of RAM. Don't know about the cost of RAM for a laptop, but I'd say go for 2gb and you won't be disappointed.

My new computer is an AMD X2 4200+ running at 2Ghz with 2gb of RAM and it really is running very, very well with a pretty nice setup of a game in FM (see previous post of mine about what league I'm running).

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That's about what I looked for. I got a dell with a high processor speed (2GHz), lots of RAM (2GB), and a decent video card (256 MB ATI Radeon X1400). I'm excited to run FM fast, as opposed to the slooow pace on my 980 mHz with 128 or 256 MB of RAM.

[SackAttack]

Upshot - Clint Dempsey scores the winning goal in the EURO Cup final against Manchester United, giving him 14 for the competition and 38 for the year.

Downshot - the damn US team ran him ragged in World Cup qualifications and he's now out two months with hip injuries.

Upshot - the ridiculous bank we made means that our transfer and wage budgets are through the roof this season, so I was able to buy some extra attacking players, and hopefully rotate everybody better this year.

Downshot - we have some woefully insecure guys whining about the new additions.

Joy.

[SackAttack]

C'mon, Dempsey, heal from that hip injury. Those ratings keep dropping. :(

[SackAttack]

And apparently Arsene Wenger has retired from Arsenal, and they now want to poach me away from WBA.

I may split my save here and play around with Arsenal while I continue my WBA career.

[SackAttack]

Oh. He didn't retire, he left for FC Bayern.

[FrogMan]

here's another little thing that bugs me. When I go to the team report screen, the one from my assistant manager, he shows his report with the basic 4-4-2 tactics still in there, even though I've altered the tactics tô play a 4-1-2-1-2 wide diamond formation. Not too sure if that alters his reporting or not, but it didn't do that in FM2006.

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dola, and while we were playing friendlies, there were many reports in the team talk screen, now that we've started the season, after our first game, nothing in there. Nothing regarding how the players reacted to my pre-game talk, nothing about half-time talk, nor full game talk...

During preseason, there would be some stuff like "was not listeining" or "demotivated, got boost, motivated". Now, when you'd think it would count the most, the regular season, nothing...

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okay, found what causes these things to happen. Turns out that if your assistant manager is also a player, when you move him to the reserves squad, he starts reporting about the reserves. I had just moved him to reserves right after our last friendly. My reserves are set in a bland 4-4-2 formation and they've not played a game yet, thus no team talk feedback. Moved him back to the senior squad (he's a 43yo backup, backup, backup goalkeeper) and boom all the reports are back.

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[SirFozzie]

C'mon, Dempsey, heal from that hip injury. Those ratings keep dropping. :(

Ratings do go down while he's out of action, but likely will go up once he returns

[SackAttack]

Ratings do go down while he's out of action, but likely will go up once he returns

I know that. I was praying for him to heal before the ratings went down any further. The farther he falls, the higher he has to climb to get back to his 37-goal form.

[Desnudo]

Something I've always wondered:

Does player attribute growth benefit from them playing in internationals?

Also, how do I sign up mentors, or does it happen naturally?

[illinifan999]

If you go to player interaction you can choose to "link" a player with another and that's the whole mentoring/tutoring thing.

I'm really loving this game. After I got sacked from Chicago and Australia I declared interest with Wolverhampton and the next day they fired their current manager and hired me. We're doing awesome right now and are looking to promote in the Championship next season. But this news article caught my attention:

"Since his arrival at Molineux, one thing that new Wolverhampton Wanderes manager Dan cannot be accused of is failing to tell his players how to find the net.

Wolves have delighted their fans by smashing a mighty twenty-nine goals past their opposition in just fifteen mathes, notching up eight wins in the process."

just cool shit like that is why i love this game

[daedalus]

just cool shit like that is why i love this gameBut can you expand the stadium 5 seats at a time? :)

[illinifan999]

come on those were the most impressive 5 seats in the history of sports

[SackAttack]

http://www.filenikki.com/images/staff/josh/fm07bug.jpg

I was curious when it asked me to give instructions twice for Adu and Convey. First time this has happened.

[Bea-Arthurs Hip]

A little off topic, but cool. I just saw an add on MLS home page for WSM 2007. Link takes you to Amazon.com.

[Desnudo]

If you go to player interaction you can choose to "link" a player with another and that's the whole mentoring/tutoring thing.

I'm really loving this game. After I got sacked from Chicago and Australia I declared interest with Wolverhampton and the next day they fired their current manager and hired me. We're doing awesome right now and are looking to promote in the Championship next season. But this news article caught my attention:

"Since his arrival at Molineux, one thing that new Wolverhampton Wanderes manager Dan cannot be accused of is failing to tell his players how to find the net.

Wolves have delighted their fans by smashing a mighty twenty-nine goals past their opposition in just fifteen mathes, notching up eight wins in the process."

just cool shit like that is why i love this game

Thanks. So if I don't have a drop-down under the link section, I assume that means they can't mentor anyone?

[FrogMan]

Thanks. So if I don't have a drop-down under the link section, I assume that means they can't mentor anyone?

that is what I assume too. One way to find your mentors is to go through your youngsters and see which one has a link to be mentored (or tutored as stated in the game). The link works both ways...

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[SirFozzie]

it's the player to be mentored, not the mentoree

So if you want Joey Bagofdonuts to be mentored by Henry Whatshisname, you'd go to Joey Bagofdonuts's player page, and choose "player interaction" and say one of the options, like "Think Joey Bagofdonuts would benefit from adopting Henry Whatshisname's approach to the game"

[Desnudo]

What's Bagofdonuts' PA?

[SirFozzie]

He's a -5.. but the rest is all random 0's.. he'll always be decent, you never know what you're gonna get out of Bagofdonuts

(Grin, Duck, Run)

[DaddyTorgo]

He's a -5.. but the rest is all random 0's.. he'll always be decent, you never know what you're gonna get out of Bagofdonuts

(Grin, Duck, Run)


beat me to it

[BigDPW]

Does this Joey Bagofdonuts fella happen to know when the digital download will be released??? Maybe he could ask Henry Whatshisname???

[Easy Mac]

I got WWSM from Amazon today... just letting people know.

[SirFozzie]

Does this Joey Bagofdonuts fella happen to know when the digital download will be released??? Maybe he could ask Henry Whatshisname???

I'm not the Marc's.. but I would think from what they said this week or next week.. I'm sure they're ready to chuck it themselves

[MikeVick7]

Yeah they said this week minimum in that "other" thread... :)

[TazFTW]

I got WWSM from Amazon today... just letting people know.

Same.

You may release the patch now.

[Marc Vaughan]

You may release the patch now.
Thanks for letting us know - we'd been waiting on your permission ;)

(more seriously it shouldn't be 'too' much longer - however we obviously need to ensure it is rigorously tested before its released into the wild, it'll definitely be with everyone before xmas thats all I can indicate at present)

[DaddyTorgo]

WTF IS THE DEAL WITH MY LAPTOP DYING LITERALLY 14 HOURS BEFORE FM ARRIVES ON MY DOORSTEP!?!?!?!?

OTOH...I will have a brand new dual-core 2gb RAM, 240gb HD monster to play WINDOWED fm2007 on as of tomorrow WHILE watching TV with the included analog tv tuner

woot!

[Ramzavail]

This game is super duper fast and beautiful with all the wallpapers and the team icons. REally nicely done, well worth every penny, so far.

[samifan24]

I got WWSM from Amazon today... just letting people know.

I got my copy from Amazon today so it looks like everyone should be getting their copies over the next week or so.

[jbergey22]

Thanks for letting us know - we'd been waiting on your permission ;)

(more seriously it shouldn't be 'too' much longer - however we obviously need to ensure it is rigorously tested before its released into the wild, it'll definitely be with everyone before xmas thats all I can indicate at present)


The chance of me buying this game is shrinking very fast. When college fb bowls, college basketball, NFL playoffs and holidays fast apoaching. I am sure soccer will become an afterthough. I've heard great things about your game Marc, congrats on another fine release!

[moriarty]

Ditto my just arrived - so Amazon must have got in a big batch.

Now I'm not sure if I want to start a career or wait for the patch.

