3ric's FOF2k4 Viewer

[sabotai]

Can be downloaded here (http://www.irregardless-productions.com/3ricview.htm)

Just follow the instructions on the website (a full 4 steps) and you're set to watch the play-by-plays.

[MJ4H]

Nice layout :)

[Darkiller]

link is dead ?

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Darkiller
link is dead ?

working for me.

[sabotai]

it's working fine for me...

try going to just http://www.irregardless-productions.com

And try to find your way to the page linked above.

[dolf34]

I can't download it. Says file not found.

[Darkiller]

Error 404 - File Not Found

[Easy Mac]

download works, but winzip says it isnt a valid archive.

[Darkiller]

ok now it works for me...funny link.
once every three tries. great work !!

[sabotai]

When I uploaded it, Dreamweaver crashed on me (and XP forgot to tell me...weird), that's why you got the invalid archive. It's working now

[Ben E Lou]

Adding link...


This sticky thread is gonna be an UNBELIEVABLE source of information. Thanks guys!!!

[McSweeny]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Adding link...


This sticky thread is gonna be an UNBELIEVABLE source of information. Thanks guys!!!

i've been thinking the same thing. Great work SkyDog! And of course, many thanks to all those who have contributed

[3ric]

Thanks Sab for hosting! The page looks great!

[Alf]

Nice work 3ric !

[Mike D]

EDITED FOR DATED INFORMATION

[MizzouRah]

See, things such as these would really add to the game, imo. :) Ok, so I like pretty.

Nice work.


Todd

[3ric]

A couple of things I forgot:
The helmets are easily replaced with other pictures (like logos) if you have a fictional league.

Team colors are editable in the "fof_teams.col" file, the format is:
city name, logo name, team abbreviation, RGB values for colors (three numbers for the first color, three for the second color).

The file "default.txt" contains the starting path to the log files.

Also, thanks to MattJones4Heisman, who did the original TCY Viewer, on which this utility is based.

[gstelmack]

Just wanted to say we've finally got our multiplayer league rolling, and this has added a ton to the immersion factor. Thanks!

[MJ4H]

Originally posted by 3ric

Also, thanks to MattJones4Heisman, who did the original TCY Viewer, on which this utility is based.

Glad its being put to good use.

[maximus]

3ric, that looks really nice. Good job.

[DougW]

3ric ... Awesome utility

was wondering though. Do you know how I can resize my logos without screwing them up? I am in an online league, all fictional teams, and our logos don't fit the utility right .. I got the border coloring down right, and then put the logos in .. but when I resize (using Paint) it screws up the coloring. Thanks

[cwilloughby]

Nice Util!

[3ric]

Originally posted by DougW
3ric ... Awesome utility

was wondering though. Do you know how I can resize my logos without screwing them up? I am in an online league, all fictional teams, and our logos don't fit the utility right .. I got the border coloring down right, and then put the logos in .. but when I resize (using Paint) it screws up the coloring. Thanks

Maybe it's best to just create a new image with the correct size and paste in the logo centralized, without resizing?

[DougW]

nm, I have a utility that does it just fine. Thanks ...

One more thing. I've been testing to see how all the helmets and colors are looking; It seems that the utility is not closing when I close it. Yes I don't see it anymore on my screen, but if I <cntrl alt del> there is a ton of programs called view ( I noticed this when I couldn't work any more, and the comp. told me I was low on resource). I had to manual close them all again from cntl alt del. Any ideas

Sorry if I sound picky about an awesome program, thought you'd want to know

doug

[MJ4H]

Thats probably my fault. I was never good at ending programs in Visual Basic. Since this app is based on my code, Im sure the fault is mine. If anyone knows how to add cleaner exit code, maybe they could help.

[cwilloughby]

Add an End command in the unload event of the main form.

[3ric]

I'll take a look at it. The program exits properly when you use the "Exit" command in the "File" menu though.