[SackAttack]

Here's a solution.

Start a career as a club you couldn't normally give a flip about.

Then fire things up 'for real' come the patch.

[Marc Vaughan]

The chance of me buying this game is shrinking very fast. When college fb bowls, college basketball, NFL playoffs and holidays fast apoaching. I am sure soccer will become an afterthough. I've heard great things about your game Marc, congrats on another fine release!

Sorry to hear that you've escaped this year - hopefully we'll snare you next time around .... ;)

[SackAttack]

I'm halfway through the 2009/2010 season in my WBA career.

That is easily the longest I've stuck with any one CM/FM career. I'm not sure if things are finally just clicking for me in terms of understanding, or what, but I think this is going to be the version that takes hold long-term for me.

[SackAttack]

I'm not sure I'm understanding the 'future fee' clause properly.

I have a kid out on loan who has no future with my club, and he's got a 'future fee' of $150k from the loaning side.

They just came in and offered me $3k for him. They aren't obligated to offer me the 'future fee,' but if they offer it, I have to let the player go? Do I have that right?

[Marc Vaughan]

I have a kid out on loan who has no future with my club, and he's got a 'future fee' of $150k from the loaning side.
This means that they can opt to purchase him for that amount but its not something they 'have' to do (ie. you are correct).

One thing to bear in mind is also 'drumming up business' - if a club is interested in a player who's surplus to requirements, it might be worth offering him around to other clubs in an attempt to get a bidding war going ... nothing like two teams (or more) squabbling over a player to drive up the price ;)

[Narcizo]

I used to play CM/FM all the time up to around FM05. However I missed out on FM06 because of time problems and I'm afraid that FM07 just looks like too much hard work.

Congratulations to SpInG for getting what they've always been looking for - a football sim. Unfortunately I'm left facing the fact that managing a team, as accurately reflected in the game (sorry, sim), probably isn't quite as much fun as you'd expect. It's become like a job.

[Marc Vaughan]

I used to play CM/FM all the time up to around FM05. However I missed out on FM06 because of time problems and I'm afraid that FM07 just looks like too much hard work.
We try hard to ensure that as we add more features the game doesn't become too complicated for people - most tasks you can leave to the assistant if you don't want to do it yourself ..... and there's always the PSP version if you preferred a slightly simpler and faster game ;)

[Narcizo]

Yeah, my first reaction when the PSP version came out was "are you going to release a PC version of it". It seemed to fill the criteria of what lots of people were wanting from CM4 (CM0102 with a better game engine and pretty dots to watch). Unfortunately there's no way I'm getting a PSP.

I think you've done a great job with the sim. The scouting seems much better and the whole thing seems beautifully well-designed. I participate on a board with people who love FM07. But I just can't get into it. I know you can leave lots of stuff up to the ass man but in the end you always worry that you're not going to be as successful as a result. So when you lose the key promotional battle on the last day, you're left thinking "I bet I could have gone up if I'd taken the time to set my own training or customised my tactics for every game" etc etc. I get the same feeling when I miss out on a play-off spot in FOF if I'm quicksimming but as a year requires far less of a time-investment than FM it's easy to think "oh well, there's always next year" and that will happen within the foreseeable future.

[PraetorianX]

I too just got my copy from Amazon the other day, and it was worth the wait! :D

And does 'Preferred Formation' FINALLY change now?!?!?! Woohoo! Mine says I like to play a 4-1-3-2, and I most certainly do. Do the other parts change (Mentality, Marking, Pressing, Coaching Style?)


Also, Mentors look nice. :) I'm playing as Spurs and had Tomas Pekhart tutored by Dimitar Berbatov. Pecker has already learned all of Berbsy's PPM and they seem to get along fine, they were both thrilled about helping one another. Now...Terry Dixon and Robbie Keane (future Ireland partnership?)...they seem to get along fine too, but Terry hasn't learned any of Robbie's PPM's yet. I'm sure he will though.

I'd have Barney or one of my other young strikers learn from Defoe...but then they'd all turn into idiots who know fuckall about passing/off the ball/offside rule/anythingotherthanfinishingwhichDefoehasforgottenlatelytoo.

Oh well.

Game is great, :) Just wish I didn't get teams taking all my staff.

[moriarty]

OK, since I'm late coming to the party .... any recommendation on skins, facepacks, etc..?

[FrogMan]

OK, since I'm late coming to the party .... any recommendation on skins, facepacks, etc..?

I've not played with facepacks but there are very little skins available for now. I've read of one called goal and one called lightning but neither impressed me much.

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[moriarty]

I've not played with facepacks but there are very little skins available for now. I've read of one called goal and one called lightning but neither impressed me much.

FM

Yeah, I didn't see a lot of skins out there for FM2007 yet. Guess it's too soon, but there were some quality updates for the previous versions.

I did download the EPL facepack, logos and kits from sortitoutsi. I need to grab a few more when I have the chance.

[DaddyTorgo]

game installed. time to see what the recommended setup with my new laptop is.

[SackAttack]

Game is great, :) Just wish I didn't get teams taking all my staff.

Welcome to MY life.

At least now that I've got WBA into EPL that's ceased happening.

But yeah, losing all my most effective staff members in the first week of the career sucked balls.

[rexallllsc]

game installed. time to see what the recommended setup with my new laptop is.

My recommended setup was like 7 leagues (MacBook Pro, 2gb RAM), but I'm running 28 VERY quickly. Quicker than any version of FM/CM ever.

[rexallllsc]

OK, since I'm late coming to the party .... any recommendation on skins, facepacks, etc..?

On www.sortitoutsi.net I just look for all of the ones with 5 stars and a TON of downloads :)

[DaddyTorgo]

My recommended setup was like 7 leagues (MacBook Pro, 2gb RAM), but I'm running 28 VERY quickly. Quicker than any version of FM/CM ever.

yeah mine was 12 leagues in 6 countries but i have a dual-core centrino with 2gb of ram so i'm thinking i'll go more. but i like fast processing time, it helps years and years in when your savegame has gotten bigger

[moriarty]

Agree on the speed improvement ... worth the price of a new version alone. I'm not running near the leagues you guys are on my Ram dog laptop, but just being able to sim quickly with a large database is sooo nice.

[Desnudo]

I have it on a laptop that's a couple of years old and it runs well. I'm really enjoying this version. I think that the financial model is more accurate than previous versions. It makes it much more of a challenge.

[Desnudo]

More accurately, it runs fast.

[Ramzavail]

sometimes it runs so fast, I can't even read what it says.

as for the skins, i dont think ill bother, the one that game with FM is beautiful, IMO.

[Bea-Arthurs Hip]

WSM 2007 is now up for download on SI's site for those who have been waiting....

[PraetorianX]

So after a few more days worth of playing, I have several observations:

1.) It's SOOOOO much faster. I'm running England (Con N/S), the MLS, and the top two or three leagues in Scotland, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Portugal, Russia, Argentina and Brazil...and it's running very well. :D Melike!

2.) It's much more immersing with all the media and player interaction. Great great great.

3.) I love the little icons on the bottom that I can click on and go straight to my squad/mail/Home/etc. Something simple that makes life a little easier, :)

4.) While transfers aren't quite there yet, they're getting there. I bought Steven Taylor for only £5m, Hatem Ben Arfa for around the same. In previous games it would have taken £15m or more for either (well, maybe not HBA if he wasn't starting).


And on that note, I have proven now that indeed all Spurs need IS a leftwinger (in this case, HBA). Thus proving what many Spurs fans have thought for some time now. I shall inform Mr. Levy at once and provide a resume for when he sacks Mr. Comolli. :)

[MikeVick7]

WSM 2007 is now up for download on SI's site for those who have been waiting....
Good find. I thought it would have been pinned...

http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=374

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm scared to purchase it after reading about the MLS crash. Is there anything else that's a showstopper?

[SirFozzie]

Pumpy: That's the only showstopper I've come across, and there's two ways to avoid it until the patch (which is sometime in the next few weeks)

1) Not play a MLS team
2) Not negotiate already made trade offers (player for draft pick) to include more players on their side.

[Jaguars]

No, it's new in 2007, you can asign the vets to mentor the young players to help them improve, not sure how it helps.

OMG! That sounds awesome.

FM series is the best sports sim eva!

[SackAttack]

To: anybody in the know.

Re: abrupt player retirements.

Do they happen? I had a striker, John Hartson, who was a fabulous player for my West Bromwich side in the Championship, but increasingly got isolated as we got better strikers in the Premiership.

He never indicated that he was thinking about retiring, but suddenly, in the second match of the 2010-11 season, following our EPL championship, I'm noticing that he's not in the squad. He doesn't come up in a search, and when I look at friendly matches from last season, he's unselectable (i.e. can't see his stats etc).

What happened here? Any idea?

[moriarty]

To: anybody in the know.

Re: abrupt player retirements.

Do they happen? I had a striker, John Hartson, who was a fabulous player for my West Bromwich side in the Championship, but increasingly got isolated as we got better strikers in the Premiership.

He never indicated that he was thinking about retiring, but suddenly, in the second match of the 2010-11 season, following our EPL championship, I'm noticing that he's not in the squad. He doesn't come up in a search, and when I look at friendly matches from last season, he's unselectable (i.e. can't see his stats etc).

What happened here? Any idea?

Well usually, in previous versions, you would get a notice when someone was planning on retiring and he'd have a RET indicator next to his name. But based on the fact you can't find him in the dB search, I'm guessing he must have retired. Sounds more like a bug though.

[SackAttack]

Well what's weird is I never even got an indication he was considering it. No opportunity to talk him out of it.

He just made like Mark McGwire and disappeared.

[SirFozzie]

Aieeee... rough decision here.

I took over Tottenham (Spurs) to start, and I've done pretty good by them. Won the League Cup in my 2nd year, got to the Quarter Finals of the UEFA Cup, and finished fourth in the EPL (qualifying for the Champions League)

Now, the next year, we just made the final 8 of the Champions League on away goals, after a 3-3 aggregate draw against Bayern Munich, are a distant fifth in the EPL (five points out of 4th, with a game in hand), and Liverpool comes knocking at my door.

They're 11th in the EPL, so no Europe next year, but have a good staff. They want me to manage, are offering at least 44.5 Million UK Pounds (something on the line of $75 Million) in transfer money (although I wouldn't get it till next year), the wage budget is at 700K/week (and I have room to expand it)

Gahhh..

[rexallllsc]

They're 11th in the EPL, so no Europe next year, but have a good staff. They want me to manage, are offering at least 44.5 Million UK Pounds (something on the line of $75 Million) in transfer money (although I wouldn't get it till next year), the wage budget is at 700K/week (and I have room to expand it)

Gahhh..

Interesting. I'm @ Pool now. I have a 51 mil (pounds) wage budget - but only an 8 mil (pounds) transfer budget.

[Toddzilla]

Bah. I manage Peterhead in the Scottish 3rd Division.

10K Euro Xfer budget.
2K/wk Euro wage budget.

Sack up, Alice...

[SirFozzie]

heheh

Can you blame me if I'm such a better manager then you? *ducks*

I decided not to take it, I couldn't take not being in Europe next year

[rexallllsc]

heheh

Can you blame me if I'm such a better manager then you? *ducks*

I decided not to take it, I couldn't take not being in Europe next year

I guess I could always take an ultimatum to them, but considering how this season wenty down, I shouldn't.

I was in first place in the Premiership from about the 6th game to the 34th (though when Chelsea would get a game or two up they'd pass me).

The difference was two losses to Chelsea - both blowouts (0-5, 0-2). They beat me by 6 points.

2nd place in the Premiership
Won the League Cup
Lost in the Quarters of the Champs League to FC Bayern - I won the first leg (at home) 3-1, and they beat me 0-2 @ Bayern with a goal in the 84th minute.
Lost in the 3rd Round of the FA to Charlton.

I'm having problems deciding where I want to strengthen the team.

[path12]

Bah. I manage Peterhead in the Scottish 3rd Division.

10K Euro Xfer budget.
2K/wk Euro wage budget.

Sack up, Alice...

Third year at Gravesend. Haven't had a transfer budget yet. Bastards.

[DaddyTorgo]

waiting for the patch so i can start a serious career. just mucking about right now

[daedalus]

Aieeee... rough decision here.Easy . . . you do what any sensible person would and flee from WHL as quickly as possible! :D

[daedalus]

What am I saying? You're from MA. And you like trees. And pain.

You made the appropriate decision . . . for one such as yourself. :D

[SirFozzie]

you do know what the only possible reply is, right?





I KEEL YOU NOW!

((a week after Liverpool tried to hire me, Bayern Munich wanted me to come to Germany.. there was a little less angst about saying no this time)

[rexallllsc]

heheh

Can you blame me if I'm such a better manager then you? *ducks*

I decided not to take it, I couldn't take not being in Europe next year

BTW - they gave me 32 mil this off-season. I brought on Downing and now Riise wants to go to Spain, so I need a DL. Ugh.

[MikeVick7]

This has probably been mentioned many times in this thread, but I just can't get over how fast the simming is in this game. I'm so used to hitting the space bar and then turning my head to watch the TV for like 3-5 mins. I still do that out of habit now and when I turn back to the monitor after like 10 secs it's already done. Easily the best improvement.

[SackAttack]

BTW - they gave me 32 mil this off-season. I brought on Downing and now Riise wants to go to Spain, so I need a DL. Ugh.

Try and get Gareth Bale if you're early enough in the game to get him cheap.

That kid has been fantastic for me at WBA.

[SackAttack]

Dola,

I don't think he starts there. I think I bought him after I had to sell Curtis Davies to a Spanish side.

[DaddyTorgo]

VERY strange happening (i suppose)

Still just mucking about as Chelski waiting for the patch to start my serious career and I'm trying to buy Sergio Ramos from Real Madrid. His current contract had like ~3 years or so left on it (whatever it was at the beginning of the game). I put in numerous offers for him, including one for 53 million dollars but they're all rejected and he has a 120 million dollar release clause. Lo and behold after the 53 million dollar offer is rejected he signs a new 5 year deal with a 52 million dollar release clause.

Coincidence?

[MikeVick7]

Is there a known issue/bug with training? I have created some schedules for my conf team and then set them all to a medium workload. Then I'll sim ahead and when I go back to the schedule screen, some of the schedule's workloads will jump up to heavy or very heavy. Has this been talked about in the thread already?

[MikeVick7]

Dola - Ok, things seem to have righted themselves for now.

What I was doing was adjusting the slider for each category and then using the workload slider to scale the workload to the level I wanted overall. But, it seems if I go adjust one of the individual category sliders (ie, strength) the workload seems to have stabilized. Still annoying and something I've never experienced in past versions. Hope that made sense.

[aran]

Once again, FM is so immense I find it hard to get started.

[SackAttack]

I'm not sure if this is a bug report or not.

As West Brom, we won EPL last season and lead it this season (2009/10). The record book still says our highest position in EPL is 1st in the 1919/20 season. Seems like that's something that would default to the most recent season if '1st' is the highest position.

Also, I've got a 'biggest defeat' of 10-3 in 1937, and yet the highest scoring game listed is a 5-2 win over ManU. In this case, it might be splitting hairs with records at different divisions.

[Chief Rum]

I'm not sure if this is a bug report or not.

As West Brom, we won EPL last season and lead it this season (2009/10). The record book still says our highest position in EPL is 1st in the 1919/20 season. Seems like that's something that would default to the most recent season if '1st' is the highest position.

Also, I've got a 'biggest defeat' of 10-3 in 1937, and yet the highest scoring game listed is a 5-2 win over ManU. In this case, it might be splitting hairs with records at different divisions.

Was the 5-2 game in your career or a real game? I think that record might only take into account games from the actual game you're playing, not from historical records.

As for the other matter, while I think they use it interchangeably (meaning your point still stands), technically the EPL has only been around since, I believe, 1992. But I doubt that's the issue--sounds more like a bug.

[SackAttack]

The 5-2 game was from my career. The other obviously wasn't, being from 1937. ;)

[AlexB]

Highest league positions to me would only update once you beat the previous high, and given that you can never beat 1st, it will never update.