<strike>Edit:
OK, here's the updated exe file:
fof2k4viewer.exe

Right-click on the link and save to disk and replace the old executable.</strike>

I'll probably do a new, improved, version with this fix included some time, since so many people are using it now. This "patch" unfortunately introduced another problem... :o

[DougW]

Hmm. I must have gotten to this link to late. It's not working, Using the Exit command works just great though. Thanks a lot ! :)

[FargoFreez aka fof playa]

http://fidosoft.com/FOF

[DougW]

Thanks Fargo

[gstelmack]

I'll probably do a new, improved, version with this fix included some time, since so many people are using it now. This "patch" unfortunately introduced another problem... :o
So now that I've got Extractor 2.0 out, I figured it was time to prod 3ric with a little guilt ( :D ) and ask "so when is the improved version coming out"?

I use this to watch every single game played in our office league, but have a couple of bugs that get in the way (although it's still plenty usable even with these):

The aforementioned Exit problems (I can never remember to go to the menu, the "X" is just too enticing...)
The viewer will show "first down!" even if there's a penalty that negates a first down.
If a score is negated due to penalty, it still shows up in the score lists at the bottom, and it takes a few plays for the scoreboard to correct itself.
I've had a handful of games (like one per season) where the ball always stays on one end of the field. It dutifully marches up to the 50 yard line, then starts marching back. If you haven't seen this, I can send along a game log next time it happens.

[TLK]

This little tool provides me so much joy after a long night of work..... except when The Flats get their asses kicked... as in week 1...

[3ric]

So now that I've got Extractor 2.0 out, I figured it was time to prod 3ric with a little guilt ( :D ) and ask "so when is the improved version coming out"?

I use this to watch every single game played in our office league, but have a couple of bugs that get in the way (although it's still plenty usable even with these):

The aforementioned Exit problems (I can never remember to go to the menu, the "X" is just too enticing...)
The viewer will show "first down!" even if there's a penalty that negates a first down.
If a score is negated due to penalty, it still shows up in the score lists at the bottom, and it takes a few plays for the scoreboard to correct itself.
I've had a handful of games (like one per season) where the ball always stays on one end of the field. It dutifully marches up to the 50 yard line, then starts marching back. If you haven't seen this, I can send along a game log next time it happens.


Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff. I've taken stabs at solving these problems before, so they are all "known" bugs. I'll also fix a stupid error with the *.col file (the one that holds the color codes), it contains all the IHOF, CFL and NFL teams, which wasn't supposed to happen. I had a PM conversation recently with a user that had problems because of that.

[sovereignstar]

Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff. I've taken stabs at solving these problems before, so they are all "known" bugs. I'll also fix a stupid error with the *.col file (the one that holds the color codes), it contains all the IHOF, CFL and NFL teams, which wasn't supposed to happen. I had a PM conversation recently with a user that had problems because of that.
Hey! You're not Fido!!! http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[gstelmack]

Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff.
Weeee! I really do use this a ton as it adds quite a bit to game immersion and helps me keep an eye on my team in multiplayer leagues. Any tweaks are greatly appreciated.

[Alf]

Just starting using it today to view last weeek Bordeaux thomping of North Plainfield. Gret work !

2 questions :

1/ How do I change the teams colors (Bordeaux Burgundy & Marine blue make it difficult to read) ?

2/ How do I upload helmet images ?

[3ric]

In the fof_teams.col file, the line for Bordeaux contains six numbers which are the two colors in hexadecimal RGB format. (example: 255, 255, 255 is white and 0,0,0 is black.) Pick two colors that look nice and enter those for your team instead and save the file.

Helmet pictures: I can upload the ones I have and post the URL, just a second...

[3ric]

Update about the new version: I have PM:ed gstelmack with the link and he's tested it a bit but there's still a bug around with TD's getting called back by penalties... I'll try to fix it before my vacation in July...

[3ric]

Bump.

A new version is up: FOF2k4viewer.zip (http://www.lissvall.net/FOF2k4viewer.zip) Fixes some bugs, but nothing major.

[sachmo71]

Bump.

A new version is up: FOF2k4viewer.zip (http://www.lissvall.net/FOF2k4viewer.zip) Fixes some bugs, but nothing major.