From an English perspective that's how I would expect it to work.

[rexallllsc]

I got this guy Ryan Taylor in 06-07 (I'm now in 07-08) from Wigan for £6.75 as a replacement for the aging Steve Finnan.

Since then, he's broken his leg (7 months), fractured his skull (3 months), and now about 10 minutes into the 10th match of the season, he broke his leg again (out for an estimated 5 months).

HA.

[SackAttack]

But at least you paid less than 7 pounds, right?

[DaddyTorgo]

I WANT MY PATCH!!!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

just found something new and sweet...the concept of "parity wage" with 2 players at the same club

[Ramzavail]

just found something new and sweet...the concept of "parity wage" with 2 players at the same club

explain.

I haven't seen that yet.

[DaddyTorgo]

explain.

I haven't seen that yet.

well i went to renegotiate joe cole's contract and down below in the area where you usually see your ass man's recommendation i saw in addition this line of type:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3240/paritypu7.png (http://imageshack.us)

and now Essien has a "slt" unhappiness saying he wants a contract matching cole's

[SackAttack]

Yep, I ran into that with Charles N'Zogbia and Bobby Convey.

[SackAttack]

Just had a retarded loan offer thing with Barnsley.

They asked to loan one of my strikers - who wasn't in my plans - and offered to pay 40% of his salary. I said 'Sure, also you guys can have the right to buy him for $1.5m (half price) at any time during the loan.'

They changed their mind.

Why the heck would they do that? It's not as though it were an obligation to make the purchase.

[Desnudo]

In a Euro Cup match Litex had 5 players sent off against my Portsmouth team, leaving them with 6. Aren't you required to have at least 7 players on the field or is that just a Sunday league rule?

[Pumpy Tudors]

i waiting for patch before start new career :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

i waiting for patch before start new career :)

Me too.

[Critch]

In a Euro Cup match Litex had 5 players sent off against my Portsmouth team, leaving them with 6. Aren't you required to have at least 7 players on the field or is that just a Sunday league rule?

Yes, that's a rule.

It seems they need to tone down the sending offs a bit. My team wasn't particularly dirty, didn't play with hard tackling turned on, but still had 20 players sent off in a single season. 18 games with one player sent off and 1 game with 2.

There are far too many "kicks out at an opponent" type sending offs, the majority of my teams were from a straight red card for violent conduct rather than a professional foul or two bookings. My opponents had a good number too.

[dacman]

Patch 7.0.1 for FM has been released. WWSM owners begin another wait.

[Icy]

Patch 7.0.1 for FM has been released. WWSM owners begin another wait.

Woot finally!!

[Pumpy Tudors]

I wonder if the boxed/digital download patches for WWSM will be out at the same time. If the boxed patch is coming out first, I may place an order with Amazon today and have the game at my house tomorrow.

Shit, I might as well do that anyway. Amazon Prime for the win!

[PraetorianX]

WWSM owners begin another wait.

...*cry*

:(

It wouldn't be so annoying except...they have have a download for the Mac version of WSM.

Oh well, Rooney will just get injured in internationals anyway...

[DaddyTorgo]

YESSSS. PATCH ME BABY!

[DaddyTorgo]

ok...honestly...if i was SI i think I would have held off until the WWSM patch was ready too. because at this point it really seems like the WWSM players are "second-class citizens" and all that's going to do is drive down the number of copies of WWSM they sell again.

sorry wwsm players :-(

[Pumpy Tudors]

Yeah, the only reason I'm getting WWSM is because it's cheaper. If I could get FM for the same price, I wouldn't even mind waiting for it to come from overseas.

I'm hoping that the WWSM patch is out before the weekend, because I'll have the game tomorrow if I get around to placing my order within the next few hours.

[Critch]

I don't think SI would piss off 99% of their buyers just to keep 1% happy, unfortunately. (I'm saying unfortunately because I've got WWSM).

[FrogMan]

Great news! :) I almost had a feeling it was coming because I visited their forum during my break this morning, maybe 30 minutes prior to them posting the releas announcement :)

fwiw, this was just posted on SI's myspace blog:

Football Manager 2007 Patch live now
Category: Games

A patch for Football Manager 2007 has now been released.

You can download it and find out details of mirror sites at www.sigames.com (http://www.sigames.com)

Please be patient when downloading - the site is being swamped currently!

The patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager 2007 will follow within 24 hours.


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=64472160&blogID=199727063

FM

[Desnudo]

I'm curious to see the patch impact to the matches. Hopefully more 1v1 scoring.

[Pumpy Tudors]

My order for WWSM has been placed. It will be at my house tomorrow when I get home from work. I just hope the patch is ready by then, too.

[PraetorianX]

According to reports on the SI forums, the WWSM patch is available on Filefront already and those whom have installed it have said that it works all fine and dandy. I think I might wait for something more official though, myself, as if I do not then it will inevitably be the incorrect decision.

[PraetorianX]

AH! IT IS THE REAL PATCH! SI just confirmed, sweet!

It's 100 MB, 20 MB larger than the FM patch because it's a dual Boxed/DD patch. So both boxed and DD users can DL it.

Ok, I shall now vanish from this world.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Grr, if I had known that it was a dual boxed/DD patch, I would've ordered the download tonight. Ah, well. I'm going bowling tonight anyway. I'll just have to play the game when I get home tomorrow.

[SackAttack]

Don't let go of the remote, Pumpy!

[Miller Time]

Is the game available via Digital Download yet? If so, where can I dl it from?

[SirFozzie]

It is available for DD, through SI Games's website.

[daedalus]

According to reports on the SI forums, the WWSM patch is available on Filefront already and those whom have installed it have said that it works all fine and dandy. I think I might wait for something more official though, myself, as if I do not then it will inevitably be the incorrect decision.Okay, those weren't official so, y'know, if you download and use them, I will be forced to notify Dan Wassen and call you a pirate.

Just a warning, is all.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Don't let go of the remote, Pumpy!
Eep! Not Wii bowling! :)

[Shepp]

I wouldn't get too excited yet. There are 2 big bugs that have come up since the patch that have me thinking about waiting to starting a serious game until the next patch.

Players being dropped from team when contract extension is offered in last year of contract.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4642084852/m/4142004972

Paying double transfer fee for players

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4642084852/m/8002076972

:(

[rexallllsc]

So I guess I should just re-install with 7.0, huh? Is there a way I can roll-back w/o doing that?

[Shepp]

I guess I also should have mentioned that there is a post over at the SI board that acknowledges the "player dropped after contract offer bug" and the word is that they hope to have a patch early next week. However, no mention is made about the double transfer fee issue.

I remain hopeful that it won't take another month and some change to get these issues fixed.

But I am VERY bummed that I can't spend the weekend getting into the game in ernest like I had planned yesterday.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Whoops, well, now that these other two bugs have been mentioned, I guess I'll just do something else this weekend.

[MikeVick7]

I wouldn't get too excited yet. There are 2 big bugs that have come up since the patch that have me thinking about waiting to starting a serious game until the next patch.

Players being dropped from team when contract extension is offered in last year of contract.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4642084852/m/4142004972

Paying double transfer fee for players

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4642084852/m/8002076972

:(
Here's a workaround until they get the first one fixed. I usually offer what they want anyway, so this one isn't affecting me at all.

Workaround
In short if you offer the player exactly what he wants and accepts then this bug will not occur.

In response to offering a lower weekly wage than he is currently on, I would advise against this until the new patch is out.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/8492066972

[Pumpy Tudors]

Judging from some of the comments from SI, it looks like the "double transfer fee" thing may be related to people using a crack on the game. It's mentioned in the same thread that MikeVick7 just referenced. If this is indeed true, I won't mind starting a career this weekend. :D

[MikeVick7]

Judging from some of the comments from SI, it looks like the "double transfer fee" thing may be related to people using a crack on the game. It's mentioned in the same thread that MikeVick7 just referenced. If this is indeed true, I won't mind starting a career this weekend. :D
Yeah, I noticed that one of the SI guys isn't admitting that the double transfer thing is a bug yet.

[AlexB]

FWIW I've been playing the patched game most of today, with a new game, and it seems OK - haven't paid double for anyone, haven't had any problems with the contract renewal (even tried to use it to avoid paying compensation to some staff but to no avail!), Rooney's ban has gone and there are managers whose jobs are on the line, all of which have been reported elsewhere.

I have been generally (actually scratch the word generally from this sentence) disappointed with FM since the change from CM, but the patched version of 07 seems to be a return to form.

From my experience, dive in.

[Ryan S]

Judging from some of the comments from SI, it looks like the "double transfer fee" thing may be related to people using a crack on the game. It's mentioned in the same thread that MikeVick7 just referenced. If this is indeed true, I won't mind starting a career this weekend. :D

It looks like there are people having this error using the CD.

I have decided not to install the patch until SI release a fix as I don't want to risk any of my saved games.

[DaddyTorgo]

so i can't sign more than 1 non-EU player per year in Italy and send them to feeder clubs? that's frustrating (although probably accurate)

[SackAttack]

Anybody know if "View Only" keeps players available for transfers, but just doesn't allow you to actually hold jobs in that nation?

I'm curious whether setting up a league with two playable leagues and several 'view only' leagues would increase my scouts' ability to actually find new players.

[FrogMan]

Anybody know if "View Only" keeps players available for transfers, but just doesn't allow you to actually hold jobs in that nation?

I'm curious whether setting up a league with two playable leagues and several 'view only' leagues would increase my scouts' ability to actually find new players.

from what I understand, celecting a league as "view only" doesn't retain more players. You need to retain the country to make more players available in that country.

Also, I'm not sure I remember if you could pick one country with some playable leagues and some view only leagues within the same country. Always thought the playability was something you assigned to a country, not to specific league within a country. But I may remember wrong on that one...

FM

[SirFozzie]

*laughs* 2011-12 Champions League has hit the Semi-Final stage.

Newcastle-Chelsea
Arsenal-ManYoo

Yes, the four English teams in the draw all made it to the semifinal stage

Two of the teams left in the FA Cup are amongst those four

ManYoo-Charlton
Everton-Chelsea

and with 5-6 games to play, here's the EPL Standings

Chelsea (33) 68 Points
Arsenal (32) 68 Points
ManYoo (32) 65 Points
Newcastle (33) 65 Points.

Think the top four are dominating this year?

[Passacaglia]

I bet at least one of those teams didn't even win their own conference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jonathan Ezarik]

*laughs* 2011-12 Champions League has hit the Semi-Final stage.

Newcastle-Chelsea
Arsenal-ManYoo



That's too bad. I really had high hopes for this game, but it's obviously broken beyond all hope. :D

[MikeVick7]

I always cringe when all 4 english teams make the semis in the Champions League, cause it happens...a lot.

[SirFozzie]

Hooooleee shit.

In the ManYoo-Arsenal CL Semifinal, Arsenal were the much better team in the first leg, and won 2-0. So for the 2nd leg at Old Trafford, ManYoo were pretty much doomed.

A) They had to win 2-0 to force Extra Time/Penalties
B) Win by three clear goals or more to advance

Anything else would not be enough, and considering we (*) were playing the best goalie in the game (Igor Akinfeev, who Arsenal bought for 26.5 Million Pounds this year), that would be a tall task.

We got a first half goal from Wayne Rooney, but it was still 2-1 on aggregate entering the 2nd half, and we would need THREE goals if Arsenal scored again.

Minute 51: Rooney hits a 30 yard chip over the backpedaling Akinfeev to tie things up!

Minute 62: Lukas Podolski in a scramble in front of the net, knocks in a rebound! 3-2, Man Yoo! (of course, this still meant that if Arsenal scored, they would lead on the away goal)

Minute 88: Arsenal keep pressing, and on a counter attack/break by ManYoo, Marc-Andre Kruska scores to make it 4-0 on the night, 4-2 on aggregate, and we're through to the final!

Holy shit.. I was literally dancing in front of the computer screen.

(*) Yes, I'm the Evil Guy in charge of Man Yoo, but I didn't start there, I moved there last year after 4 1/2 seasons in charge of Tottenham, and I'm not sure they're not still burning me in effigy there :D

[SackAttack]

I always cringe when all 4 english teams make the semis in the Champions League, cause it happens...a lot.

Foz was telling me he thinks it happens when some of the other leagues are non-playable...that the English teams end up building up more talented squads than do sides in leagues that end up with no real result, and so that's why the English teams are more frequently successful.

Wonder how true that is.

[SirFozzie]

it's not the case in my game, I have something like 50 or so nations and 105 or so leagues (yeah, it runs slow, but I have the net to pass the time)

[SirFozzie]

Ended up winning the CL, which is a good way to finish that save game as I install the patch, and time to start playing MLS :)

[MikeVick7]

Foz was telling me he thinks it happens when some of the other leagues are non-playable...that the English teams end up building up more talented squads than do sides in leagues that end up with no real result, and so that's why the English teams are more frequently successful.

Wonder how true that is.
I think there definitely is some truth in this. That's why I keep some of the major leagues playing, at least in the backround, like Italy, Germany and Spain just so that they just don't sit there.

[Passacaglia]

Seriously, how the fark can a team be considered the best in Europe when they weren't even the best in their own country? This is a travesty, I tells ya!

[Blade6119]

Seriously, how the fark can a team be considered the best in Europe when they weren't even the best in their own country? This is a travesty, I tells ya!

Didnt liverpool win the CL last year and finished like 8th in the EPL? They had to create a special rule to allow liverpool into the CL to defend since they didnt qualify for it this year with their leauge ranking in EPL when the won the CL

[Passacaglia]

Didnt liverpool win the CL last year and finished like 8th in the EPL? They had to create a special rule to allow liverpool into the CL to defend since they didnt qualify for it this year with their leauge ranking in EPL when the won the CL

I don't remember where they finished, but they didn't finish in the Top 4, which is required to play in the CL. That was really a different scenario. I'm just making fun of people who say you have to win your conference in order to win the nation. And I'm not trying to get into an argument about it or anything (because I honestly don't care) -- just having a little fun.

[bhlloy]

I think there definitely is some truth in this. That's why I keep some of the major leagues playing, at least in the backround, like Italy, Germany and Spain just so that they just don't sit there.


Yeah on my old PC I was pretty much just limited to English teams and loading all players from the 4 other "home" nations and English teams completely dominated.

Thankfully now on my new PC I can play with 10 leagues and I haven't seen the same domination from the English clubs so far at least.

[moriarty]

Didnt liverpool win the CL last year and finished like 8th in the EPL? They had to create a special rule to allow liverpool into the CL to defend since they didnt qualify for it this year with their leauge ranking in EPL when the won the CL

Hey now, they only came in 5th in the league (one outside the qualification spot) two years ago. And yeah, they were given special exemption into last year's tournament to defend ... although they had to start at the earliest qualification rounds.

[Passacaglia]

Going to share a story here, even if it's WSM 06. So I'm in my first season at Vauxhall Motors. We started off in the top half, but have since fallen to 18th. We play a 3-5-2, with my D-line split wide, so I just have one centre back and two fullbacks, then two DMs to help fill in the holes in the middle. Then one MC, my wingers moved up to the AML and AMR spots, and two strikers. Our offense is great, tied for first in goals scored (21 in 13 games), but our defence is crap -- giving up more goals than anyone else in the league by far (26 in 13 games).

Anyway, we're playing minnows Chertsey in the early stages of the FA Trophy. We're up 1-0 in the 89th minute, when my left fullback gets a red card. No big deal, we can hold out for 5 more minutes or so, right? No. They score pretty much immediately. No big deal, we'll just play them at home. However, that guy was my only left defender! So I modify my line, and put everyone in as centre backs. The result? A 1-1 draw, in which we were up a man for probably 100 minutes or so. We lose on penalties 5-3, but that's okay -- we should really focus more on getting promoted, right? Or maybe avoiding relegation.