WhooT! Thanks, 3ric!

[gstelmack]

Thanks! Downloading now, will try it out some more once we get out of our offseason.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Great news !

One question : will it overwrite everything, including the personalized fof-teams.col file ?

[gstelmack]

On my machine it asked about any files that were newer, including default.txt. So I doubt it, but back yours up just in case.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Greg, it did the same for me. Cool !

[3ric]

Yeah, don't overwrite default.txt and fof_teams.col if you want to keep the personal settings. You can just extract the .exe file and replace the old manually if you want.

[Alf]

Me changing the game speed doesn't change anything at all. It always runs on ultra slow mode.

[3ric]

That's a new one, I've never heard of anyone else with that problem...?

[Alf]

It already happened with the previous version. I am running Win XP.

[3ric]

The only thing I can think of as a cause to the problem is that the timer component (which is in an external file) has been accidentally deleted or overwritten. But that don't sound possible considering you had that problem before as well... :confused:

[gstelmack]

I just checked quickly, and moving the slider is definitely changing the viewer speed for me. XP SP1.

[jeff061]

Love the util.

However... :). IT was working fine for me. I upgraded to the newer version and wheneven i choose a game i get 2 error messages "Visitor logo file missing \logos\.gif" and "Visitor logo file missing \logos\.gif". As far as i can tell the logos are there in the view\logos directory.

It opens up but the color is messed up and the text doesn't show up when one of the teams have the ball(the pregames info shows up). Any ideas? Or a link to the old version that worked for me :)?

[jeff061]

Ok. Redownloaded and reinstalled, worked this time, whatever. Off to watch my eNFL game ;).

[3ric]

Ahem.

Yet another small update: FOF2k4viewer.zip (http://www.lissvall.net/FOF2k4viewer.zip)

Fixes for
- the problem with fumble returns for touchdowns that launches the viewer into warp speed.
- turnover of possession on an onside kick didn't result in colours changing in the commentary.
- the "half-court" display is caused by an abbreviation that doesn't match with the fof_teams.col file.

[MJ4H]

Ahem.

Yet another small update: FOF2k4viewer.zip (http://www.lissvall.net/FOF2k4viewer.zip)

Fixes for
- the problem with fumble returns for touchdowns that launches the viewer into warp speed.
- turnover of possession on an onside kick didn't result in colours changing in the commentary.
- the "half-court" display is caused by an abbreviation that doesn't match with the fof_teams.col file.

I dont know how you manage to fix bugs with that code. Im impressed :) Have you rewritten major chunks of it?

[jeff061]

- the problem with fumble returns for touchdowns that launches the viewer into warp speed.

Excellent, that one was killing me in a couple games.

[3ric]

I dont know how you manage to fix bugs with that code. Im impressed :) Have you rewritten major chunks of it?
Yes, but not in one major overhaul, more of little changes everywhere. It must be more than two years now I've been tweaking it.

[MJ4H]

Good time to apologize then?

:)

[MizzouRah]

Me changing the game speed doesn't change anything at all. It always runs on ultra slow mode.

Change your colors from Highest (32 bit) to Medium (16 bit).

Right click --> properties --> settings tab --> color quality

Worked for me!


Todd

[jbmagic]

wow todd

almost 5 months later to reply :)

better late than never :)

lol

[MizzouRah]

wow todd

almost 5 months later to reply :)

better late than never :)

lol

:)

Well, it's the first game of the HFL league and it's been awhile since I've used this wonderful program. It was doing the same thing for me, so I fixed it.

Todd

[MizzouRah]

- the "half-court" display is caused by an abbreviation that doesn't match with the fof_teams.col file.


I'm still having this issue though. :(


Todd

[3ric]

I'm still having this issue though. :(


Todd
It's happening to me too sometimes, but then all I have to do is checking that the cities' abbreviations match the ones used in the configurations file, and correcting the one that doesn't match. Not sure why this doesn't help you though.