Anyway, our next match is against Kettering. Our left fullback is back, but our left winger is out -- and again, that's our only left winger! So I switch to a 3-4-3. I move my right winger to a third striker, move my MC up to AMC, move one of my DMs up to MC, bring in another MC to replace my injured winger, then keep one DM in the middle, so my 4 middies are in kind of a narrow diamond formation. Since I don't have two DMs to fill in those gaps in my D-Line, I bring my left defender in to play centre back -- this is really the only guy playing out of position now. It's a home game, but I'm basically just crossing my fingers and hoping we don't get burned too badly. The result? Kettering gets on the board, first then the rest of the scoring is ours -- all 8 goals! Even after sending our striker, Tom Rooney (who rocks, by the way), off for a standing ovation and having a right fullback play forward after the 86th minute, we still put up another goal! Anyway, after the 8-1 victory, our offense is by far the best now, and our 27 goals allowed is only two more than the next worst team. Oh, and we move up the charts, to 17th! Huzzah! Anyway, I've got a bit of a condundrum. That winger was one of my 2 or 3 best players, but we managed to really dominate by focusing our passing through the middle. Any ideas?

[Pumpy Tudors]

I started my first WWSM 07 career last night. Now I have the task of learning my team again. It's always a bit of a chore to get started. Once I'm rolling, I'm fine, but the initial setup of my team always makes me groan a little bit. :)

[cougarfreak]

Is this game really on $24.99 on amazon? And are all patches out for the WWSM as well, or should I go to gamestop and get FM? Also, how will it run on a laptop that is 1.5 ghz (not dual core), with 1.5 gigs of ram?

[Critch]

Is this game really on $24.99 on amazon? And are all patches out for the WWSM as well, or should I go to gamestop and get FM? Also, how will it run on a laptop that is 1.5 ghz (not dual core), with 1.5 gigs of ram?

It'll run fine, I've been going with 16 leagues from 10 countries on a 1.6ghz (not dual core) and 1gig of ram and it's nice and quick.

[cougarfreak]

Wow.......din't realize the price was that reduced. Last version I bought was $50 i believe.

[Desnudo]

Just had my first red card rescinded on appeal. I love the asst. manager advice on that subject. It's hard to tell from the game highlight whether or not you should appeal.

[Passacaglia]

Just had my first red card rescinded on appeal. I love the asst. manager advice on that subject. It's hard to tell from the game highlight whether or not you should appeal.

Why wouldn't you always appeal? I never understood that.

[Desnudo]

I think it reduces your future chances if the FA thinks you are a crybaby.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Is there a penalty if you appeal and fail?

[SirFozzie]

yes, you could get a touchline ban (ie it takes longer to do tactic changes/substitutions, since you're up in the crowd) for excessive appealing, plus the refs take a dimmer view against your teams.

Also, if you want to complain about a ref's decision in public, MAKE SURE you get it right before complaining, the FA can fine your team for bringing the game into direpute if you spend too much time slamming the refs in public.

[Ramzavail]

yes, you could get a touchline ban (ie it takes longer to do tactic changes/substitutions, since you're up in the crowd) for excessive appealing, plus the refs take a dimmer view against your teams.

Also, if you want to complain about a ref's decision in public, MAKE SURE you get it right before complaining, the FA can fine your team for bringing the game into direpute if you spend too much time slamming the refs in public.

how accurate is the AI? 1-1 tie, a goal late was taken away bc they said I was offsides. I know the offsides rule and he was clearly not OFFSIDES. I bitch and moan in a postgame and they touchlined me and said that it appeared that the ref got the call right. I'm like WTF.

Edit: But what I thought was cool, the guy who got the goal taken away was like in his personal tab that something like he liked that I fought for his goal or something or he thought I was right.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Sounds pretty accurate to me. How often does a league admit when their officials mess up?

[Ramzavail]

Sounds pretty accurate to me. How often does a league admit when their officials mess up?

good point, but dont ban me, geez.

[Passacaglia]

I've wondered about offsides, too. I thought I knew the rule, but I see offsides calls where the guy doesn't look offsides at all -- sometimes it happens when a guy is making a run around midfield, and it's not even a counter attack or anything -- there are TONS of guys in front of him. Am I missing something or does anyone else see this?

[Desnudo]

I think it's hard to tell with the size of the dots relative to the size of the pitch. So two guys that look even, may not be because the circle is bigger than the actual player size, if you follow me. It makes it hard to tell, I almost never complain about bad offides calls.

[AlexB]

how accurate is the AI? 1-1 tie, a goal late was taken away bc they said I was offsides. I know the offsides rule and he was clearly not OFFSIDES. I bitch and moan in a postgame and they touchlined me and said that it appeared that the ref got the call right. I'm like WTF.

I know, managers just can't say anything now without getting into trouble ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6140922.stm

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It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems



Mike Newell


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IBOX --><!-- S SF -->Luton manager Mike Newell could be in trouble with the Football Association after launching a scathing attack on women officials.
Newell was furious that assistant referee Amy Rayner failed to award his side a penalty in the 3-2 loss to QPR.
He said: "She shouldn't be here. I know that sounds sexist but I am sexist. This is not park football, so what are women doing here?"
The FA has confirmed it will be examining Newell's remarks. <!-- E SF -->
A spokesman said: "All we can say at the moment is that we will be investigating when we have discovered what was said."
Newell was incensed that Rayner and referee Andy D'Urso failed to award his side a spot-kick when QPR defender Marcus Bignot tangled with Carlos Edwards in the penalty box.
"It is tokenism - for the politically-correct idiots," said Newell.
"We have a problem in this country with political correctness and bringing women into the game is not the way to improve refereeing and officialdom.
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English football needs more Amy Rayners.



Referees' chief Neale Barry


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IBOX -->"It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems."

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[MikeVick7]

I've wondered about offsides, too. I thought I knew the rule, but I see offsides calls where the guy doesn't look offsides at all -- sometimes it happens when a guy is making a run around midfield, and it's not even a counter attack or anything -- there are TONS of guys in front of him. Am I missing something or does anyone else see this?
I think the game gets the offsides call wrong A LOT. It almost happens every game. One of my guys will get a pass and there sometimes will be 2-3 defenders between him and the goal and the player that the pass goes to will just be standing still. It's very weird.

[Honolulu_Blue]

What's the status with the patch? Do those bugs still exist? Is there a fix shortly on the way? Has Pumpy started his career? I don't think I'll start my career until Pumpy does.

I need answers.

[MikeVick7]

I wish I played this game in so much detail that I would even notice that there is a bug, cause I never do. Maybe I do notice some but I just shrug them off cause they are never a big deal to me. I don't know??

[DaddyTorgo]

WOOO!!

post patch (with the point-penalty down to 9) got Juve promoted to Serie A by winning Serie B the first season, and in my 2nd season finished 4th (by 6 points) in Serie A. My most impactful signings have been my Brazilian wonderkids who I first discovered on '06 (names witheld to protect "spoilers") unless peopel want them. But they are a fantastic midfield duo and I have them locked up. Got myself back into the CL too, so I should be back in the cash nice and quick!

[Desnudo]

What's the status with the patch? Do those bugs still exist? Is there a fix shortly on the way? Has Pumpy started his career? I don't think I'll start my career until Pumpy does.

I need answers.

I haven't had a problem with either of the bugs, played a few seasons.

[path12]

I haven't had a problem with either of the bugs, played a few seasons.

I haven't noticed anything either, but I am just a few months in and haven't tried to resign many of my own players yet.

[Desnudo]

I've been negotiating and haven't had any problems with the player release bug.

[Pumpy Tudors]

What's the status with the patch? Do those bugs still exist? Is there a fix shortly on the way? Has Pumpy started his career? I don't think I'll start my career until Pumpy does.

I need answers.
I started mine last night, baby. I hope the bugs don't bite me, but I couldn't wait any longer. :)

[bhlloy]

Well, I finally got the bug last night after a while of not seeing it. Playing in Scottish League 2, trying to get some of my better young guys to agree to full time deals (part-time just doesn't give enough training time) and my 2 starting wingers had their contracts expire. I'm bidding for them again, but I'm up against some bigger teams so I guess they are gone.

I can understand why SI are turning so many customers off to be honest. EHM release was completely botched and for some people at least is still unplayable past season 5 because a bug that was number 1 on the fix list wasn't fixed (note: this is not my personal experience but a lot of people are reporting this) Now FM which ironically was pretty playable for me pre-patch has a bug that is pretty close to a show stopper.

SI's response to this latest bug - promise a fix by "early this week" which we are still waiting for any update on, and a patronising post on the messageboards talking about a "workaround" for the bug which involves offering all your players exactly what they want and hoping they don't get greedy. Um, thanks Captain Obvious but a part of the fun of a sports sim is being able to negotiate. Plus when I'm managing a lower league team, being able to try and negotiate the lowest possible contract is pretty much a necessity for me.

I've been purchasing the soccer game since CM2 and was somewhat involved in the origins of the EHM freeware series and know Riz is a great guy, and also know that once the games are fully patched they will be the best games on the market so I will keep buying both until kingdom come, but I can definitely understand why a lot of people are getting really pissed off. And that is sad, because ultimately I think SI is going to lose customers next year on both their flagship games because of this crap.

[Desnudo]

Another big thing they need to look at is the breakaway conversion rate. My strikers, all with good composure are probably converting 1-2 out of every 10 clear 1v1s. If you want to keep the score low, fine, but don't show so many breakaways then.

[Galaril]

I am curious has anyone been playing as a National team manager? Has there been any improvement in managing an National team fulltime or is it similar to last year?

[bhlloy]

Another big thing they need to look at is the breakaway conversion rate. My strikers, all with good composure are probably converting 1-2 out of every 10 clear 1v1s. If you want to keep the score low, fine, but don't show so many breakaways then.

This has been around since the very beginning. If I remember rightly, in CM1 pretty much every chance was a breakaway and you would get your player rounding the keeper at least twice every game and 75% of the time he would score, but it sucked when he missed :) Oh, and it seemed like at least 1 goal would be disallowed every game when you needed it least... good times.

Anyway, I thought it was much better this year than the last couple, but it could probably still use some working on. You still don't see too many kind of situations where there are passes worked together around the edge of the area and then a shot from 18 yards, but then I have been playing direct style and with crappy teams so maybe that has something to do with it. Overall I think the 2D is definitely going in the right direction.

[Crapshoot]

Another big thing they need to look at is the breakaway conversion rate. My strikers, all with good composure are probably converting 1-2 out of every 10 clear 1v1s. If you want to keep the score low, fine, but don't show so many breakaways then.

I haven't bought this version, but that's bugged since the 2d field showed up - your players constantly have breakaways, but are always caught, by 35 year old defenders who make John Terry look speedy, or start running away from goal for no good reason - finishing skills be damned.

[Crapshoot]

Dola, I should read all previous posts.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I haven't had a problem with either of the bugs, played a few seasons.

I haven't noticed anything either, but I am just a few months in and haven't tried to resign many of my own players yet.

I've been negotiating and haven't had any problems with the player release bug.

I started mine last night, baby. I hope the bugs don't bite me, but I couldn't wait any longer. :)

The People have responded. Thanks, fellas.

My first FM career in about 2 years is about to begin!

[Marc Vaughan]

Another big thing they need to look at is the breakaway conversion rate. My strikers, all with good composure are probably converting 1-2 out of every 10 clear 1v1s. If you want to keep the score low, fine, but don't show so many breakaways then.
In real-life the conversion rate for one on ones with top strikers is around 35% over the course of a season. This sounds low because you remember the ones they score, not the ones they miss.

This is also the case in the game, although obviously every player can have patches where all shots go in and others where they can't hit a barn door with a banjo.

PS> Cross conversion ratio's are even lower irl - only 30% of crosses from top players (eg. Beckham in his prime) will reach their desired player.

[Marc Vaughan]

PS> An updated patch is now available if you weren't aware.

[TazFTW]

PS> An updated patch is now available if you weren't aware.

Excellent.

[FrogMan]

PS> An updated patch is now available if you weren't aware.

Thanks for the info Marc. I went over to your boards, saw the thread by Marc Duffy about a new build but no download link anywhere in the four pages of the thread, at least none that looked legit.

Do I need to redownload the 80mb 7.0.1 patch or is there a smaller quick fix kind of update that you could link to?

Thanks in advance.

FM

[TazFTW]

Is the WWSM patch updated as well or do we have to wait?

[MikeVick7]

Is the WWSM patch updated as well or do we have to wait?
The WWSM patch is available in the downloads section. Mine's going really slowww at the moment though.

[bhlloy]

Very slow indeed... any idea on whether there is a mirror for the WWSM patch? I know the FM version is on Rapidshare and a couple of other sites, haven't been able to find WWSM (465.exe) anywhere else though.

SON OF A BITCH... connection with the server was reset 53mb in. I guess I will have to hold off until a mirror is up.

[dacman]

http://files.filefront.com/WSM_701_Updated_Build/;6319210;;/fileinfo.html

[bhlloy]

That link doesn't work for me for some reason. I'm thinking that the SI server will slow down a bit as the evening wears on so I'll try in an hour or so.

[dacman]

That link doesn't work for me for some reason...

Do you get a window with a "continue to filefront" link? If so, click on that and it'll take you to it.

If not, try this one: http://hosted.filefront.com/cutterschoice and look for the "WSM updated build" in the list toward the bottom.

[bhlloy]

No, I keep getting one of two error messages, either the file wasn't found on the server or I have more than one connection active (which I don't)

I could probably sort it out with a reboot, but I have other stuff going on.

EDIT - now getting a page cannot be displayed every time. SI is still under 15kb/s also

[Desnudo]

In real-life the conversion rate for one on ones with top strikers is around 35% over the course of a season. This sounds low because you remember the ones they score, not the ones they miss.

This is also the case in the game, although obviously every player can have patches where all shots go in and others where they can't hit a barn door with a banjo.

PS> Cross conversion ratio's are even lower irl - only 30% of crosses from top players (eg. Beckham in his prime) will reach their desired player.

Thanks for the reply, Marc. So 1/3 or so. I really believe this needs looking at. I don't think it's that accurate and not just for my own team.

[flere-imsaho]

OK, two questions, one simple and one not so:

1. Could someone give me a link to the FM 2007 Vaughan Hints & Tips document, if there is one? Which leads into my next question....

2. As a result, undoubtedly, of my stellar management of Scottish part-timers Queen's Park (taken them to the First Division), I've been offered and accepted the job managing the U.S. National Team. Once I took control, however, the learning curve was pretty high. What's with all the staff? Should I hire more staff (i.e. Physio, Scout, Coaches), like I would for a club team? Does it matter? Can I generally only get Americans for this?

Also, how do people handle the National Pool? What is, in fact, the National Pool? How do people go about finding players for the team, etc....

Any hints & tips on being a National Manager would sure be appreciated. :D

[flere-imsaho]

One more quick question: when I send my scout out to scout Scotland, he does so, for about a month, and then finishes, but doesn't tell me. So, I have to manually have him restart his search. Is there any way to get him to indefinitely scout a nation/region? Is this, maybe, a cost-saving measure for my small, small club?

[Passacaglia]

One more quick question: when I send my scout out to scout Scotland, he does so, for about a month, and then finishes, but doesn't tell me. So, I have to manually have him restart his search. Is there any way to get him to indefinitely scout a nation/region? Is this, maybe, a cost-saving measure for my small, small club?

When you send him out, the default choice (in the upper right corner) is 1 month. If you change it to "not set" then he goes out until you change his assignment.

[Marc Vaughan]

1. Could someone give me a link to the FM 2007 Vaughan Hints & Tips document, if there is one? Which leads into my next question....
There isn't one out yet I'm afraid - I'm planning on getting around to releasing one just as soon as I stop spinning in circles ;)

(currently I'm working on an editor for the PSP version, monitoring the boards for PC patch feedback and assessing if anything new is required and also some other stuff (hush hush ;) ) so I simply haven't had time to finish it off yet.)

[Miller Time]

There isn't one out yet I'm afraid - I'm planning on getting around to releasing one just as soon as I stop spinning in circles ;)

(currently I'm working on an editor for the PSP version, monitoring the boards for PC patch feedback and assessing if anything new is required and also some other stuff (hush hush ;) ) so I simply haven't had time to finish it off yet.)