[MizzouRah]

It's happening to me too sometimes, but then all I have to do is checking that the cities' abbreviations match the ones used in the configurations file, and correcting the one that doesn't match. Not sure why this doesn't help you though.

This makes sense, I using this to view HFL games and I'm sure some of the cities abbreviations have changed. Do I change these via configuration file?

Thanks,

Todd

[gstelmack]

fof_teams.col. Here's the one I just edited for the default NFL cities:

Arizona, ari, ARI, 204, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255
Atlanta, atl, ATL, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255
Baltimore, bal, BAL, 0, 0, 102, 255, 204, 0
Buffalo, buf, BUF, 0, 0, 204, 255, 0, 0
Carolina, car, CAR, 0, 153, 255, 0, 0, 0
Chicago, chi, CHI, 0, 0, 102, 255, 102, 0
Cincinnati, cin, CIN, 255, 102, 0, 0, 0, 0
Cleveland, cle, CLE, 153, 51, 0, 255, 102, 0
Dallas, dal, DAL, 204, 204, 204, 0, 102, 204
Denver, den, DEN, 0, 51, 153, 204, 51, 0
Detroit, det, DET, 0, 153, 255, 204, 204, 204
Green Bay, gb, GBY, 0, 135, 79, 208, 183, 47
Houston, hou, HOU, 47, 40, 159, 255, 80, 15
Indianapolis, ind, IND, 0, 72, 127, 255, 255, 255
Jacksonville, jac, JAX, 0, 0, 0, 0, 153, 204
Kansas City, kc, KCY, 255, 0, 51, 255, 255, 255
Miami, mia, MIA, 0, 153, 153, 153, 51, 0
Minnesota, min, MIN, 0, 40, 64, 255, 215, 0
New England, ne, NED, 49, 25, 107, 192, 192, 192
New Orleans, no, NOS, 32, 32, 32, 191, 159, 0
New York, nyg, NYK, 0, 51, 102, 255, 255, 255
New Jersey, nyj, NJY, 255, 255, 255, 0, 102, 0
Oakland, oak, OAK, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255
Philadelphia, phi, PHI, 0, 102, 102, 255, 255, 255
Pittsburgh, pit, PIT, 0, 0, 0, 255, 204, 0
San Diego, sd, SDO, 63, 64, 127, 255, 255, 255
Seattle, sea, SEA, 0, 72, 127, 255, 255, 255
San Francisco, sf, SFO, 204, 0, 51, 255, 204, 51
St. Louis, stl, STL, 21, 41, 90, 156, 140, 82
Tampa Bay, tb, TBY, 204, 204, 153, 153, 0, 0
Tennessee, ten, TEN, 0, 0, 102, 102, 204, 255
Washington, was, WAS, 255, 204, 0, 121, 0, 46

[fantastic flying froggies]

3ric, do you have any plans on updating your viewer for the expanded logs? Make it full window mode maybe?...

[3ric]

I've been thinking about an option to filter out the extended formation lines, sometimes I don't want to see them, just the commentary.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I've been thinking about an option to filter out the extended formation lines, sometimes I don't want to see them, just the commentary.
Sounds like a good plan to me.

[MrBigglesworth]

I've been thinking about an option to filter out the extended formation lines, sometimes I don't want to see them, just the commentary.
I just downloaded the viewer to watch a game on a computer away from home, but it isn't giving me the extended formation lines, just the down and distance and result of the play. Is there an option somewhere to get all the info?

EDIT: Nevermind, found it :)

[kingfc22]

Just downloaded the viewer and I'm getting RTE 76 "path not found"

Anyone have any ideas on what I need to do?

[Ben E Lou]

Link in first post broken. Anyone have this?

[fantastic flying froggies]

Link in first post broken. Anyone have this?

there you go:

http://gaillardpatrick.free.fr/FOF_Utilities/FOF2k4viewer.zip

[Ben E Lou]

there you go:

http://gaillardpatrick.free.fr/FOF_Utilities/FOF2k4viewer.zip
Got it. Thanks!

[marcmoustache]

I get a runtime error '76' on trying to start the viewer - any ideas?