Any chance we are going to get an editor for the digital download version also? I never realized how much I used the editor to adjust rosters and view hidden attributes, especially when deciding on a new team. Thanks!!

[Crapshoot]

Any chance we are going to get an editor for the digital download version also? I never realized how much I used the editor to adjust rosters and view hidden attributes, especially when deciding on a new team. Thanks!!

Yes please. I'm about convinced to buy this game Marc (despite intending to wait till 2008), but a couple of questions. One, will the utilities that the community creates be useable to WWSM users? I recall that some of the save-game editors, to take one example, simply did not work with WWSM 2005. Similarly, is there a "language" option so that I don't get stuck with "soccer" and "field" and what not - ie, for English, as opposed to American? :D

Lastly, is it preferable for you guys (in terms of the cut that you get) that we buy it from SEGA direct download or via the Amazon's of the world?

[daedalus]

This is also the case in the game, although obviously every player can have patches where all shots go in and others where they can't hit a barn door with a banjo.Also known as playing for f'n Arsenal this year.

No, no. I'm not bitter at ALL. Why would you think THAT?!?

[MikeVick7]

Similarly, is there a "language" option so that I don't get stuck with "soccer" and "field" and what not - ie, for English, as opposed to American?
This is actually located in preferences this year. You can choose between American English, English and Spanish.

[Marc Vaughan]

Yes please. I'm about convinced to buy this game Marc (despite intending to wait till 2008), but a couple of questions. One, will the utilities that the community creates be useable to WWSM users? I recall that some of the save-game editors, to take one example, simply did not work with WWSM 2005. Similarly, is there a "language" option so that I don't get stuck with "soccer" and "field" and what not - ie, for English, as opposed to American? :D

Lastly, is it preferable for you guys (in terms of the cut that you get) that we buy it from SEGA direct download or via the Amazon's of the world?

Utilities/add-ons normally work fine for WSM - when they don't its normally as simple as them looking for an exe called 'FM' instead of WSM and a work-around is normally possible (please note however that most utilities aren't created by SI and therefore the support is somewhat dependant on third-parties).

As far as purchasing goes - either Amazon or DD is great, main thing is to show a real presence in America as that will (hopefully) help us actually get into stores there properly one day.

[daedalus]

Wrong version, I know, but does anyone know of an editor for '06? I have some broken players that I need to fix up and, sans editor, I can't.

[PraetorianX]

When you send him out, the default choice (in the upper right corner) is 1 month. If you change it to "not set" then he goes out until you change his assignment.

Ummm, thats not in '07 for some odd reason. At least, not in MY version of WSM '07. Which annoyed me quite a bit, but I think my current system of scouting is working pretty well for me so, oh well.

[BYU 14]

The downloads on SIgames are always so horrendously slow, damn it gets annoying.

Does anybody have a link to a mirror for the full version of WSM 2007, the links below are only for the patch?

[flere-imsaho]

Thanks for the update Marc. I'll wait patiently. :)

[MikeVick7]

Hey Marc - In the last two versions of the game, whenever you make a "quick" tactic change during the game, the crowd noise always drops off. Is this a problem that is currently being looked at?

[SackAttack]

Wrong version, I know, but does anyone know of an editor for '06? I have some broken players that I need to fix up and, sans editor, I can't.

I thought '06 got an editor at some point.

My version of '07 has one, but it's pretty rudimentary and actually eats more system resources than the game itself does, oddly.

[daedalus]

I thought '06 got an editor at some point.

My version of '07 has one, but it's pretty rudimentary and actually eats more system resources than the game itself does, oddly.

Comes with database editor. I need a save game editor, though. Although there is no roster limit, the game, in fact, kinda breaks around 130. Loaned out players becomes ghosts-like, on neither team yet on both. Only hurt a few times when they were very talented. But we grooved on.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Hey Marc - In the last two versions of the game, whenever you make a "quick" tactic change during the game, the crowd noise always drops off. Is this a problem that is currently being looked at?
I know that FrogMan and I have brought this up several times since last year, but there's never really been any response at all. I hate to sound nasty, but this seems like a problem that SI doesn't even care to acknowledge, much less attempt to fix.

[MikeVick7]

I know that FrogMan and I have brought this up several times since last year, but there's never really been any response at all. I hate to sound nasty, but this seems like a problem that SI doesn't even care to acknowledge, much less attempt to fix.
Yeah, I know this was brought up last year as well. I guess I'm working under the premise of throw enough stuff against the wall... :)

[Sweed]

I have v2006 (my first version and I still have plenty to learn) and want to try before making a decision whether to update or maybe wait a year. Is the WWSM try and buy only available for download from SI's site? I was going to try it today but it d'loads at SI's usual speed which will take anywhere from 12 to 24 hours on my broadband connection. Any mirrors out there?

Does it have UK english as a language option?

Also did SI end up going with elicense (please no DR)?

If not, I see it is only $25 from amazon so I could go that way if I decide to buy.

Thanks.

[MikeVick7]

I have v2006 (my first version and I still have plenty to learn) and want to try before making a decision whether to update or maybe wait a year. Is the WWSM try and buy only available for download from SI's site? I was going to try it today but it d'loads at SI's usual speed which will take anywhere from 12 to 24 hours on my broadband connection. Any mirrors out there?They did when it was first released, not sure if they do anymore.

Does it have UK english as a language option?Yes, it's in preferences this year.

Also did SI end up going with elicense (please no DR)?Yes, it's elicense this year.

[AlexB]

Hey Marc - In the last two versions of the game, whenever you make a "quick" tactic change during the game, the crowd noise always drops off. Is this a problem that is currently being looked at?

Not belittling the problem, but I take it you're aware that if you hit pause and then play, the sound comes back?

Hopefully they'll get round to fixing it, but it may take some time - they've only just in the last patch fixed the defensive FK instructions changing themselves, and this was first reported on FM2005.

[Sweed]

They did when it was first released, not sure if they do anymore.

Yes, it's in preferences this year.

Yes, it's elicense this year.

Thanks for the info.

[MikeVick7]

Not belittling the problem, but I take it you're aware that if you hit pause and then play, the sound comes back?

Hopefully they'll get round to fixing it, but it may take some time - they've only just in the last patch fixed the defensive FK instructions changing themselves, and this was first reported on FM2005.
Oh yeah, fully aware of it. Just getting tired of having to do that everytime.

[Crapshoot]

Hopefully they'll get round to fixing it, but it may take some time - they've only just in the last patch fixed the defensive FK instructions changing themselves, and this was first reported on FM2005.

Thank you! I've been bitching about the defensive FK instructions in the FM 2006 thread forever, and no one else seemed to notice! :D

[Scholes]

For those that are looking for something a little different, I've created a European Super League using the Scottish League as the template. I also did this for FM 2005 and 06, but the editor (for some reason) is not quite as sophisticated as those versions were. So, to ensure that teams still had reserve squads, all the teams nationalites have been switched to Scottish. The Champions League and UEFA Cup still exist.

As for what teams went where, I placed them based on current and historical performance, and tried to mix the teams up a bit and include some from some of the smaller Euro Leagues. I test ran it a few times to see if anyone was too dominant or too terrible and switched things accordingly.

I've tinkered with league and club reputations and have given all teams in the euro league some starting cash, and made it even within the leagues. (ex. Premier League teams all have 35 million pounds transfer funds, Platinum all have 20 million, etc.) All teams in the Euro League's debts have also been erased, as the Scottish Leagues payouts aren't very lucrative. In fact you'll notice little things switched around in a lot of places, like feeder clubs, player stats, etc. Nothing major though.

I've ran it on Holiday until 2017 and nothing went wrong so I'm making it available to you. Please let me know of any questions you have in this thread.

To install, extract the db to your C:\Documents and Settings\user name\My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2007\db folder and select the "EuroLeague2" database when starting a new game. Select the Scottish Leagues and any other league you wish to model and get on with it. Enjoy!

Download+Screenshots (http://files.filefront.com/Euro_League2rar/;6332945;;/fileinfo.html)